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Verdict reached in George Zimmerman case - Not Guilty

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The only reason why he is free is because of the stand your ground law right? If that law didn't exist, he would be behind bars?
 
This will blow over in a week.

Let some new Jordans come out.

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I'm on the other side though. I disagree with the verdict but felt the killing( which IS fucking unfortunate) was justified.

I'm sorry if I come off as an asshat to some of you here GAF. I'm a nice person. I just don't agree with some of you.

If you think shooting a killing an unarmed 17 year old. Kid is "justified" then you're the very definition of an Ass Hat.
 
The photo someone posted shows it was minor cuts / scratches. If it had been life-threatening, chances are good he would have been knocked unconscious and been unable to shoot the kid. The kind of fight you're talking about is like MMA style fighting, savage blows to the head. Travyon Martin is a scrawny teenager, I doubt he was capable of doing much damage.

Minor cuts/scratches on the cranium = Life threatening. The damage it takes to cause bruising on the skull would most likely shake up the brain. Savage blows to the head are always Life Threatening. I don't know what MMA has to do with this, I don't follow it, but they probably have provisions to not strike the head with much force. Every contact sport in the world does.

'Scrawny 17yr olds' can easily disable grown men if they are fast enough to strike the weak points/head.
 
I'm Hispanic/Latino and brown and I don't consider myself black... anyway maybe some should make a thread about it or something

My biological father who was never around is South American tho (white skin) and my biological sister with the same parents looks white. She took my fathers color.
 
African Americans are going to be very angry, but remember what their reaction was when OJ Simpson was acquitted?

One case versus a history of being disenfranchised and abused within the court system. Yeah the OJ verdict is the problem here. Keep in mind I think he's guilty and most black people I know do too.
 
This. I can't stand that come out of nowhere so I can dance on the grave of some kid bullshit.

The most sickening part of this ordeal from the beginning has been the way conservatives leapt to immediately find a way to justify killing an unarmed teenager. Technically this was a difficult case, but the mindset of people who actually tried to argue from the outset that that was a just thing made me feel pretty damn down on the state of my fellow humans.
 
This is another one of those white people understandings of race. Two Hispanic people interacting don't see each other as just Hispanics, they see white Hispanic, black Hispanic, Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, El Salvadorean, etc. You know why? Because they can tell the difference. The only shared camaraderie they have comes from dealing with all the people who can't.

Oh it's a white person understanding of race?

lol

And that's it for me.
 
If Zimmerman's story is true, then I think the killing was justified.

thats fine, even if you want to believe his multiple differing stories, thats fine. What people have a problem with is people coming in here basically GLAD he got off for killing a black kid.
 
Holy shit. I thought people were being a little hyperbolic with saying this verdict is revealing some true colors of people's perceptions on GAF but saying people will forget about it over some new shoes? I'm done.
 
This is another one of those white people understandings of race. Two Hispanic people interacting don't see each other as just Hispanics, they see white Hispanic, black Hispanic, Mexican, Cuban, Puerto Rican, El Salvadorean, etc. You know why? Because they can tell the difference. The only shared camaraderie they have comes from dealing with all the people who can't.

I'm glad you speak for all white people....
 
I never heard "talk shit, get hit" in my life.

And the phrase you should really have said was, "sticks and stones", because usually people are allowed to say whatever the hell they want and hitting them still isn't warranted. Even your parents would tell you this shit, and any decent parent would tell their own kids this as well... it's not cool to hit someone first. People are doing the whole "yeah, but" in this instance because it's a "white" dude killing a black "child".

Zimmerman shouldn't have followed him or even talked to him, but that doesn't give ANYONE the right to hit him first. Furthermore, If someone attacked me, broke me nose, and then cracked my skull into the pavement without me ever throwing a punch, and I thought they would continue I'd shoot their ass in a heartbeat.

And to all the internet tough guys claiming his injuries weren't that bad, get real. Some dude is on top of you, beating on you you'd be pissing your damn pants and most of you would be crying like little girls. It's easy to say they weren't that bad, and the man didn't fear for himself from the comfort of your computer chair.



I wouldn't attack him, break his nose and then slam his head into the ground.

Get real? I'm sorry, but by all accounts Zimmerman's injuries were minor. By witness testimony he was on top himself at one point, and by another witness account he started the confrontation.

So, sorry for thinking that it shouldn't be ok for a man to pull out a gun a shoot a child dead under those circumstances.

Also, the fact that Trayvon had no injuries prove the "beat down" wasn't severe...unless you REALLY believe that George Zimmerman, a bigger man with self defense training, did NOTHING to defend himself UNTIL it was time to shoot? Fuck outta here...
 
He didn't initiate the fist fight. And it's not cowardice it's called self preservation. Only a dumb ass would lay there and take a beating in the name of being a tough guy. Sorry, I have people that depend on me, I'm not going to die in the street because someone attacked me and I did nothing. People die all the time in fist fights. It's also not only natural that someone being followed would take the offensive, that's a cop out.

Like I said, pure cowardice. He has people that depend on him, friends, family, relatives etc too. You're just being selfish.

Something many Americans don't seem to get is that billions of fights happen every week that end in nothing more than pain, bruises, a bit of bleeding or a broken bone or two at worst. You are probably as likely to die in a plane crash as you are to die from a fight you might get in to at some point in your life. The fear and selfishness motivates people to essentially take another human life at the meagre insignificant risk of danger.

