No, see, I think it's possible for the judicial system to be fucked and GZ to be a guy who killed a kid and should be punished for it. It's not an either/or.
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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty
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No, see, I think it's possible for the judicial system to be fucked and GZ to be a guy who killed a kid and should be punished for it. It's not an either/or.
gamethriller
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Mine too central Fl also.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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I wonder if Aaron Hernandez will get free too
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Jawbreaker
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Depends on what you mean by "provoke a fight." It also depends on state laws. If someone were following me personally, I would go into a store/back home/knock on someone's door for help and call the cops. If they stopped and asked me a question, I'd hear them out and ask them why they were following me. If, and only if, they attempted to attack me first, would I even think of striking them. Following someone is not against the law. It's really stupid and a shitty thing to do, but not against the law.
Given that, there was no evidence that Zimmerman attacked or tried to apprehend Trayvon first. It would also make no sense for Zimmerman to have attacked Trayvon first if he knew the police were on their way. He should have gone back to his car and stayed there, but he didn't. And he broke no laws by deciding to pursue if that's indeed what he did.
This wouldn't have happened if he wasn't an over zealous wanna be cop. He got off purely on lack of evidence.
what? no.
Kacho
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Yup
Uncle Rupee
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Any teens.
If a security guard tries to question or detain you, you don't get into a fist fight with them. That's just stupid and escalates the situation. Note, I don't think Zimmerman has any business carrying a loaded weapon (imo a tazer is probably all he should be legally able to carry as a community patrol, that is if America's gun laws weren't so retarded).
yankeeforever2
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Wow this topic is full of insanity.
Yeah I heard some bangs outside but not sure if it was fireworks.
Orlando here RIP
FamousLastX
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No they acknowledge it. That's how they support the defenses claim that Trayvon ran away to hide in a bush to jump out of the darkness and attack poor innocent George Zimmerman while he was just walking back to his vehicle.
....yeahhh
Portugeezer
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Don't make me follow you at night.
KINGofCRA5H
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My point exactly.
Dude Abides
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There you go. The best thing for a criminal defendant is to have dead witnesses.
I think manslaughter would have been appropriate.
charlequin
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The prosecution probably should have charged him solely with manslaughter and then laser-focused their argument to prove only that charge. The prosecutors absolutely bungled this case.
Whiteness is relevant only inasmuch as it lead other people to support Zimmerman's killing as a proxy for their own feelings about black youths. Blackness (and how it, in Zimmerman's mind and that of many commentators, marked Martin immediately as a violent criminal and a disposable life) is much more relevant to this situation.
I love how people selectively quote...just saying.
GZ should have gotten manslaughter at most. He is stupid and overreacted. However, based on Florida law and lack of evidence against him, technically, the right call was made. From a pure legal standpoint this makes sense. From a moral standpoint it's really fucked up. GZ should do some time for this. He needs to punished and repent. But hey, blame the Florida justice system
GZ should have gotten manslaughter at most. He is stupid and overreacted. However, based on Florida law and lack of evidence against him, technically, the right call was made. From a pure legal standpoint this makes sense. From a moral standpoint it's really fucked up. GZ should do some time for this. He needs to punished and repent. But hey, blame the Florida justice system
Sad but true.
I knew about that one already, the one I quoted sounded different.
Why, because not everyone agrees with your viewpoint on this case?
I personally can't believe that he isn't guilty of at least manslaughter. I just don't get it.
methane47
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lolol
that cat is ridiculous and the firing is warranted. He claims that he's fired because he stood up for truth. But in reality he was in it for himself the entire time.
There were some leaks about this case early this year specifically stuff from the phone. He was specifically questioned about the leak and denied it. Now when they found out it was INDEED him who leaked the data, it was clear that he could not be trusted.
jamesinclair
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Wow. Can you post a news story, I need to read about this.
After being ruled guilty for vehicular homicide by a jury, she was given a new trial and settled for a $200 fine.
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/...ywalking-death-charges-georgia_n_1432177.html
http://t4america.org/blog/2013/06/1...e-charge-dropped-but-the-real-crime-persists/
Really?
Metaphoreus
This is semantics, and nothing more
Self-defense is a justification for both crimes. So, even if the jury felt that manslaughter was proven, if they also felt that self-defense was not disproven, they had to return a not guilty verdict.
because people are musing over the fact that vick got 5 years for fighting dogs and zimmerman got to go home for killing a kid
Mattlikewhoa
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It will be for a while...
paparazzo
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Fair enough, but I haven't heard a single one go off since the 4th so I find it a little suspect. I also live in the South.
Yet is is perhaps the only thing that would highlight how racist and ass backwards the justice system is in the US or at least in Florida.
criesofthepast
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State department IT guy testified that the prosecution withheld evidence from the defense. Then he was fired. I think if Zimmerman was found guilty it would have been a bigger story maybe? I don't know everything about it to be honest maybe someone else can chime in.
freenudemacusers
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security guard?
Maninthemirror
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State prosecutors in florida are the weakest in the country it seems
Yes but people can certainly be mad at GZ for his oversealousness.
Zoramon089
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Please stop. He wasn't a security guard and your hypothetical analogous situation makes no sense
This man got his head bashed into concrete FOUR times:
This man CLAIMS to have had his head bashed into concrete 25 times:
What a shame.
Jesus can we stop the bullshit. I read that story and they kicked his skull in.
Portugeezer
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Perfectly legal.
Devolution
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Some of you should honestly take that firey passion and donate to the ACLU, SPLC or start volunteering at a nonprofit. I'm serious by the way, not trying to be snide.
Chiggs
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Uh....
Mammoth Jones
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It is.
devious.one
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