UFC 162: Silva vs. Weidman |OT| God or Fraud
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lets not forget that Maia hurt him a few times when Anderson was taunting him and that's when Silva just started circling.
If I told you that the Anderson vs Weidman fight would be striking only, and I want to bet you 1 million dollars that Anderson would win, would you take that bet? If you happen to take it and won, would you say it's more because of luck or sound betting on your part?
I just watched the fight again and after the first takedown Weidman tried maybe 2 more takedowns and the rest of the time was spent striking and following Anderson around, sometimes with his hands very low. That to me sounds like someone who was lucky to survive fighting like that.
BadAss2961
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He threw a combination of like 4 punches while coming forward with no answer from Anderson -- the 4th being the one at the end that landed.
Anderson went too far in trying to embarrass Weidman and paid for it.
Weidman's oddball backhand right set up the pretty ordinary looking shot that knocked Silver into mandalay bay valhalla. The spider may have been the one clowning around but he's the one who got clowned in the end. After the first round he knew he was in some shit. Got tooled on the ground and then got his jawpiece tapped standing.
Yeah I really think the backhand threw off his timing. It's actually something I would see Silva doing just exploiting a fighter with a little distraction like that.
And I thought Silva threw a decent amount of strikes and counters, just almost none of the were landing. In terms of Weidman being flummoxed or confused I think people give way too much credit to the taunting as actually being evidence of winning a fight, even if you've done nothing of note. People talk a ton about Solva clowning for obvious reasons, but I haven't heard much about Weidman himself clowning back in the second round. He was kind of illustrating there that the clowning is worthless and anyone can do it; it's not some evidence of domination.
I won't hate on a fighter for clowning because it makes fights super entertaining but yeah you deserve every potshot you get when the result is such an embarrassing KO. He doesn't get bonus points or a non-loss for being KO'd while clowning. Quite the opposite. That's part of the risk you take. Can't have your cake and eat it too.
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What was GSP special news after the event.
Impeccable
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"Told you so."
polyh3dron
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polyh3dron
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So it's basically like how King Mo got KO'd
TheKaeptain
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Maklershed
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Silva looks like an elementary school soccer player at half time in that picture.
Yeah, I think that backhand was the key. Most guys fall into Silva's trap and just throw a 1-2. Canderson probably expected a left there which left him wide open for the KO shot.
polyh3dron
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Yeah there was a fix alright, because no one wanted to see Anderson vs GSP/JBJ.
Horsemama1956
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To me it looked like Silva just didn't give a shit.
polyh3dron
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yep it was such an ingenious plan by the UFC.
Now "Motivated Anderson" can join the ranks of "Chuck with that look in his eye" and "Healthy Shogun" as the greatest hypothetical MMA fighters.
Can Crusher
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The fight gets sadder the more times I watch it. Weidman stopped going for the takedowns, but that's all Silva managed.
Weidman picked him apart, Silva couldn't slip for shit. Kept getting tagged, which gave Weidman all the confidence he needed.
Weidman picked him apart, Silva couldn't slip for shit. Kept getting tagged, which gave Weidman all the confidence he needed.
polyh3dron
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and "Motivated BJ"
TheKaeptain
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joeygreco1985
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UFC Facebook.
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Can Crusher
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Silva's problem is age.
MMA gaf was all on Dos Cantos nuts 2nd time against Cain, and we all know how that went. Then they were all on Hunt's nuts... and that didn't work out either.
MMA gaf was all on Dos Cantos nuts 2nd time against Cain, and we all know how that went. Then they were all on Hunt's nuts... and that didn't work out either.
Pristine_Condition
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LOL.
You have to go back to 2000 and throw in the Arona fight in RINGS? The one with Fedor squeaking out the controversial decision because Arona thought ground control was part of the scoring?
