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[Soler]

This, as well as the case of Marissa Alexander, are prime examples of how fucked up our so called "legal system" is. It's truly unbelievable that in 2013, a scumbag like Zimmerman walks while Marissa gets 20 years. My sole hope is that the outrage felt by those who have watched the trial can impact change in the future, when the old racist schmucks (who write laws and hand down verdicts) die out.

As I said before
BS she fired at her husband
She very much tried to shoot the husband
There's full evidence of it no doubt about
Hell they even gave her a 3 year plea deal and she refused

 

[DY_nasty]

Because the want vengeance not justice. And they don't care what that means on a large scale as long as they get to personally feel better.

Tell me this. Is wanting this:

People are upset that you can stalk someone in the middle of the night, get into a confrontation based on nothing, shoot them, and get away with it.

All fluff aside, that's what happened. And that's pretty hard to deal with.

To be against the law wanting vengeance?

Its not. It's beyond disingenuous to say it is to. Kinda makes you sound like a... like a...

edit:

I can agree that "stand your ground" laws are problematic. It just seemed people would be very happy if he was guilty even if it is the very law they disagree with.

There are a bunch of stupid laws.

I think you can agree with that. And I'm pretty sure you know what avenue that discussion would take as well.

 

[Nowise10]

Bad post

 

[Devolution]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone.

Have you been reading the thread? Like at all? Or do you see profiling as some totally nonracist thing people do?

 

[akira28]

it's not worth it.

some of them even have prepared notes.

 

[Lysander518]

Maybe that's what they're actually doing and you're being insanely ignorant.

Apparently I'm not making my point well enough. Don't have pride in yourself because of your race. Be proud of yourself because of what you've actually accomplished. That's all I'm trying to say. I don't know why everyone thinks that is so terrible. I'll probably just get a bunch of jpegs thrown at me instead of an actual argument though.

 

[DY_nasty]

As I said before
BS she fired at her husband
She very much tried to shoot the husband
There's full evidence of it no doubt about
Hell they even gave her a 3 year plea deal and she refused

Warning shots.

She was absolutely confident in her theory of self-defense. She wasn't fully aware of the beauty of stand your ground laws. She didn't have people across the country sending her money for a quality legal team.

20 years. For her version of self defense.

 

[cdyhybrid]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

Your avatar is perfect.

Apparently I'm not making my point well enough. Don't have pride in yourself because of your race. Be proud of yourself because of what you've actually accomplished. That's all I'm trying to say. I don't know why everyone thinks that is so terrible. I'll probably just get a bunch of jpegs thrown at me instead of an actual argument though.

Would being successful as a member of a minority group, despite having to overcome obstacles the majority group does not face, count as something to be proud of?

 

[eBay Huckster]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

Zimmerman.

 

[Nowise10]

Have you been reading the thread? Like at all? Or do you see profiling as some totally nonracist thing people do?

Actually I've read like a total of 7 pages from the time it began, and have probably seen like 20 comments in total as if its 100% proof Zimmermen killed him in cold blood, and he was only a child.

Zimmermen is a pussy, yes. but theirs no eveidence.

 

[DY_nasty]

Apparently I'm not making my point well enough. Don't have pride in yourself because of your race. Be proud of yourself because of what you've actually accomplished. That's all I'm trying to say. I don't know why everyone thinks that is so terrible. I'll probably just get a bunch of jpegs thrown at me instead of an actual argument though.

Or you could read just any one post I've made in direct response to you and we could go from there lol

 

[Dresden]

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

You obviously know how to use a keyboard, so could you use that keyboard to explain why these things are relevant to the case?

 

[w1gglyjones]

As I said before
BS she fired at her husband
She very much tried to shoot the husband
There's full evidence of it no doubt about
Hell they even gave her a 3 year plea deal and she refused

Yeah, she was offered a fair deal.. I think later she was even offered time served with probation. She turned down both even though she left the house and came back with a gun and discharged it with her kids nearby.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

He wasn't doing well in school so he deserved to die?

 

[DY_nasty]

Actually I've read like a total of 7 pages from the time it began, and have probably seen like 20 comments in total as if its 100% proof Zimmermen killed him in cold blood, and he was only a child.

Zimmermen is a pussy, yes. but theirs no eveidence.

Zimmerman isn't just a pussy, he's a vigilante.

That should be the issue here. But apparently this trial was about Martin for many...

Zimmerman.

I lol'd

 

[Zep]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

This is like listening to a late night radio caller who just rambles....And really has no point to the call.

 

[Devolution]

Apparently I'm not making my point well enough. Don't have pride in yourself because of your race. Be proud of yourself because of what you've actually accomplished. That's all I'm trying to say. I don't know why everyone thinks that is so terrible. I'll probably just get a bunch of jpegs thrown at me instead of an actual argument though.

