Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS: Info Collection - Dojo, Mega Man and Trailer! 2014!

If Wii Fit trainer and The Villager can get in, ANYONE can.

Seriously, whether it be Mii, Ridley, Duck Hunt Dog, Nintedogs, [insert unthinkable], they all got a chance now.

I'd mock you relentlessly for suggesting some standard mook would have any spot on the character roster but otherwise I'd agree.

I'll agree with you again in ten pages though.
 
I hope Fried Ricer gets in.

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Now that there's a Smash coming out for the 3DS, a console with quite a wide causal userbase, I hope they keep the causla/gimmicky mechanics/stuff relegated to that version of the game.

That way, they can focus on making the Wii U version a lot more tourney friendly, maybe even more tourney friendly than Melee, as it wouldn't make sense to try to get causals with Smash Bros for. Wii U as the only Wii U buyers for some time now will most likely be the hardcores.
A HA A HA A HA.

The worst thing about this joke of the post is that it implies that consoles are more hardcore than handhelds. The attitude that handhelds are secondary by nature is so outdated.
 
I just looked at the new screen on my 3DS and man Fox and Pit look really really tiny. I'm hoping Sakurai did that on purpose just to show off the new stage :/
 
What's with this whole "this one can't fight arguement"? Aren't all the characters in Smash Bros. series the animated versions of the trophies? Looking at Super Smash Bros.64 and SSB: Melee intros, they are just the trophies, but animated and ready to fight. So, the "size" arguement is even less relevant than what it should be even if this wasn't the case.
 
What kind of irks me is that Wii Fit Trainer didn't really open the floodgates for potential character inclusions -- they were already open. Turning a non-fighter into a fighter? There's Captain Falcon. Unexpected characters? Mr. Game & Watch was first.

What's surprising about Wii Fit Trainer is that, like Animal Crossing, Sakurai had previously ruled Wii Fit out as not lending itself to a Smash Bros. character. I (and many others) completely forgot about Wii Fit in the context of Smash Bros. as soon as I heard Sakurai say that. At the end of the day, Wii Fit is still a Nintendo EAD series that's sold over 40 million units (becoming something of a mainstream fad in the process). Wii Fit Trainer is both a deserving and sensible inclusion, just one that flew over all of our heads. Her being in the game doesn't randomly make characters from obscure games like Magical Starsign or something any more likely than before.
 
Hey, hey... what if...

Star Fox gets a new character, and it's not Slippy, Krystal or even Andross.

but Panther and he's like a swordsman... or a fencer because Spanish
 
Star Fox gets a new character, and it isn't Krystal, Slippy, Peppy, Andross, or anyone you'd expect.

It's Miyu from the cancelled Star Fox 2!

(Things that will never happen, episode #125293)
 
One of the few things I would bet real money on (if it was allowed) is that there aren't going to be any newcomers from the Yoshi, Kirby, Star Fox, F-Zero, or Mother series.
 
One of the few things I would bet real money on (if it was allowed) is that there aren't going to be any newcomers from the Yoshi, Kirby, Star Fox, F-Zero, or Mother series.

Agreed even though F-Zero probably should get a newcomer for once but man I am doubting it'll ever happen.

And I bet Falcon is going to be an unlockable again :/
 
We'd need like 10 Kid Icarus stages to cover how many awesome levels are in that game, and even then we'd be missing out on 15.
 
I was looking through the Smash community last night to update my BadMiiversePost twitter account and came across this, thought you might get a laugh out of it.
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I'm very surprised at how good the 3DS version is looking, if someone does a bundle for both versions, I think I'll definitely dip, but for now, I'm sticking to the Wii U version.
 
A HA A HA A HA.

The worst thing about this joke of the post is that it implies that consoles are more hardcore than handhelds. The attitude that handhelds are secondary by nature is so outdated.
Generally, no.
In the case of the 3DS&Wii U?

Absolutely, the 3DS is more popular with the casuals than the Wii U - that, imho, makes the 3DS a more casual-friendly console unlike the Wii U. The casual audience on the Wii U is pretty non-existent, so you might as well make a game that is focused on those hardcores that are the main audience of the Wii U.
 
Generally, no.
In the case of the 3DS&Wii U?

Absolutely, the 3DS is more popular with the casuals than the Wii U - that, imho, makes the 3DS a more casual-friendly console unlike the Wii U. The casual audience on the Wii U is pretty non-existent, so you might as well make a game that is focused on those hardcores that are the main audience of the Wii U.

Provide evidence for this.

The 3DS is only more popular with "the casuals" because the 3DS has a much bigger userbase. What's your reasoning for the ratio being skewed that way?
 
One of the few things I would bet real money on (if it was allowed) is that there aren't going to be any newcomers from the Yoshi, Kirby, Star Fox, F-Zero, or Mother series.
I believe avatar bets are still allowable.

Generally, no.
In the case of the 3DS&Wii U?

Absolutely, the 3DS is more popular with the casuals than the Wii U - that, imho, makes the 3DS a more casual-friendly console unlike the Wii U. The casual audience on the Wii U is pretty non-existent, so you might as well make a game that is focused on those hardcores that are the main audience of the Wii U.
And why does hardcore = tourney players? I don't give two and a half twix bars for tourney Smash and yet I'd probably put myself in the "hardcore" contingent because of my Nintendo Trivia knowledge. Bit silly to split the focus when it can result in alienating those who only own one of the systems.
 
Provide evidence for this.

The 3DS is only more popular with "the casuals" because the 3DS has a much bigger userbase. What's your reasoning for the ratio being skewed that way?

