Pollux
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Because what I said isn't 100% true, right?
Obama: "Trayvon Martin could have been me."
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Because what I said isn't 100% true, right?
I didn't say Obama was in "deep trouble". Stop making things up.
Zoramon089
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Uhh, no. It isn't
So when you used CRUSHED (in caps) you simply meant they were in a little bit of trouble, right?
It's obvious that changing the 2nd amendment is a no go and I'm not so sure about it anyways, but we can certainly have laws that demand gun carrying citizens to be as responsible as the police, and I mean the real police, not LAPD.
If you have a gun, and result in someone's death in a situation that could be avoided, you go to jail, plain and simple, because as a gun owner, you have more responsibility than someone who doesn't.
If you have a gun, and result in someone's death in a situation that could be avoided, you go to jail, plain and simple, because as a gun owner, you have more responsibility than someone who doesn't.
Fine. CRUSHED. Jesus christ. Can you admit you were wrong?
Agreed. Second term, speak out already.
He's the leader of the free world, as they say, about time someone spoke up for the causal bigotry that exists in our society.
This whole trial, and how how country has reacted to it, makes me sick.
Pollux
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Obama is 50% black and 50% white. Zimmerman is 50% hisanic and 50% white. Obama self-identifies as black, so we consider him black. Zimmerman self-identifies as hispanic --- but hispanic shoots black teen doesn't sound that good....
Had Obama came out and said this after all this had died down I could see some validity in your comment.
But now? Your comment appears desperate.
? You can be white and hispanic.
I'm sorry but 99% of people if they saw Obama and didn't know he was 1/2 white would say he's completely black.
SEGAvangelist
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DING DING DING DING!!!
It's the willful ignorance status quo. "I don't want to talk about it, therefore it doesn't exist."
Nothing the POTUS said is out of place. In fact, he should be talking about it. He's the motherfucking President.
Quotes designates exact word usage.
Also, I think this administration and the one before it are beyond any legit trouble. Too much power.
Yeah, but you don't live in a country that treats people by their 'proportion of race'.
Zoramon089
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Except you're the one bringing Zimmerman's race into it. The issue is a BLACK teen's experiences with racism. How this point went over your head is beyond me. And before you go bringing up the second paragraph, it was more the point that a black teen wouldn't have gotten away with a similar act. It's the same way blacks minors are more likely tried as adults than other races
Domcorleone
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Hold on, so Hispanics or any other minority can't have racial prejudice against blacks?
Again. 66% of the public agrees with the NSA. The public did not care. What does this have to do with the NSA? Would you also like some extra tinfoil?
People were already not focusing on the NSA stuff without any help from the President.
You can't "change" the second amendment per say but the second amendment is so ambiguous that it has been reinterpreted many times over the history of the United States. The most recent interpretation of "any citizen has the right to own a HANDgun" is fairly recent if my history is correct (could be wrong). That's why states are free to restrict assault rifles and the like.
Frank the Great
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Am I witnessing an act of white oppression protest before my very eyes?
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Video is up on c-span now, btw:
http://www.c-spanvideo.org/event/221869
Can we do it by repealing the war on drugs both parties end up helping rather than a vague self defense case? Please?
You tried to insinuate that he was so politically hurt by the NSA that he would purposefully stoke the flames to cover it up.
Which is stupid. You were called out on it and are now currently backpedaling.
Do you live in a vacuum? You've got it backwards.
Hispanic isn't a race so I'm not sure what you're getting at.
Yup. Obama is only black because society identifies him as black. Genetic background means nothing when it comes to societal racial classification.
Interesting.
Separation of Powers isn't even a concern when the President is just speaking on a public matter (and hell, if it did, that would nullify a lot of the point of a President to begin with). He's speaking his opinion on something, not trying to overturn law or use executive powers.
Syph Medwes
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Just saw this, shameful. No way around it.
Deified Data
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I get people who would rather our President keep his distance from hot button issues...if he came out and said "the verdict is unjust", I might even agree with you (even though I, too, see the verdict as unjust...the letter of the law was followed, for better or worse).
But expressing empathy for the young victim of this crime is hardly controversial, and if you find it divisive to show empathy I really have to question your judgement.
But expressing empathy for the young victim of this crime is hardly controversial, and if you find it divisive to show empathy I really have to question your judgement.
TangoAlphaLima
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It's complicated, but yes. Until a few years ago, the Second Amendment had not been interpreted to either apply directly to individuals or to apply to the states (it previously applied to federal law and districts, like Washington, D.C.).
Hispanic is not a race. Hispanics can be white, black or brown.
Kano on the Phone
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Realistically, no.
What exactly is shameful about it?
This thread is full of drive-by posts like this that completely fail to elaborate on what's so wrong with Obama expressing his opinion on this issue.
I didn't backtrack. Where did you read that?
Duane Cunningham
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That post will be acquitted. It was just standing its ground.
No, that's not what I meant to say at all. Which group of white people do you think might possibly be compelled to think deeper about the underlying issues? Certainly not the braindead soccer moms and white collar joes, residing within the safety bubble of suburbia, which is almost certainly the demographic that needs a healthy dose of self-reflection.
SlipperySlope
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I never pictured Obama as the type to have a picture of a gun on his bed.
Trayvon was a gangster wanna-be, something Obama wasn't.
Trayvon was a gangster wanna-be, something Obama wasn't.
It definitely could have been President Obama and/or anyone else. However, the outcome might have been different with each individual person. Would there have been a physical confrontation if the person was someone else? Not necessarily. Every person is different in temperament and in the way they deal with confrontation.
The Lamonster
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Shrennin
Didn't get the memo regarding the 14th Amendment
Is it entirely about race? Last I heard, evidence pointed toward Zimmerman not profiling Martin based on his race. It's being made about race, but I don't see much evidence pointing toward the original case being about race at all (in regards to Zimmerman's motivations for what happened that night). I haven't even heard any specific juror say it could have been about race - in fact, all of the ones that I have heard speak out have said the opposite.
This seems like a poorly chosen case for this type of argument.
What does that have to do with anything?
I have had guns, pictures of guns, pictures of me holding guns, a shirt with a gun on it that could be considered gang-banger material. Am I a gangster wanna-be?
soundahfekz
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LMAO. 'Cause racism is over and we should suppress any discourse on the objective disparity in equality blacks face when dealing with any law enforcement scenario. Damnit Obama, now we might have to get off of our lazy asses and have a conversation!
--- this is about as bold of a statement he could make without people igniting the pitchforks.
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