Jesus. People already feel isolated because they're different, that's why they group together in the first place. They're not out to keep things divided, they don't feel accepted. Why do you think gays are all about pride of self? Because people are so accepting of them and who they are?

 

[daffy]

I remember hearing about this case a year or so ago in Daytona. What I don't get is how people can be "happy" with the verdict. Like, are you in your kitchen saying "god damn it yes George got off" or what is that

Because you certainly can't be happy with the dealings of the American justice system when it's been proven faulty for awhile now. Even foreigners know this very well.

 

[Jmanunknown]

People talk about the media a lot, but the media never would have been a part of this if local law enforcement had done their job in the first place.

It had been 2 months since the killing. with Zimmerman free and the investigation was ended without any charges. Without getting the media involved there wouldn't have even been a trial.

I'm fine with the media calling the police department out but, the 24 hour constant coverage of the trial is absurd considering their is a lot of other important stuff happening in the world. That is the news world we live in now though where ratings mean everything covering news and being factual correct is second to ratings.

It is sad to think this way but, if the roles were reversed does anyone actually think Trayvon Martin would off got off?

 

[EmCeeGramr]

"W.T.F."

You don't think that "F" stands for... oh my G*d. He was abbreviating "f***"!

 

[Baron Doggystyle von Woof]

This, as well as the case of Marissa Alexander, are prime examples of how fucked up our so called "legal system" is. It's truly unbelievable that in 2013, a scumbag like Zimmerman walks while Marissa gets 20 years. My sole hope is that the outrage felt by those who have watched the trial can impact change in the future, when the old racist schmucks (who write laws and hand down verdicts) die out.

That is fucked up. Zimerman should get at least same sentence.

 

[Bam Bam Baklava]

I remember hearing about this case a year or so ago in Daytona. What I don't get is how people can be "happy" with the verdict. Like, are you in your kitchen saying "god damn it yes George got off" or what is that

Because you certainly can't be happy with the dealings of the American justice system when it's been proven faulty for awhile now. Even foreigners know this very well.

That's what happens when a case takes on extra meaning.

 

[Kettch]

Yeah, she was offered a fair deal.. I think later she was even offered time served with probation. She turned down both even though she left the house and came back with a gun and discharged it with her kids nearby.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/marissa-alexander-sentenced_n_1510113.html

On Aug. 1, 2010, a fight between Alexander and her husband, Rico Gray, 36, left her cornered in the couple's home. She fled into the garage to escape but was trapped behind a jammed door, she stated in court documents. She said she grabbed the gun she kept in the garage, returned to the house and, when Gray threatened to kill her, fired a single shot to ward him off.

 

[BadAss2961]

I have no real way to know if this is the right or wrong decision. I don't understand how people can be so sure that he was guilty.

Guy with gun obviously profiles kid in a hoodie (on a rainy night) and follows him. The kid is alarmed just like anyone would be.

Who confronted who is unclear, but we do know that the kid was unarmed and doing nothing wrong prior to being followed by some stranger... Guy with gun ends up shooting and killing unarmed kid.

This guy falsely profiled a kid and ended up killing him, yet he walks with nothing but bullshit law loopholes bent in his favor as justification. No morality whatsoever. He's a guilty man, but the law fails.

 

[Koodo]

You fucking people are totally missing my point. No one should take pride in anything that is a coincidence of their birth. You shouldn't take pride because you were born into a certain race, nationality, religion, or family. You can stand with other people of the same race, nationality, religion, family, etc. because you are oppressed and have pride in yourselves and you want to fight for your rights. My problem is that people take "insert something here" pride and substitute it for actually accomplishing something themselves and use it as a way to divide people into even more groups.

Creating a straw-man to backpedal out of a losing argument is adorable. Literally no one is taking pride in their position of prejudice to live vicariously through the accomplishments of others. Literally all of us who have been discriminated band together to deflect the vile filth shit that gets thrown our way every single day and seconds of our lives, and, in unity, create a voice strong enough to be heard among the thick layers of white patriarchal heteronormative oppression that want nothing more than to silence (or in some cases, exterminate) the marginalized.

In fact, by mere virtue of being alive and thriving while being in a position of prejudice is, in itself, something to be proud of, because that is an accomplishment. The fact that some of us continue with a positive outlook on life despite frequently being called sub-human, degenerates and physically assaulted is nothing short of brilliant.

 

[Trouble]

You obviously know how to use a keyboard, so could you use that keyboard to explain why these things are relevant to the case?

I know how to tell they aren't relevant. If they were, the defense would have been all over them during the trial.

 

[Lysander518]

This is where you take a deep breath and try to understand the possibility that you might not have the perspective necessary on this topic. Yes, its clear that such things have never had an impact in your life - however, in different cultures, such things as those weigh very differently.

