SoraanTribal
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Lalafell or bust!
Final Fantasy XIV: A Realm Reborn - Beta Phase 3 Impression: Phase 4 August
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Lalafell or bust!
Yea, it was fully charged and everyone was screaming for me to use it lol But no Bueno. ah well. That's cool though I would have liked to see one activated at least. Guess I will party more in phase 4.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
LOL you need to target an area on the ground after you activate it and isn't the blm one meteor?
devious.one
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Did you put the Limit Break skill on your action bars? I noticed if you tried to use stuff from the skill interface it didn't always play nice.
Yes i said the black mage one is meteor I read the article........
.... I didn't see an indicator to target anything. I targeted the monster pressed limit break on the action bar and nothing happened.Yea I did do that. But when I clicked it nothing happened.
QisTopTier
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Its a big circle on the ground, it doesnt matter what you are targetingYes i said the black mage one is meteor I read the article........
Yea I did not see that. I will just try again in Phase 4. I doubt I overlooked a big circle XD
PC CE is sold out. PS3 CE is selling out very quickly too -- Amazon is sold out, apparently.
whyreggielie
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I had the issue as well but it was because I overlooked a big circle eventually I found it. Its an awesome limit break.
Limit Breaks are listed here.
http://na.finalfantasyxiv.com/sys/gameplay/battlesystem
The tank LB is insanely useful for situations like not killing Ifrit's fetter in time, and popping it when he's doing his special attack. Managed to save several random Ifrit parties from death with it.
Boss Man
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Count me in as a vote for roe. That's the best looking character, plus you'll stand out!
theSlacker
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Sounds like it would have been better used on the fetter itself as an attack then.
I've decided that I'll probably play a Maurader for the next Beta. I was a Lancer for phase 2, and a Gladiator for phase 3. It looks like Mauraders are, at least in certain regards, a split between straight up meatshield tanks, and damage dealing lancers, so it should fit my gameplay style fairly well.
Plus, that'll start me off in Limsa Lominsa, the region where I'm least familiar. So it should be a lot fresher than going through Thanalan or The Black Shroud again, as much as I love those regions.
Finally, Warriors are a much better fit for male Miq'ote than Paladins. As far as I can tell from their lore, male Miq'ote are supposed to be, both traditional but also slightly savage outsiders, and that doesn't really fit with Paladins, at least as I picture them.
Yes I realize that for gameplay purposes, that doesn't really matter, but I like fleshing out my characters like this.
Also, what does Final Fantasy XIV being apart of AMD's "Gaming Evolved," platform really mean?
Plus, that'll start me off in Limsa Lominsa, the region where I'm least familiar. So it should be a lot fresher than going through Thanalan or The Black Shroud again, as much as I love those regions.
Finally, Warriors are a much better fit for male Miq'ote than Paladins. As far as I can tell from their lore, male Miq'ote are supposed to be, both traditional but also slightly savage outsiders, and that doesn't really fit with Paladins, at least as I picture them.
Yes I realize that for gameplay purposes, that doesn't really matter, but I like fleshing out my characters like this.
Also, what does Final Fantasy XIV being apart of AMD's "Gaming Evolved," platform really mean?
Unknown Soldier
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So why don't you be a catboy to match her catgirl?
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There are not enough Female Roegadyn out there!
I still love my Male Lalafell on Sargatanas from 1.x, but he will be turning into a FemRoe in ARR.
QisTopTier
XisBannedTier
Cat Girls like Roe's didn't you do the escort FATE
You escort a prostitute who hooks up with one, as they run into their love shack she says dont worry we have alllllll night
Thanks, after playing that character all through beta 3 I've decided to remake her for Beta4/Live. I played a mithra for 5 years on FFXI, and all through FFXIV and would continue to do so ... But I just like my Femgalk too much.
I did make one to see how I liked it. I simply forgot to initially list it. I liked it, but seeing hundreds of me was annoying.
Which Roe? Male or female?