There is no way TM was realistically going to kill GZ. And based on Zimmerman's injuries, he certainly did not fight it out long enough to see if he was close to any real danger.

And you don't lay there and take it, you fight back or you lose. Simple. If Zimmerman never racially profiled TM, and followed him AGAINST the wishes of the police and AGAINST the rules of his neighbourhood watch, TM would be alive today, and that's the bottom line.

That's why other properly developed Western nations around the world have laws that strictly prohibit killing people, even in the name of self defence. Because human life is important. The idea is that everyone should be aware of that, even at their limits, and having laws like those of most developed countries inhibits that.
 
thats fine, even if you want to believe his multiple differing stories, thats fine. What people have a problem with is people coming in here basically GLAD he got off for killing a black kid.

I like how people are calling this a victory for the justice system. Justice was definitely not served. And I'm not talking about vengeful justice.

GZ had better lawyers, end of story.
 
Even if he did suffer a minor concussion (did he? he didn't go to hospital) it's not life-threatening and therefore excessive to shoot.

I think the conversation has moved past this a bit, but that is absolutely not what is going through somebodies mind when they're in a fight.

"Oh, this blow should only cause a minor concussion, I better lay off so as to give an equal beating".

Doesn't work like that.
 
How about not turning around and beating on someone who is merely following you? When you decide to turn around and 'get physical' as you euphemistically put it you are the aggressor and the other person is defending themselves... Is this supposed to condemn the Zimmerman verdict? Because it's actually the opposite.
Lol, you're full of shit if you believe that bs. A woman can mace the fuck out of a creep if he follows her to her car and nothing would legally happen to her even though she got physical first.
 
If your name is George and not Jorge, and your last name is Zimmerman and not Zamora or some shit, you are not hispanic. You're white with a South American mother, thanks.
 
Minor cuts/scratches on the cranium = Life threatening. The damage it takes to cause bruising on the skull would most likely shake up the brain. Savage blows to the head are always Life Threatening. I don't know what MMA has to do with this, I don't follow it, but they probably have provisions to not strike the head with much force. Every contact sport in the world does.

'Scrawny 17yr olds' can easily disable grown men if they are fast enough to strike the weak points/head.

You keep assuming TM started the fight and no one knows who did. It's all pure speculation because half of the people fighting are dead.
 
In response to all the death threats on Zimmerman now. I don't understand why a vague and joking facebook threat (ie Justin Carter http://kotaku.com/league-of-legends-player-jailed-after-terrorist-threat-610691101) merits arrest, but pictures of oneself holding a gun, threatening another human with their life, is totally fine?

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It's not fine. It's not fine at all.

These kinds of threats should be reported to the authorities and investigated to the fullest extent of the law. It's horrific, barbaric, and I legitimately fear for Mr. Zimmerman's life.
 
Saying "led to a scuffle" is so euphemistically glossing over the key points of the trial that it's intellectually dishonest. The jurors found there were reasonable grounds to believe that the fight was more than just a "scuffle". Merely following someone does not just "lead to" a scuffle like it's a natural progression, and the question of whether Martin or Zimmerman initiated the actual violence was also not settled beyond reasonable doubt.

What would've happened between Zimmerman and Trayvon if he hadn't followed him?

The answer is "nothing". We don't know what happened between them, just that there was a some kind of a fight. We don't know who threw the first punch, but we know zimmerman was following someone based on their appearance alone.

He followed Martin for no good reason and that led to his death. I get that there wasn't enough evidence to prove that beyond a doubt; setting that entire series of events into motion while carrying a deadly weapon should be punishable.

It should not be okay to kill an innocent child who was doing nothing wrong.That's what I'm saying; do you disagree with that? If not, then there's nothing to discuss about what I said. If you want to talk semantics and technicalities that allow killing an unarmed teen walking home from buying snacks, I'm sure someone out there is willing.
 
Why the fuck is someone following me? Why the fuck was Trayvon inherently suspicious? Merely following me SMH, I would definitely feel threatened if someone I don't know is following me, apparently profiling me based on, let's get real here, my race. The whole situation is fucking ridiculous, but yeah I'm not going to fuck with anyone following me from now on, because apparently I have no right to be suspicious of such a thing, but hey I'm just trying to not get fucking shot walking down the street.

Like I said in the other thread. It's a hell of a note that you can't even walk home from the store without some quick to the hip wannabe hero casing you out and following you while fucking armed. God forbid feeling threatened by that.

George is not the police, therefore, he should have paid the price for acting like he was and getting an unarmed, innocent teen killed in the process of trying to stop some crime that never happened. End of story.
 
Holy shit at some (most) of these posts. I think most of the comments are pretty much a way of blowing off steam...but let's not start attacking/devouring each other.

It's also disgusting that a lot of you are screaming for Zimmerman's head. Was he in the wrong that night? Absolutely. He was tried by the justice system and (beyond my understanding) was found not guilty. I'm not defending him, but two wrongs don't make a right- Screaming for his head and begging for street justice against him isn't going to bring that poor kid back. So someone goes out and kills Zimmerman now- ok, so now we've destroyed his family. What good has that done? I understand the outrage, but let's TRY to be a little rational here. Fate/Karma will get him in the end, ten fold.
 
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