You don't care. Okay, that's fine. But, and I'll simplify it for you, by saying it doesn't matter, you immediately disrespect an entirety of struggles, progress, history, and sacrifice. If nothing else, start there. And realize that the very basis of that perspective of yours in doused in selfishness and naivety.

So you're saying that different cultures have different perpectives which means that racial pride is good. I've seen the light. I was just so selfish before that I didn't realize. When a "culture" (which I now realize is a living thinking being since it can have a perspective) has a perspective everything is a-okay. Honestly, I'm not even really sure what you're trying to argue.

 

[BlackJace]

"Trayvon wasn't a role model student"

So the hell what?! Why is that relevant? The only reason one would bring up his backstory is to freaking justify his death. Sweet Jesus.

 

[Zep]

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/marissa-alexander-sentenced_n_1510113.html

If this case is anything to go by, her mistake was not killing him.

 

[Blood Diamonds]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood.I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

....are you kidding me? Really? This whole post is unbelievable. So what if he wasn't a role model student? what does that have to do with anything? so what if he smoked marijuana? so what if he had jewelry? so what if he had pictures of girls his age? so what if he had a SCREWDRIVER in his backpack? what about the reported thefts!? IT'S A NEIGHBORHOOD why is he suddenly the one suspect? because of the god damn screwdriver? about the finger, how do you expect his body to be completely fine after fighting with some creepy idiot "vigilante"? how does ANY of this alter the fact that he was followed and killed?

I just...wow.

 

[Angelus Errare]

If this case is anything to go by, her mistake was not killing him.

She's black, had she killed him she would have received life without question.

 

[Killing_Joke]

Yeah, this thread is disgusting. Hope it closes soon. Every time i see the title i feel sick. I guess fearing for his life everyday is a decent trade off.

 

[SleepyJohn11]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

Specific sources, please? Where are you getting all of this?

And are we still using fucking weed to make someone look bad still?

 

[daffy]

That's what happens when a case takes on extra meaning.

what was it this time? Or do you mean just in general there's always extra meaning

Edit: nvm I see what you are saying

 

[DY_nasty]

So you're saying that different cultures have different perpectives which means that racial pride is good. I've seen the light. I was just so selfish before that I didn't realize. When a "culture" (which I now realize is a living thinking being since it can have a perspective) has a perspective everything is a-okay. Honestly, I'm not even really sure what you're trying to argue.

No, Let's take babysteps since your first instinct is to kick back like I just slapped you or something.

I'm saying that when someone says that there is no point in having any kind of pride in their race/culture/background/etc it is ridiculous especially when the general tone of society's motions is what pushes those people into such groups to begin with.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

You must be tired from all those leaps of logic....

But the funniest part (really) is you typed all if that that thinking you were going to make some amazing point for your side of the debate. And then attempted to be sarcastic by using cap lock.

The main debate is on two points though the right to vigilantism used by zimmerman and/or was it self defense once he felt threatened.....

 

[Nilaul]

Guy with gun obviously profiles kid in a hoodie (on a rainy night) and follows him. The kid is alarmed just like anyone would be.

Who confronted who is unclear, but we do know that the kid was unarmed and doing nothing wrong prior to being followed by some stranger... Guy with gun ends up shooting and killing unarmed kid.

This guy falsely profiled a kid and ended up killing him, yet he walks with nothing but bullshit law loopholes bent in his favor as justification. No morality whatsoever. He's a guilty man, but the law fails.

If zimmerman would be proved guilty on the poor proof provided imagine howmany more actually innocent people would go to jail.

 

[Trouble]

brb, building a time machine to tell 17 year old me that weed and graffiti make it ok to shoot me.

 

[Angry Fork]

I wish empty vessel wasn't banned so he could drop knowledge on people in here.

 

[Shabutaro]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

I don't really understand this list. Not that any of that information about trayvon not being perfect is relevant, but how would Zimmerman have even known? It's not like he could sense thc levels, or use his X-ray vision to see the contents of his bag and phone for pictures and jewelry. He went in blind not knowing who this kid was. It's really useles to bring his trayvons character into this because Zimmerman wasnt privy to that information.

 

[Kettch]

If zimmerman would be proved guilty on the poor proof provided imagine howmany more actually innocent people would go to jail.

I would cry for all of the admitted child killers that would be off the streets.

 

[DY_nasty]

If zimmerman would be proved guilty on the poor proof provided imagine howmany more actually innocent people would go to jail.

By letter of the law he's not guilty. Of course.

But god help you if you're a little suspicious looking and you get into an altercation in a dark alley and the other guy has a gun and you don't. Just maybe that's what people are upset about.

Maybe.

 

[Pseudo_Sam]

You heard it here first, folks: it's only illegal to kill white people.

Oh fuck off. Because that's what this verdict means??