Relaxed Muscle
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Is the setup I'm using and it's fine. The only problem is that at some point you're limited to 16 skills at the same time, so you have to keep changing between different layers of hot-bar skills and can be confusing, but is mostly a matter of slowly adapting (and learn to setup the skills on a more organizer manner)
Boss Man
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The one with man bits
Lee Chaolan
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I never got to Limit Break even once. Was that reserved for big parties only, or past level 10?
Edit - Nevermind, found out parties of 4 or more. Only even did 2 person parties. /sad
Edit - Nevermind, found out parties of 4 or more. Only even did 2 person parties. /sad
Yeah, I was working on ways to adapt to that limitation when the beta ended.
Stage one was going to be to make different layers, for different situations. A questing/navigation layer, a combat layer, a Chocobo layer, etc etc.
Stage two was, to learn how to use Macro's, first to automatically use certain items in certain situations, such as Potion at 50% HP, and Hi-Potion at 25%, to make life easier for healers. Afterward, I figured I'd use Macro's on non-item commands, as I became more familiar with them.
Course, I'll have to set this up over and over for every job, which is kind of annoying. I'm fairly certain that using a keyboard for combat wouldn't change this however.
The male Miqo'te clothes scream sailor to me, so I chose MRD for my character. He fit right in. Also personally, I like Limsa the most out of the three cities.
LowParry
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Well, the more you progress into Marauder and into Warrior, the more of a tank they become. They may (or may not) do more damage than a Paladin but no way will they ever out damage Lancer/Dragoon. But you'll quickly learn your roll in the end is a tank and as a Marauder/Warrior and will never be considering dps in a group. I'll admit though, Marauders early levels they do some pretty good damage. Suppose it all depends on what you're aiming for. Tank? DPS? /pose?
I'm probably going both routes of Paladin and Warrior for situational tanking in the end. Going to be a lot of work but worth it in the end.
I tend to figure that, assuming I stick to one server, I'll likely get high levels in several jobs anyway, mostly to be able to fill numerous roles in whatever free company I end up in.
People probably play best in their starting roles however, at least for the most part.
Anyhow, I never figured that Marauder would be anything other than a Tank. I just assumed, looking at stats and skills, that Marauders and Warriors, were more offense tanks, where as Gladiators and Paladins more defense oriented tanks. I admit I may be wrong in that impression however.
I just figure that, if I always want to be kept busy, Mauraders would probably fit that better. Gladiators absorb damage amazingly well, but if their in a situation where they need to take on a DPS role, even momentarily, they're kind of out of luck. All their offensive skills seem geared toward widdling HP down over time, so if an add shows up that MUST be taken down quickly, and the DPS isn't performing well, they're kinda out of luck.
You're right though, they're never going to out damage a comparable leveled and equipped Lancer, and they'll be more dependent on a good healer to keep their HP up, since their defense stat is lower than Gladiators. They're probably a decent enough compromise in a pinch however.
theSlacker
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Unless of course you let the Lancer die. Then all the dpses can be yours.
Honestly, I got REALLY lost in Limsa! I got lost in other cities as well, but not nearly as badly. I'm not really fond of Limsa itself, but I loved the surrounding landscape, from what little of it I saw.
I definitely will need to spend more time planning and creating macros.
It is odd, I had used only the kb+m for the first 2 phases of Beta, and did not try the controller until the beginning of phase 3, started to really get into it since I had only ever played FFXI with a PS2 controller. Then towards the end of phase 3, felt I needed to switch back to the kb+m since only having 16 slots per page of the cross hotbar may not be enough, depending on the class you play.
The thing that I forgot to take time to test though, is it possible to use the controller with the cross hotbar, and also have other regular hotbars on screen to use the mouse with at the same time? Or are we restricted to only one or the other?
Was thinking of having essential combat abilities on one page of the CHB, maybe some non-essentials on a second, and then out of combat stuff on one or two other hotbars above the CHB or on the side of the screen.
If not, I guess I will need to take time to practice switching the CHB and hope I never get confused in the middle of battle as to which of the 8 pages I am on. Since overall, I think I prefer the feel of using the controller along with the keyboard and rare mouse usage.