I retract my post, and make a new one:

The 3DS potential as a casual console is far greater than the Wii U's potential, which can be reflected in the strategies of Nintendo as well.
They are pining their hope for increased Wii U sales on the hardcores (and this article was prior launch, what with the lack-luster sales it's reasonable to assume they'll double-down on delivering content appealing to the hardcores, while they with the 3DS got a sizable casual audience thanks to Nin the last year or two having focused on delivering engaging casual content.

With the Wii U already having a pretty small user base, and have a hard time to gain traction with either hardcores or casuals, and while some of the upcoming titles are casual focused (Wii Fit U and Wii Party U in 2013), the majority of titles are hardcore-focused. If these casual big hitters fail, I'm guessing that Nintendo will give up on the Wii U-Casual audience and double their efforts on hardcore games.

If that's their plan, designing the Wii U Smash Bros version to be more casual friendly would be a mistake if such design elements would be push away some hardcore gamers - as they need every single hardcore for the Wii U. But with the 3DS version, they got a sizeable casual and hardcore audience, and a more casualized title would perhaps be less of a risk for Nintendo.
 
One of the few things I would bet real money on (if it was allowed) is that there aren't going to be any newcomers from the Yoshi, Kirby, Star Fox, F-Zero, or Mother series.

I don't know! Sakurai seems to have a bit of a soft spot for Star Fox (it was the other possibility for his 3DS project, after all), so maybe it might just get another entrant. If that were to happen, I'd honestly rather have Andross or Leon.

Please Sakurai, make a StarFox game, some day.
 
We'd need like 10 Kid Icarus stages to cover how many awesome levels are in that game, and even then we'd be missing out on 15.
I dunno, some levels are blatantly better than others. That First Town and That Burning Town aren't especially remarkable, after all; just look at their names!
 
I'm really shocked that so many people are missing the joke...

I'm like 99% sure Palutena being "too big" was a joke, lol

Sorry I'm a moron, it flew over my head. Carry on.

Also put me in the crowd that thinks there won't be as many newcomers for existing series, I think given what the first three reveals are we can expect Sakurai to dig deeper into Nintendo's history to pull characters from different IPs. (that rumored list of 6 characters also doesn't share any series with those already in Smash)
 
I don't know! Sakurai seems to have a bit of a soft spot for Star Fox (it was the other possibility for his 3DS project, after all), so maybe it might just get another entrant.
The thing is, Adventures, Assault, and Command all came out between Melee and Brawl. Those games are of questionable quality, but they're still three brand new entries to the series, so it made sense that there would be another character. There's only been a remake released since then. I don't think Star Fox is "dead," but it certainly hasn't grown in the last seven years to warrant another character.
 
Bizarre choice of a Kid Icarus stage, but I guess it does give Sakurai an excuse to include Viridi in some form other than a trophy. I just have a hard time hearing the upbeat Underworld theme playing on a stage as grim as one where thousands of people behind you are brutally murdered.

What will they even call it? The place where the Reset Bomb hits isn't given a name in Kid Icarus Uprising. Though I suppose Sakurai could give it a name, considering he created it. Maybe it will be called "Wrath of the Reset Bomb" after the chapter it takes place in.
 
Bizarre choice of a Kid Icarus stage, but I guess it does give Sakurai an excuse to include Viridi in some form other than a trophy. I just have a hard time hearing the upbeat Underworld theme playing on a stage as grim as one where thousands of people behind you are brutally murdered.

What will they even call it? The place where the Reset Bomb hits isn't given a name in Kid Icarus Uprising. Though I suppose Sakurai could give it a name, considering he created it. Maybe it will be called "Wrath of the Reset Bomb" after the chapter it takes place in.

Do we know if it is a moving stage? It could visit many locales from KI:U if so.
 
I would've gone with the space pirate ship but the new stage is acceptable for a Viridi appearance. Maybe there will be stage codecs with her since we all know
Palutena will be playable.
 
What will they even call it? The place where the Reset Bomb hits isn't given a name in Kid Icarus Uprising. Though I suppose Sakurai could give it a name, considering he created it. Maybe it will be called "Wrath of the Reset Bomb" after the chapter it takes place in.
"Ground Zero" is simple enough to work, but there are people who act like that term was created for 9/11 so I kind of doubt it'll be used. I like how it sounds, though.
 
Do we know if it is a moving stage? It could visit many locales from KI:U if so.

I doubt that it will be a moving stage. The concept already has a gimmick built into it: it starts with a war going on, then a Reset Bomb will fall and transform the stage. The stage will probably then revert somehow.
 
The thing is, Adventures, Assault, and Command all came out between Melee and Brawl. Those games are of questionable quality, but they're still three brand new entries to the series, so it made sense that there would be another character. There's only been a remake released since then. I don't think Star Fox is "dead," but it certainly hasn't grown in the last seven years to warrant another character.

That's true, but few things can help foster interest more than a "new" character entrant in a popular franchise like Smash.

And besides, it's not as if the number of recent games for a respective series has had any apparent effect on how much of the Smash roster they take up. If that was the case, the DK side should have had the likes of Diddy, Dixie or K.Rool added a long time ago (or at least, certainly by Brawl, along with Diddy); it's not as if DKC Returns was the first DK game released after a significant gap. Not to mention how Warioware only had Wario, when a number of people were all but certain that someone like Ashley was going to get added along with him, due to the WW series' popularity at the time (5 games released in the span of 3 years, prior to Brawl's release). "And her song is in the game!!!!"

I think the only series in Smash that really is affected by new games are Fire Emblem and PKMN, and in the case of the latter, that likely has to do with whoever the TPC is interested in seeing marketed at the time, rather than it actually being Sakurai's wholehearted choice.
 
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