Does nobody understand the concept of innocent before proven guilty? And does nobody understand why that's such an important concept of law and order? Oh, but don't mind us, there's a witchhunt to be had. Armchair lawyers all up in here. Like anybody here knows exactly what happened.

 

[Hazmat]

God bless Florida for legalizing what semi-sensible states would consider manslaughter, and what reasonable countries would consider second degree murder.

Disgusting.

 

[Lysander518]

Creating a straw-man to backpedal out of a losing argument is adorable. Literally no one is taking pride in their position of prejudice to live vicariously through the accomplishments of others. Literally all of us who have been discriminated band together to deflect the vile filth shit that gets thrown our way every single day and seconds of our lives, and, in unity, create a voice strong enough to be heard among the thick layers of white patriarchal heteronormative oppression that want nothing more than to silence (or in some cases, exterminate) the marginalized.

In fact, by mere virtue of being alive and thriving while being in a position of prejudice is, in itself, something to be proud of, because that is an accomplishment. The fact that some of us continue with a positive outlook on life despite frequently being called sub-human, degenerates and physically assaulted is nothing short of brilliant.

I'm not creating a strawman. That has literally been my argument the entire time. I'm an individualist. I think that the spread of individualism is the only cure for racism. Racial pride only creates further division. And yeah, there was no hyperbole in your post.

 

[Nowise10]

Alright my last comment rustled some people, and I understand, my logic isnt the brightest, but fill me in here please, its for my benefit:

If I were to see someone who I thought was breaking into my neighbors house, and I go and confront him/yell at him, and he attacks me, why isn't it justifiable to shoot and end the situation? Not saying TV was breaking into anyones house, but thats what ZMbelieved he was doing.

 

[hbkajshdvfbkjhvgkahsgdfka]

Sooo two witnesses at the time of the event claimed they saw Trayvon ontop of Zimmerman, in a brawl on the grass, (where the hell are people getting concrete from)

One of them claimed zimmernmen was yelling for help, and the witness began calling police as it happened.

Other witnesses claimed they heard the two argue, one encountering Trayvon yelling "What are you following me for" to Zimmermen replied "What are you doing out here?"

Trayvon at the time of the crime was suspended from school for the third time for graffiti on school property, writing the letters W.T.F.. Other times were for they had found a screwdriver in his backpack, and jewelry, which he claimed was from his friend (no evidence it was stolen). He also smoked marijuana. and THC was found in system during the autopsy, but was deluded and likely from several days prior.

Trayvon also had pictured of underage females on his picture (though hes in highschool cant really blame him), pictures of him holding legal guns, and pictures of jewelry.

There had been reported thefts in the recent weeks in the neighborhood.

Trayvon also had damage to his ring finger, which was noted from his autopsy, and zimmermen a blooded, swollen nose, and cuts on the back of his head.

NOPE 100% EVIDENCE HES RACIST AND MURDERED THIS BOY, NO DOUBT THIS PROVES IT.

Oooh wait. Their isnt any amazing 100% evidence providing he went and murdered him for no reason in cold blood. I also dont know why people think just because hes 17 doesnt mean he cant do damage to someone, and he clearly wasnt a role model student.

This is almost on par with using Lupe Fiasco tweets as your mic drop moment.

A lot of this has no relevance and you're basically okaying profiling.

 

[Zeus Molecules]

Oh fuck off. Because that's what this verdict means??

Does nobody understand the concept of innocent before proven guilty? And does nobody understand why that's such an important concept of law and order? Oh, but don't mind us, there's a witchhunt to be had. Armchair lawyers all up in here. Like anybody here knows exactly what happened.

Wow telling a mod to fuck off.... ballsy

 

[Liberty4all]

The whole thing is sad. At this point I don't know wtf happened and neither did the jury apparently which is why the verdict came down not guilty.

I have no opinion on the case except to say I think some of flordia's laws need to be reviewed.

As for Zimmerman eventually he will have his case heard again on the day of judgment. At this point its out of the hands of the laws of men, barring vigilante justice.

 

[cdyhybrid]

I'm not creating a strawman. That has literally been my argument the entire time. I'm an individualist. I think that the spread of individualism is the only cure for racism. Racial pride only creates further division. And yeah, there was no hyperbole in your post.

Wouldn't an individualist believe that every person's experience is unique and thus shouldn't have to be told by someone else what/how they should think?

Alright my last comment rustled some people, and I understand, my logic isnt the brightest, but fill me in here please, its for my benefit:

If I were to see someone who I thought was breaking into my neighbors house, and I go and confront him/yell at him, and he attacks me, why isn't it justifiable to shoot and end the situation? Not saying TV was breaking into anyones house, but thats what ZMbelieved he was doing.

Do you think every teenager walking around with Skittles and iced tea is breaking into houses?