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Fighting Games Weekly | July 15-21 | Post-EVO Pillow Talk

riskVSreward said:
I agree wholeheartedly. If I had to peg one single reason as to why fighters aren't more popular it would be the fact that you have to lose a lot. People hate to lose, and they hate not having an excuse other than "you were better". That's why you hear shit like "fighters are too obtuse" or "I dont have time to train, I have a life" or even "that shit is too cheap" it's all salty scapegoating. People just don't like to admit when someone else is better.

Obviously, we are exceptions, either through sheer love of the genre or being able to shrug off a loss, or both.
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That is indeed the most threatening thing for fighting game newcomers. Sometimes a loss happens from a close match, other times a loss can happen where someone gets annihilated. Gotta have pride and be ready to learn.
 
Better online matchmaking can alleviate a lot of that. I pretty frequently get paired up with dudes in SF4/Injustice who are way below my skill level.
 
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";71257031]What fighting games are coming out for PC?[/QUOTE]
Injustice GOTY might be a thing this fall.
 
riskVSreward said:
I agree wholeheartedly. If I had to peg one single reason as to why fighters aren't more popular it would be the fact that you have to lose a lot. People hate to lose, and they hate not having an excuse other than "you were better". That's why you hear shit like "fighters are too obtuse" or "I dont have time to train, I have a life" or even "that shit is too cheap" it's all salty scapegoating. People just don't like to admit when someone else is better.

Obviously, we are exceptions, either through sheer love of the genre or being able to shrug off a loss, or both.
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I wouldn't go that far, and I don't think it's the losing part that deters people, especially since things like Divekick are so popular at non-FG conventions. It's just the matter of having focused goals for practice and mastery that throws people off, and honestly it doesn't take all that long to figure something out if you're in the proper context and frame of mind, but it's not something that comes naturally to gamers anymore. When someone calls fighting games obtuse, what they're really implying is that they wish they could just play the game and get better without explicitly trying to, which the genre doesn't facilitate. There's a ton of depth to the game, but at the start the new player would just think the executional barrier is what's holding him back, as if knowing how to throw a fireball would stop people from rushing him down.

Somehow when I started playing SF2 seriously again I subconsciously assumed that if I could do fireball or dragon punch whenever I wanted to, it would be the ideal strategy, and this was much later in life by the way, I wasn't 12 years old. Then I realized that throwing fireballs non-stop actually doesn't earn me any advantage besides a minimum of chip, and alternating between low forward xx red fireball and overhead xx sweep at medium range was infinitely more effective because it's an actual mixup. Then I realized walking up and doing a standing short tick throw 5-6 times wins me the round.
Lost Fragment said:
Better online matchmaking can alleviate a lot of that. I pretty frequently get paired up with dudes in SF4/Injustice who are way below my skill level.
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The sort of people that complain about execution barriers in fighting games are the same sorts of people that complain about bronze league cheese in SC2 and ELO hell in LoL, and I feel like having strict matchmaking facilitates a certain "scrub-class citizen" in the community. Even if fighting games ever get the sort of active player pool that allows for good matchmaking, I hope they let a mismatch squeeze in once in a while, just so people get a taste of how much they suck or how much they've improved. You can't do that in SC2 or a moba because it's a massive waste of the better player's time, but since fighting game matches are so short I think it might be a good thing to have.
 
[QUOTE="God's Beard!";71257031]What fighting games are coming out for PC?[/QUOTE]

USF4, Injustice (almost certain?), skullgirls soon, kof 13 (any day based on registry movements).
 
Footage of Terry & Benimaru from XDZW/KoC

And after watching it would seem both characters are based off their KoF '98 incarnations with Terry being a hybrid of both his '98 & EX (RBFF2) modes.

Unknown to me what their HDM's are but for Terry here's hoping for the Rising Beat. He doesn't get a chance to use that move enough seeing as it's only been in 3 games (Chaos, MI2 & Reg A). More likely than not he'll end up with the Trinity Geyser or the Rising Force though.

Benimaru will probably get the Raiouken. No idea if he has the Gen'ei Hurricane or the Elec Trigger though.
 
ReXXXSoprano said:
Footage of Terry & Benimaru from XDZW/KoC

And after watching it would seem both characters are based off their KoF '98 incarnations with Terry being a hybrid of both his '98 & EX (RBFF2) modes.

Unknown to me what their HDM's are but for Terry here's hoping for the Rising Beat. He doesn't get a chance to use that move enough seeing as it's only been in 3 games (Chaos, MI2 & Reg A). More likely than not he'll end up with the Trinity Geyser or the Rising Force though.

