Edge #256: Why PS4 is your next console (Shots fired, post-DRM 180)

Well, there could be a Director's Cut of DR3 with a different Publisher. Don't know what kind of deal MS made.

Did EA Ever include any sort of version of ME1 outside of the Comic? Im guessing it is the same deal they had with Bioware at the time, or for Gears for that matter.
 
Maybe you should cite specific parts of the article that point out how they aren't being a neutral source.

As of now Sony's console is:
1. More powerful according to all leaks and fragmented information given by MS, using apples to apples numbers directly from the manufacturer of both system's GPUs.

2. $100 cheaper at launch.

3. Smaller in design and not from a product line with the single worst launch defect the industry has seen.

4. With an updated controller that most who have used it are in love with.

5. Comes with a headset.

6. Hides fewer services behind it's pay wall, actually gives users content back in return for the pay wall via PS+.

7. Has studios like Sucker Punch, Naughty Dog, Polyphony Digital, etc. all working exclusively on it.

I mean, that's just the facts
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While MS doesn't deserve very harsh verbal beatings now that they've backpedalled, I can't say I feel sorry for them to get it anyway. Such policies should have never been confirmed to begin with.

Hopefully the constant stream of negative press like this will serve as a reminder to them to never try to pull that stuff again.
 
Possibly yes. However I still believe that undo slack is given when Sony without announcing it to the public implemented the infamous Rootkit DRM in music CDs. Sure it was Sony BGM but still a part of Sony.

So I guess by your reasoning we should assume that MS is actually going to spy on us with the Kinect camera and send it to the U.S. Gov't., right? I mean, it's not like other divisions of Microsoft haven't spied on consumers at the request of the government before, right?

Or that maybe the Xbox One's entire OS, DRM service, etc. were all a thinly veiled attempt to establish hegemonic control over their audience, forcing them to only use MS selected applications and services, trapping them in the hedge maze they maintain as their walled garden economy? Microsoft has never been an Explorer in those kinds of anti-trust practices, have they?

I mean, if the previous sins of a different division within a multinational company are somehow meant to be predictive as to what other divisions in said multinational, with completely different executive leadership, will choose to do then lets not limit the stones we throw to the ones Sony has put before us. I'm not sure if there is any other company in the world who has as many anti-consumer skeletons in their closet as Microsoft.
 
MS is the publisher of Dead Rising 3.

I believe MS is literally just the publisher.. From what I had read on it, IF Capcom decided to publish it themselves for other systems they could (presumably after an exclusive period, and only a modified/enhanced version). Basically like Mass Effect.

edit - It looks like Ninja Gaiden II was also published by MS. And from everything we know.. Minecraft (which is published by MS) is only exclusive for an unknown period of time.
 
when you a title like this u know that you are going to lose lots of readers in the future..or maybe they know.. who read their articles is already a sony follower
i mean edge dont know how they think to explain why that is our future console but with this title..who will go to read that article is an hardcore gamer or from sony or from ms
if is sony they go to have a good laugh on the shit edge will put over the x1...if is a xbox fanboy just to hate more edge after a title like this..and then spread the word on internet "edge is just pro sony"

one thing is clear from tomorrow EDGE will never be considerated a impartial site/magazine again at least from xbox users

(but im pretty sure they know and want this)
 
If I had to criticize anything about Sony it would be the branding. I know that ties in with the marketing but I find it to be the worst of the three IMO. I like Nintendo's efforts but they have much less to work with and simply need to spend more. Microsoft is quite good at this although you would never know it becuase their public mouthpeices have ruined everything as of late. Maybe they are just the best of an inept bunch?

My criticism of Sony's efforts does not lay with the effort as that is quite good. You could argue that Nintendo is actually worse if you count budgets IMO. However, it is just that the branding looks tired and worn out. It seems too much like an evolution of the PS3 days and that will always pale in comparison to their glory days. It doesn't seem fresh nor does it remind me of their good years. It just seems like a polished up version of what they used to revamp the PS3 line when it was failing.

On a side note, has anyone spotted the Sony logo anywhere on the PS4 or its controller? I imagine the Sony name has taken a hit lately (outside of gaming, just look at their electronics sales) and they want to leave it off there for that reason.
 
On a side note, has anyone spotted the Sony logo anywhere on the PS4 or its controller? I imagine the Sony name has taken a hit lately (outside of gaming, just look at their electronics sales) and they want to leave it off there for that reason.

Is the Sony logo on the PS3 anywhere other than the sticker that has the part and serial number?
 
Really a patent for a method to control Physical copies of software is not relevant at all when you are contemplating releasing a console?? Come the f on..