LowParry
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RaySpencer
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This is awesome and perfect! thanks for the writeup! Thanks for even explaining the types of magic Black Mages get too, I appreciate it!
I wonder if Bards will be wanted, I would like a support but still damage class, and bows are rad.
I'd wager their songs will be pretty crucial.
I hate using keyboards for gaming, if I can at all avoid them. I may be able to type pretty darn fast, but for some reason whenever I try gaming on the thing, I totally lose track of where all the proper buttons are. I end up having to look down at the keyboard every 10-15 seconds to re-orient myself.
Also, navigation feels a LOT better with a controller.
Shield Lob > Rage of Halone combo with Spirits Within in between does amazing damage--it's just as potent as WAR's B&B combo potencies (within like 10 potency)--go look on xivdb.com if you don't believe me. You don't even need to bother to use Flash to hold hate on single target doing this (even at lower level before SW). When I tanked Brayflox on PLD I never even needed to use Flash except to keep adds on me and I was partying with good players from my LS. Just use that RoH combo. I was also killing level 50 trash mobs on my PLD just as fast as I was on my (better geared) MNK. PLD can single-target DPS plenty well.
The main difference is that PLD doesn't get the good AOE damage that WAR gets; Overpower is especially strong in the early dungeons since they're so easy you don't need to use CC so early game favors MRD right now simply for their faceroll AOE damage output, but not significantly enough to be a big deal.
Lavalamp1138
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Going by their skill set, I'd say they are pretty useful. Songs that refresh the party's MP/TP? Yes please!
theSlacker
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Muscle memory from years and years of use. The only way to start the process is to buckle up and start using it. There has always been games that have just simply been better controlled on mouse and keyboard.
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Bards are always wanted for their songs, makes things easy mode
theSlacker
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Don't make the mistake of comparing classes by the potency of their attacks. The base damage that the potency is a modifier of will also be different from class to class.
You're welcome.
As for bards, I'm sure they'll be wanted. In 1.x they were practically a necessity for most of the later endgame stuff but in ARR their buffs are not as potent as they used to be (to compensate, their DPS is higher, relative to other DD jobs).
Seeing as Bard is a job so all its buff abilities are level 30+ there was no higher level content to test their usefulness against in the beta. I, and other 1.x players, had bard leveled so I got to test it out in beta but since there was no party content for 45+ I wasn't able to really get a good feel for their songs.
For smallman content you probably won't really need to use your songs anyway, or at least not often. Larger group content is where bard will shine. You need enough people receiving your buff to make it worth nerfing your own damage to play a song. Say on a 5 minute boss fight with 4 melee DDs, you can bet that TP song will be a great boost to the party's DPS (at the small expense of your own, but that's the point).
It's also a function of weapon damage and other stats like STR/AP. Doesn't change the fact that PLD's damage is really good.... on single targets.
devious.one
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Beta Forum mods posted some interesting things today from Devs (particularly crafting):
About Crafting said:
About Interface said:
About FATEs said:
About head slot toggle said:
Yes, well, most the genres I like typically play better on controllers. The exceptions are, FPS's and MMORPG's, and the latter is a genre I've only picked up recently. The former, for the most part plays well enough on a controller these days. Aiming is of course faster and more precise with a mouse, but not when you're muscle memory is geared towards controllers.
Limsa is a maze lol. I love the city's atmosphere and the fact everyone was a pirate at some point. The NPC's really make you feel at home.
RaySpencer
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Thanks guys, its easy enough to switch classes and jobs right? or is it just jobs you can switch around?
I also might want to go Arcanist, Ive played a lot of Druid and Warlock in WoW over the years, and I had a Mentalist in DAoC, so I do like DoT/HoT characters, so I might have to swing in that direction.
....or I can say fuck all that and go Lancer, cause Lances are fucking cool as hell and most games dont let you use them as weapons, haha.
I think ive only eliminated Pugilist and Marauder, everything else leads to something I might want to play, haha.
I've found that Limsa is a lot easier to navigate if I just look around in front of me. I tend to give myself far more headaches if I'm using the map because of how often I'm transitioning between the lower and upper decks.
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