Benimaru will probably get the Raiouken. No idea if he has the Gen'ei Hurricane or the Elec Trigger though.
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What is this? New SNK?
 
Eurgh honestly, Capcom. Just put Haggar in the damn game. If FF and SF are in the same universe, why leave out one of the flagship characters from FF? (I am not interested in playing the crossover games). :(
 
MormaPope said:
One thing is for sure, competitive FPS popularity for events is down the toilet. More people probably tune in for a Mario 64 speed run stream than any sponsored FPS tournament stream.
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They're terrible for spectators.

And Go Hibiki seems like an easy answer for the 5th character.
 
Has it been confirmed that the only reason new characters are in USF4 is because of the guy who made the mod for SFXT chars to be used in AE?
 
Since this is going to be the last version of SFIV, and SFIV comes before SFIII as far as 'timeline' goes, I'm going to bank on the 5th character being an ancillary character that would be included to make some of the story in three have more impact or whatever.

I'm guessing 'Tom' aka the fighter who raised and trained Alex and whose ass-whippin prompted Alex to enter the World Warrior tournament in the first place.

Can anybody else think of a character inclusion that would fit the parameters [never been in a fighting game but related to sf] but might advance the SFIV story into SFIII?


-or my dark horse bet, 'The guy on the bike in the China background'.
He's been around since SFII, everyone knows him and everyone has knocked him over.
TIME FOR REVENGE.
 
JDdelphin said:
Since this is going to be the last version of SFIV, and SFIV comes before SFIII as far as 'timeline' goes, I'm going to bank on the 5th character being an ancillary character that would be included to make some of the story in three have more impact or whatever.

I'm guessing 'Tom' aka the fighter who raised and trained Alex and whose ass-whippin prompted Alex to enter the World Warrior tournament in the first place.

Can anybody else think of a character inclusion that would fit the parameters [never been in a fighting game but related to sf] but might advance the SFIV story into SFIII?


-or my dark horse bet, 'The guy on the bike in the China background'.
He's been around since SFII, everyone knows him and everyone has knocked him over.
TIME FOR REVENGE.
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I was thinking about the "tourist" guy who is in the background in lots of stages through various SF games taking pictures
 
JDdelphin said:
Since this is going to be the last version of SFIV, and SFIV comes before SFIII as far as 'timeline' goes, I'm going to bank on the 5th character being an ancillary character that would be included to make some of the story in three have more impact or whatever.

I'm guessing 'Tom' aka the fighter who raised and trained Alex and whose ass-whippin prompted Alex to enter the World Warrior tournament in the first place.

Can anybody else think of a character inclusion that would fit the parameters [never been in a fighting game but related to sf] but might advance the SFIV story into SFIII?


-or my dark horse bet, 'The guy on the bike in the China background'.
He's been around since SFII, everyone knows him and everyone has knocked him over.
TIME FOR REVENGE.
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I prefer the guy choking the chicken in China or the dude swilling that bottle in the USSR. Old school Capcom stereotypes are much better than the current ones. I'd also like to see that Vegas gambler who always bets wrong and cries.
 
Cosmo Clock 21 said:
Don't forget that the Yatagarasu expansion is coming to PC! Why haven't you backed the IGG yet

http://www.indiegogo.com/projects/yatagarasu-attack-on-cataclysm
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I hope this campaign does relatively well. It looks good.

I had dropped them a line about possibly going for a Steam release, but they weren't sure if they were going to pursue it because more popular games than Yatagarasu end up failing on the Greenlight. Hopefully they get enough support to change their minds.
 
GuardianE said:
I hope this campaign does relatively well. It looks good.

I had dropped them a line about possibly going for a Steam release, but they weren't sure if they were going to pursue it because more popular games than Yatagarasu end up failing on the Greenlight. Hopefully they get enough support to change their minds.
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Greenlight seems like a trap.
 
Brobzoid said:
Hakan's wife.
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Hakan's wife oiling herself up? Kind of want.

Would still prefer seeing Jessica from Final Fight under the Yuri transformation (AoF damsel to AoF2 competitor). Let's see Yuri ended being a shoto so Jessica should be a less goofy version of Rainbow Mika given Haggar's pro-wrestling background.
 
GuardianE said:
I hope this campaign does relatively well. It looks good.

I had dropped them a line about possibly going for a Steam release, but they weren't sure if they were going to pursue it because more popular games than Yatagarasu end up failing on the Greenlight. Hopefully they get enough support to change their minds.
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I think Nyu has pretty much said Greenlight isn't worth the effort because it's so poorly implemented.

Steam is great if you can get in, but if you can't, it's really unfair to some of the little guys.
 
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