Why patent a method of physical DRM if you are not contemplating using it??

So your competition can't use it? This happens all the time in the tech world.
 
when you write article like this u know that you are going to lose lots of readers..or maybe they know.. who read their articles is already a sony follower

but one thing is clear from tomorrow EDGE will never be considerated a impartial site/magazine again at least from xbox users

(but im pretty sure they know and want this)

Then those Xbox users are idiots.

When did saying that 2>1 suddenly mean you're pushing an angle? I'm not a defender of EDGE. I think they have a very tangible UK and Nintendo bias in how they hand out review scores. But generally they actually think through their editorials, which can't be said for literally a damn thing posted on IGN, Gamespot, or most of the other major games media outlets.

The fact that their thoughtful accounting of the facts has make the PS4 not just the favorite in their eyes but the prohibitive favorite thanks in no small part to MS' own failures isn't something they should sugar coat.

If you look at the cover and presume that there is nothing inside that validates their claim (even if it still might look hyperbolic) then we've found the real source of bias in the equation here.
 
Judging by the launch lineup, I really don't see why this would be my console of choice over the Xbox one. Apart from the price point, the One is more appealing hands down.The power will be noticeable down the road, but I'll buy it like next year after the One.
 
The xbox one launch line up is alot more interesting than the ps4. Priject spark and dead rising along woth forza and ryse to give me months of enjoyment.

The tv features and kinect look to be something I use everyday .

If I just wanted to play ports this fall I would stay with the 360/pc
 
Judging by the launch lineup, I really don't see why this would be my console of choice over the Xbox one. Apart from the price point, the One is more appealing hands down.The power will be noticeable down the road, but I'll buy it like next year after the One.

Most people who buy Edge own a PC.
 
Then those Xbox users are idiots.

When did saying that 2>1 suddenly mean you're pushing an angle? I'm not a defender of EDGE. I think they have a very tangible UK and Nintendo bias in how they hand out review scores. But generally they actually think through their editorials, which can't be said for literally a damn thing posted on IGN, Gamespot, or most of the other major games media outlets.

The fact that their thoughtful accounting of the facts has make the PS4 not just the favorite in their eyes but the prohibitive favorite thanks in no small part to MS' own failures isn't something they should sugar coat.

If you look at the cover and presume that there is nothing inside that validates their claim (even if it still might look hyperbolic) then we've found the real source of bias in the equation here.


theres no drm

ms showed more games than sony ms showed more OS of the console..

the graphics was on par (i think the best graphic was on quantum break)

ok the price is higher for the xbox

but really seen the E3 theres no reason why the ps4 should be the ppl console...be serious cmon

i could understand if they would not change the drm ...i would be on EDGE side..but no ..in this way this is just a biased title

(also if sony is starting the gen ...better than ms eh!)
 
Xbox One dropping that nonsense will guarantee that this gen will be competitive somewhere along the line. But at launch, there is barely a good reason to own the Xbox One over a PS4. With that said, it'll come down to the games, and whether or not MS can get the price to be competitive within the next 2-3yrs. Being $100 more expensive is not competitive.

Besides that, the fanboy dribble should stop, although I vastly prefer the PS4 at the moment. People will find a reason to own one console over the other (some- will own even both), there is no "only right console" to own this generation.
 
I'm really just interested in the games. I mean, I'm buying both, but why should I buy a ps4 over the One at launch?

Just wait tell Gamecon and TGS. You will see.

The question is, did Microsoft pull out all the stops at E3 while Sony held back to keep momentum?

Give it time.

Lack of First Party titles points to Sony holding back...
 
Everytime people talk about Xbone exclusives, I have no idea what they mean? Forza/Halo worth that much?

Halo would be for me, but Forza (Prologue)? Yikes. Also some Rare game not made by Rare and Ryse, lol. What else? Sony's line-up isn't looking grand either (fuck you Evolution for leaving the mud for the tarmac), but at least there's Infamous on the horizon after launch.

Have you seen Titanfall?

Tired memes aside... that ain't an exclusive, nor is it a launch game.
 
Everytime people talk about Xbone exclusives, I have no idea what they mean? Forza/Halo worth that much?

Well, to be honest, MS showed some exciting new IP's during the conference. Below looks great, and the new title from Insomniac looks pretty awesome also.

But I somehow get the feeling that MS blowed their load too soon. Most of the games shown looked far from finished and will probably be late 2014 or even 2015 releases...

I'm sure Sony will show or even release some exciting new Ps4 games before, say, Quantum Break gets released.
 
Judging by the launch lineup, I really don't see why this would be my console of choice over the Xbox one. Apart from the price point, the One is more appealing hands down.

