MrCookiepants
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The Owl thing looks like a nice addition. Clever use of the touchpad.
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New Killzone: Shadow Fall gameplay
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SirIgbyCeaser
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I wonder what guerrilla games has planned at gamescom.? Maybe the multiplayer finally.
This.
They should have done a different video. If you target the hardcore you shouldn't treat the potential player as someone completely dumb. But I have to disagree in one thing, the mechanics are great (or at least seem to be).
What should have been? Hard setting with a very skilled player, mixing good stealth action with free fire fights.
Not so hard, is it?
I find this second demo less impressive technically.. And some parts don't look exceptionally next gen to me, with some crappy rock models for example.
But the worse, i think, is that next gen games will suffer a lot from youtube compression
What's the point in seeing a 1080p feed with blurry parts all over it. The crisp aspect is totally gone.
But the worse, i think, is that next gen games will suffer a lot from youtube compression
What's the point in seeing a 1080p feed with blurry parts all over it. The crisp aspect is totally gone.Graphically, I find this contextually unimpressive. Regarding gameplay, I'm even less impressed. These are the guys who gave us this:
'last' gen. Shadow Fall doesn't look much better than the competition, frankly. The animations are re-used from Killzone 3, there's a strange blurring evident in even 1080p direct feed footage, where other games (like MGSV) look crisp ... I'm disappointed with this.
Hopefully the multiplayer will be interesting, but this feels less and less like a Killzone 4 everytime I see it.
'last' gen. Shadow Fall doesn't look much better than the competition, frankly. The animations are re-used from Killzone 3, there's a strange blurring evident in even 1080p direct feed footage, where other games (like MGSV) look crisp ... I'm disappointed with this.
Hopefully the multiplayer will be interesting, but this feels less and less like a Killzone 4 everytime I see it.
Man-is-Obsolete
Member
And allow people to download them. Right now Gamersyde has become our best friend.
Dictator93
Member
The sound for the fully automatic function on the main rifle sounds pretty lame actually.
The single shot high powered shot is great though.
shadowsdarknes
Member
It's like dejavu from Killzone 2.
Halo 3 best AI.
Killzone 2 worst AI.
Upon release Killzone 2 has great AI.
Zombie James
Banned
x264 is a free and open source H.264 encoder and it's the best available.
I've done plenty of testing using a shitload of different setting combinations and no amount of setup makes a difference to what YouTube gives you. They'll always re-compress everything down to the 3-5Mbit range using whatever shit encoder they use and that just isn't enough for fast-paced 1080p.
AllIsOneIsNone
Banned
Holding out to see if multiplayer has anything to offer. Footage looks pretty...boring. Then again I'm more of a multiplayer kind of guy in general. Single player fps' have to really hit the right note for me to gain interest.
Clinton514
Member
Not exactly new. I wish they'd show something a little more faster paced. I like the new Helghast voices.
This post is boring, always from the same people too.
It's such a night and day difference too between these shitty youtube videos and the uncompressed stuff we're lucky to get Gamersyde. I wish Sony and MS would wake up on this.
FunkyPajamas
Member
Come on. Killzone's AI is just not very engaging, that's a fact. We're not talking about Colonial Marines Zombie Xeno levels of stupid AI here, but there's not denying that KZ's AI is subpar.
Also, there's no need to bring Halo into the discussion.
Clinton514
Member
Re-used? Which animations?
FunkyPajamas said:
You have to be talking about Killzone on PS2? haha
Particularly noticeable are the knife kill animations.
Damn...
I was quite hyped for this game, even after seeing all the other vids, but this one really deflated my hype. The game looks gorgeous and i love the level sizes, but holy shit, i am not liking a few things i saw here.
1. The AI appeared dumb
2. The Voice Acting was cringe worthy
3. The gameplay looked boring
I don't know if it was because the person playing was bad, but there was absolutely no suspense or interest in the gameplay when watching this. I was more like "Yay..?". Hopefully they can tighten up the AI when the game ships, or perhaps this was on easy difficulty and not indicative of its "potential". I also feel like the way the helghast react to the OWL is really cheap, its like they are attracted to look at it as soon as the player sends it their way. Really hoping i enjoy this when i get it day one with the PS4.
I was quite hyped for this game, even after seeing all the other vids, but this one really deflated my hype. The game looks gorgeous and i love the level sizes, but holy shit, i am not liking a few things i saw here.