Regardless, again, we see Fedor fan posting victories ending in 2005. Great. What about those four+ years where he was padding his record with freakshows and cans and running away from the best competition? I've got no problem with saying Fedor posted some great wins pre-2006 vs. Nog. and CroCop. The fraud comes in when the guy does nothing but pad his stats for 4+ years fighting cans in a second-tier fed and enters the Fabricio Werdum fight being called GOAT and "The Last Emperor" and bullshit like that. The fraud really comes into play when people try to compare what Anderson Silva has done--fighting EVERYBODY that shows up to fight, in the toughest fighting promotion on the planet--with no 4+ year record of padding.
And LOL @ "Silva: Henderson, belfort and griffin maybe"
Let's see...
Rich Franklin: UFC Champion
Travis Lutter: Won the "All-star" 4th season of The Ultimate Fighter. Beating out guys like Pete Sell, Scott Smith, Patrick Côté, Edwin DeWees, and Jorge Rivera to earn the title shot.
Nate Marquardt: Three-time King of Pancrase, Perennial "Top Ten" guy in whatever weightclass he'd been in for the last decade or so.
Rich Franklin: (Again) Former UFC Champ
Dan Henderson: PRIDE Middleweight and Welterweight Champion
Patrick Côté: Perennial "Top Ten" ranked guy
Thales Leites: Ultimate Fighter Finalist. When he fought Silva was on a five-win streak including names like Sell, Marquardt, and McFedries.
Forrest Griffin: Ultimate Fighter winner, Former UFC Light Heavyweight Champ
And then a bunch of guys who live in the "Top Ten":
Maia
Sonnen (twice)
Belfort
Okami
Sonnen (twice)
Belfort
Okami
I mean, come on. It's pretty obvious you have to bash your head against a brick wall until you recieve brain damage to think Fedor's shamefully post-2005-padded record compares with The Spider's record over the last 6+ years in the UFC. And Dana White is 100% right to object to anyone trying to compare the two.
JakOfTheShadows
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That is only because they lube it up with vasoline first.
polyh3dron
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His BJJ is Michael Jordan-esque.
KingItachi
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Just finished watching the fight. His trolling backfired but, I do wanna see a rematch even thought he he no keen on one.
Jean Valjean
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Anderson was outclassed.
PaleFolklore
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Lol holy shit I finally got around to watching the Silva Vs. Weidman fight. So glad I was able to watch that without getting spoiled. Absolutely hilarious. I'd love to see Chaels reaction watching that.
If you're arguing strictly on reord Anderson isn't the GOAT either, it'd be either GSP or Jones. Unlike Anderson who has wins like lutter, Irvin, cote, leites and to an extent Maia in his win streak GSP and Jones have fought the true cream of the crop in deeper divisions. Just look at GSP's resume there's like one gimme fight on there and it's because at that point Gsp had just about cleaned out the division.
And a problem I have with a lot of the fedor hating is the retroactivity of it all. People love to stick their thumbs at the Sylvia and arlovski wins but wont acknowledge that those guys were ranked in the top 3 at the time. Who else was out there until say 2010 when brock et al emerged?
Calling someone the GOAT is such a subjective exercise anyway. Maybe people really liked the fact that fedor went right after much bigger guys rather thn cut down 10-15 pounds and still dick around/wrestle people to death. I don't think people arguing a guy fighting much bigger guys and staying essentially unbeaten for almost 10 years and fighting almost everybody until the end of his career is the GOAT is exactly an indefensible position.
The ufc propaganda machine really did a number on Fedor because if you think about it Chuck had a very similar career where the best guys were at a time at another promotion but anyone who claims he's the best 205 of all time is unlikely to draw the spirited rebuttals as arguments against Fedor.
And ftr Anderson is my GOAT too.
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Spider setting up for the rematch pay out?
polyh3dron
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It's typical Serpentine Silver posturing, he does it with every fight.
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José Aldo
polyh3dron
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Excellent point, friend. When someone can begin an argument with "Ultimate Fighter finalist" and keep a straight face, you know the Dana White hype job has done it's work.
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