Pretty much. Sony even had a super obscure game like octodad on the stage of their e3 conference.
Edge #256: Why PS4 is your next console (Shots fired, post-DRM 180)
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Pretty much. Sony even had a super obscure game like octodad on the stage of their e3 conference.
Duxxy3
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Yup, I made my decision right after the conference. It was the correct choice then and it still remains the correct choice.
Sir Abacus
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When it was released it was still the cheapest Blu-Ray device you could buy and it was rapidly upgraded every few months at a $499 and then $399 price point.
The Real Napsta
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Anyone want to explain that titanfall joke to me?
Yet with all this bad-mouthing I still bet the Xbox One beats out the PS4 initially (definitely in NA). "Xbox" has become the old "Playstation" and the old "Nintendo." It is the term used by non-hardcore to describe video games. It is the go-to platform for those who can't name a single exclusive. That mindshare holds weight and will be evident in next-gen.
I say this as a day one, pre-order ready, PS4 advocate.
I say this as a day one, pre-order ready, PS4 advocate.
It was written all over the walls.
LiveFromKyoto
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Seriously. So many journos come across like "haha, but of course I don't want to damage my fragile relationship with MS PR, so let's pretend it's all equal and Sony's just as bad, remember the time they made something that was expensive? Maybe? Let's wait and see, heh...uhh..."
It's so transparent that they'd rather not risk losing access, especially if MS marketing money means they still come out ahead this gen, so they won't just come out and state the obvious, that one company is transparently shittier than the other.
LiveFromKyoto
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RooMHM said:
Serious question: given the thread topic, what on earth else should /would it be? What else do you think that cover headline means?
All depends on how accurate the intial pre order allotment news has been since they went on pre order. If it WAS accurate then even if the XBONe sells out for 3 months it might still not beat the PS4 because they look to have a larger supply.
I said before and I'll say again. After 12 months on the market I see the US maybe evens, but PS4 in the lead in every other individual country.
As you said, it used to be Nintendo, then it was PlayStation and then it was Xbox . No reason it can't change again.
By that logic when Playstation was synonymous with meaning video games with the PS2, the PS3 should have sold better despite the higher price point.
Sir Abacus
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It's the game that XB1 fanboys think, after playing the screenshots and the teaser vids, is so good that it will save the system from its disastrous initial missteps and make the XB1 a must buy. This is despite the fact that it'll be available on PC. Thereby ensuring that "Titanfall" is a satirical remark that will be driven into the ground.
WhyIsTheRumGone
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Depends where you live. I live in Romania ( well technically I live in the UK, but I go to Romania on all holidays), and there are no other consoles, people say "you bought a new game? For what ps3?" People don't even have Nintendo's or DS's. Just PS3's PSP's and the rare, extremely rare fat Xbox (that is hacked for playing pirated games).com
Let me get this straight, you still think MS can reign supreme nextgen given they had.
Bad PR leading up to unveiling
A bad unveiling
Got dominated conference wise at E3
Higher price point
Weaker hardware
Internet polls not in their favor
Launching around the same time as the PS4
Not launching in Japan until late 2014
etc
Unless you've forgotten
The Xbox 360 launched a year ahead of the PS3
Had great PR
Had the momentum of Kinect
COD, Halo, Gears of War, timed exclusives and DLCs
Dominated in the US and UK
$199 price point for years now
Easier to develope for
More marketing
Yet Sony still caught up to them in sales worldwide.
Sure I can see the US sticking with MS but they won't win next gen they didn't win when their competition was at their weakest there is no chance they will win when their competition is at their strongest in the last 7 years.
so you're saying only people with a pedigree, can make good games...And I am the fool?
As for killer instinct, positive feedbacks from people who played it, are more important than someone saying it will suck, on a forum. dead rising, if the game is good, I dont care if its different from the others. 2 was really bland, compared to the first.
A bit ridiculous to say the bold when the system isn't even out yet.
digoutyoursoul
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Xbox/Playstation fan here but PS4 really is a easy choice for the first next gen purchase imo .
360/PS3/PS4 for the next couple of years for my gaming I think
360/PS3/PS4 for the next couple of years for my gaming I think
famousmortimer
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There's plenty more exclusives coming to the ps4. They didn't blow their load at e3. TGS and Gamescom will be huge.
I assume the same is true of MS, though.
I assume the same is true of MS, though.
History shows that there is very little brand loyalty in console gaming. In 'murica its gone: NES-Genesis-PS1-PS2-360(Wii?)-? And before that it went atari-commodore-amiga.
I've seen it all, eaten crow a couple times, played inferior consoles at times (atari 800xl when commodore 64 was god, sega master system when NES was god), but right now sony has the global mindshare by a good margin.
Majmun
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I just can't think of a scenario where the X1 will beat the Ps4 in sales. The $100 price difference is huge for the average CoD and Gta gamer. And those games made the X360 huge in NA. Sony lost gamers to Ms thanks to their price disadvantage with the Ps3. But they have a big chance to win them back thanks to the price advantage with the Ps4..
I think it's become pretty clear now that people hostile to the XB1 are making the most noise about Titanfall.
Barkley's Justice
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This aint a sprint ahki. It's going to be a 7+ year battle.
Backfoggen
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Maybe if we'll get some more exclusives announcements at TGS or Gamescom
LiveFromKyoto
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No, it's a statement from Major Nelson, when being pressed about Xbone issues he stammered about "have you SEEN TItanfall?"
Sir Abacus
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You're right. Microsoft have made no disastrous mistakes pre-launch. That's why the gaming community almost universally stood up with one voice and said "enough of your DRM shit".