1. The AI appeared dumb
2. The Voice Acting was cringe worthy
3. The gameplay looked boring
I don't know if it was because the person playing was bad, but there was absolutely no suspense or interest in the gameplay when watching this. I was more like "Yay..?". Hopefully they can tighten up the AI when the game ships, or perhaps this was on easy difficulty and not indicative of its "potential". I also feel like the way the helghast react to the OWL is really cheap, its like they are attracted to look at it as soon as the player sends it their way. Really hoping i enjoy this when i get it day one with the PS4.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
To be fair, he did leave off the word "generic"
I think the term is beaten to death, the game looks just fine, and I can't believe people are still doubting the A.I. This is a demo, and almost everyone that's played it so far on footage is terrible. You want them to ramp up the A.I more for these people?
Giant Panda
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I don't know what some other people saw, but I think it looked great.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Just... no... Killzone 2 had the best A.I I've ever seen in a game. Sub-par? Have you ever played them?'
FunkyPajamas
Member
Killzone 2, actually.
I have. http://psnprofiles.com/trophies/45-Killzone-2/FunkyPajamas
Listen, this is not console fanboy stuff, I don't talk about things I haven't experienced. I have played the game. The AI is boring and not very engaging.
MDSLKTR
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The sound for the fully automatic function on the main rifle sounds pretty lame actually.
The single shot high powered shot is great though.
And just for that secondary function I'll be sure to keep that gun on me during the whole playtrough
I wish we could hear it in bullet time mode hnnngBomb-Threat
Banned
Looks ace... Just hope GG can balance everything out for a nice seamless experience..
SlipperyMoose
Member
I have to be honest this looked graphically good but nothing really interested or wowed me.
professor_t
Member
Yup. This is not a good way to showcase a graphics showcase.
That being said, I doubt it will bother most people, but the pop-in/draw-in really had a negative impact on the overall look of the game for me.
Lets see what the developers voted as the best AI
Hmm
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the Best Combat AI and the overall Best Game AI awards were won by the same studio--Guerrilla Games for Killzone 2.
Some might disagree with me, but I feel as though the Killzone series needs more exotic and exciting sci-fi weaponry/equipment to make it feel more interesting and unique. I see the potential behind this gameplay video, especially with the OWL and the open environments, but the core gameplay still appears to be same ol' same ol' as far as first-person shooters are concerned.
I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic about this title though, as we haven't seen a whole lot from this game yet.
I'm still remaining cautiously optimistic about this title though, as we haven't seen a whole lot from this game yet.
Krusenstern
Banned
Have you played Killzone 2? For me the AI appeared to be very good.
Betta Lines
Member
Killzone 2 wasn't a launch game. Making a launch game is haaaaaaard.
It's hard to believe that Shadow Fall is a generation leap from Killzone 2, and not in a good way.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
Interesting you mention that. Killzone 3 went in that exact direction, and I personally loved it. Every level at some point, they would give you an extremely awesome / powerful weapon. I thought it basically cemented that perfect FPS feel. I'm psyched to see secondary fire in Shadows fall
I'm hoping it'll lead to some amazing gameplay.
Clinton514
Member
It's hard to believe that Shadow Fall is a generation leap from Killzone 2, and not in a good way.
We've seen 2 environments so far and one was in the wooded area. Want to see some trees falling over? I admit it would be cool, but is it necessary?
Wishmaster92
Member
Yeah i agree. Release the uncompressed version. At least we got to hear the audio though.
shadowsdarknes
Member
I only brought Halo 3 into the discussion because it was in reference to an article than EGM wrote back in 2007.
But the AI is certainly not subpar. Much of the Gaf community thought Killzone 2's AI was a pleasant surprise after seeing gameplay demoes of the game on easy mode/god mode and seeing the EGM article bashing the AI.
It's hard to believe that Shadow Fall is a generation leap from Killzone 2, and not in a good way.
How so? Your GIF looks like shit compared to Shadow Fall.
GameSeeker
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The textures are actually excellent. GG noted in their tech talk that they are using 2k textures in Killzone:SF. The problem is the poor quality of the YouTube video, so they look much, much worse than they will when you see them on a big screen TV.
shinobi602
Member
Interesting. Killzone 2's AI is probably among the best in all the shooters I've played. Most KZ2 players I know agree too...
It's hard to believe that Shadow Fall is a generation leap from Killzone 2, and not in a good way.
Nope. Just no. Kaznan jungle for example was nowhere NEAR this jungle level...and that was one of my most favorite maps/levels.
ChronotriggerJM
Member
I thought it was simply firing from the OWL and sticking to whatever? I'm not sure I'm on the same page.
Also, the game looks like an FPS. Do you not like FPS? Which one looks exciting to you?