Because to many people someone actually believing the Xbox One's launch lineup isn't abject trash is rather shocking.

But I can see why you're hyped. I mean when you have a Kinect to controller conversion like Ryse from the guys who made Crysis 3 how can you resist? I'm sure Inafune didn't have much involvement in what made the Dead Rising franchise good. Capcouver is where the real talent lies, right? And who could possibly doubt Double Helix handling Killer Instinct? I mean, you can't make that many bad games in a row right? The coin has to land heads up eventually, that's just statistics.

The consumer addiction to brand names and willful ignorance of pedigree is the number one crime consumers perpetrate against this industry. When you value the name on the box more than the studio who made it you're encouraging the major publishers to keep sending more homogenized, milked dry iterations in the same franchises year after year.
 
theres no drm

ms showed more games than sony ms showed more OS of the console..

the graphics was on par (i think the best graphic was on quantum break)

ok the price is higher for the xbox

but really seen the E3 theres no reason why the ps4 should be the ppl console...be serious cmon

i could understand if they would not change the drm ...i would be on EDGE side..but no ..in this way this is just a biased title

How about not wanting to support a company that thought they could get away with being anticonsumer? What if I thought Ryse looked like ass, I don't care about Halo or Forza? What if I've owned an Xbox 360 since launch and have felt like a second hand citizen since kinect was introduced? What if I feel that hiding day and date demos, services such as netflix behind a paywall, is a shitty practice?

Why would I buy an XB1 then?
 
Because to many people someone actually believing the Xbox One's launch lineup isn't abject trash is rather shocking.

But I can see why you're hyped. I mean when you have a Kinect to controller conversion like Ryse from the guys who made Crysis 3 how can you resist? I'm sure Inafune didn't have much involvement in what made the Dead Rising franchise good. Capcouver is where the real talent lies, right? And who could possibly doubt Double Helix handling Killer Instinct? I mean, you can't make that many bad games in a row right? The coin has to land heads up eventually, that's just statistics.

The consumer addiction to brand names and willful ignorance of pedigree is the number one crime consumers perpetrate against this industry. When you value the name on the box more than the studio who made it you're encouraging the major publishers to keep sending more homogenized, milked dry iterations in the same franchises year after year.
you can do the same nitpicking bullshit to any launch lineup.
 
Im a huge PS fanboy myself... but this kind of cover for a magazine covering all consoles is just wrong. But i guess you americans dont really care about objective journalism..

"objective journalism" nice, but in many cases it is usually just code word for people trying to hide behind the deception that there usually isn't a right or wrong side to every story. It's like the old joke that if there was a story about a rape, CNN would bring on two people, one who argued rape was OK, the other who said rape was wrong, and the journalist job saying "we report, you decide." It's cowardly journalism meant to try to offend nobody whilst being wrong for everybody. Sometimes you do need to take a side.

Up until the DRM-180, there was no such thing as "objective journalism" on the story of PS4 vs. Xbox One. The only legitimate choice was PS4, and it'd be a straight up disservice to your readership to try to pretend otherwise. There weren't two balanced sides to this issue. It is important that every single person knew precisely how egregious the attacks on consumer rights were with Microsoft's approach, and why the only sensible option was to forcibly refuse Microsoft's right to destroy the industry.
 
Judging by the launch lineup, I really don't see why this would be my console of choice over the Xbox one. Apart from the price point, the One is more appealing hands down.The power will be noticeable down the road, but I'll buy it like next year after the One.

Pretty much this. Going by launch lineup and fixed policy by MS it seems like a fairly easy choice, for me at least. Down the road I know that Sony will bring it with first party titles so I will get one at that point. I wish Infamous Second Son was a launch title...
 
"objective journalism" nice, but in many cases it is usually just code word for people trying to hide behind the deception that there usually isn't a right or wrong side to every story. It's like the old joke that if there was a story about a rape, CNN would bring on two people, one who argued rape was OK, the other who said rape was wrong, and the journalist job saying "we report, you decide." It's cowardly journalism meant to try to offend nobody whilst being wrong for everybody. Sometimes you do need to take a side.

Up until the DRM-180, there was no such thing as "objective journalism" on the story of PS4 vs. Xbox One. The only legitimate choice was PS4, and it'd be a straight up disservice to your readership to try to pretend otherwise. There weren't two balanced sides to this issue. It is important that every single person knew precisely how egregious the attacks on consumer rights were with Microsoft's approach, and why the only sensible option was to forcibly refuse Microsoft's right to destroy the industry.

Xbone is rape. Got it
 
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