Sir Abacus
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I stand corrected.
-COOLIO-
The Everyman
No more ballsy articles journalists. Go back to writing glowing previews only!
Crimson_Gold
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I think Gamescom will be about even, but TGS could, and likely will go in Sony's favor.
xbox brand is stronger than 7 years ago. IF sony recovered from that trainwreck, I dont see why microsoft cant. If they want, they can really turn the table, but they'll have to spend a lot of money and I dont take that as granted.
They're reasoning would be power/indie games/price? It gonna be nice to revisit this 6 months after launch.
SiteSeer
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ps4 also will have user replaceable hdd. a big plus since a lot of games will require installs. 500 is good to get started but i know we'll need bigger drives by mid gen, and i know i won't pay an extra 20% for a proprietary hdd from ms.
Miles Quaritch
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That's really not much of an achievement.
I wish I knew what caused the drop in quality with EDGE, they were my go to magazine for years but ever since 2011, it's been on a downward spiral that shows no signs of slowing any time soon.
It can't just be the redesign, I can only assume Future weren't happy that they had one semi respectable magazine left and set out to destroy it as they did with Gamesmaster, OXM, ONM, etc.
Crimson_Gold
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I believe the X1 allows you to use an external HDD
I'm busy, you guys keep on keeping it real though
SFxT had a ton positive feedback too.
Word. This meme has somehow managed to become more obnoxious than the original statement. It's remarkable in a way.
Imp the Dimp
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Not really liking EDGE's sensationalist approach at journalism.
Pound_lb003
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Wow. Welcome to the Microsoft blacklist Edge.
Don't expect RYSE in the post.
Don't expect RYSE in the post.
AstroNut325
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I need to read the article but I do agree with the stance given on the cover. Unless you're a diehard MS fan I can't see why you would want the Xbone. Especially at launch. In a few years after a price drop or two... maybe.
The PS4 has it beat in just about every regard.
The PS4 has it beat in just about every regard.
Wuthering_Heights
Banned
Edge breathing a sigh of relief.
That list is artificially boosting one side over the other. Microsoft requires indies to publish through them or find a publisher (meaning a lot of them end up being Microsoft published). Sony gets a lot of exclusives by default simply by actually being relevant in the Japanese market. It'll be near impossible to say until well after launch which system will actually have more exclusives in the first year. Also it doesn't include Planetside 2 or DCUO for some reason.
Wow, that cover is pretty damning. Considering how "regarded" Edge is here, I assume it's pretty respected in Europe? If so, that's certainly not good for MS if they're forfeiting JP, and put all that effort into getting into Euroland this past gen just to get wiped out.
And it's "post 180"? Yikes...
I'm curious if MS is going to fight on for a few years, or if they lose fast that they start readying to pull the plug early on the Xbone like the OG Xbox, and get new hardware out there ahead of time.
And it's "post 180"? Yikes...
I'm curious if MS is going to fight on for a few years, or if they lose fast that they start readying to pull the plug early on the Xbone like the OG Xbox, and get new hardware out there ahead of time.
No matter what side of the fence you're on or between, this as been a historical console war. Goddamn that Sony E3 press conference just dug in that knife. Even with the 180 we are looking at a $100 (!!! That's fucking huge and YES it matters) difference. A focus on more affordable ways to accommodate game creators (self publish, F2P) and consumers (PS+). I think they realize that costs for making games have gotten too high. You can easily make compelling experiences with half the budgets that are thrown into some of these projects. The digital age is here, let's face it, that's where it's all going. Day 1 digital stuff has been a huge success for them. Sony had to realize this is the future. People that have access to the internet are more likely to buy digital! It's really not that hard.
Not only did Microsoft waste time, money and precious resources to concoct a draconian system, they failed to see the writing on the wall! Digital was always coming! They didn't have to make themselves look like asses. I think they seriously underestimated the titan that is this inter-connected network with streams of information from hundreds of millions of people all over the world 24 hours a day. Youtube, Twitter, Facebook... not to mention all the sites dedicated to this industry specifically... what a fucking blunder on MS.
Not only did Microsoft waste time, money and precious resources to concoct a draconian system, they failed to see the writing on the wall! Digital was always coming! They didn't have to make themselves look like asses. I think they seriously underestimated the titan that is this inter-connected network with streams of information from hundreds of millions of people all over the world 24 hours a day. Youtube, Twitter, Facebook... not to mention all the sites dedicated to this industry specifically... what a fucking blunder on MS.
BRocknRolla
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Ah, nvm
I would like to say Octodad: The Dadliest Catch, but it's part of the PS+ subscription and wouldn't really count.
You would say that SquiddyCracker...
Dat spin. I think you could have included the last line as an asterisk behind a spoiler in another post to complete the effect.
I'm sorry -- I use the word "initial" in this case as meaning you know, when the system is actually out; it's true beginning.
crazygambit
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I really don't understand this argument. The last time we had a truly dominant console it was the PS2, which happens to have one of the best libraries of all time. Instead of developers wasting their time porting stuff to less successful consoles they used all their time to optimize for a specific platform and the games were better for it.
Everyone understands the market can support only 1 movie format at a time, hence NO ONE wanted HDDVD and Bluray to coexist. That's because people instinctively understood that competition is NOT always best for the consumer. Especially when economies of scale are present, consolidation can be better for consumers.
Maybe we don't need a market with 3 consoles, where 2 are essentially carbon copies of one another. Even if there was only 1 console it still would have to compete with PCs, so it's not like it would be a monopoly.
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