Are "latinos" white now?

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Just wait for someone to discredit them as not true spaniards or as "immigrants" while these blond haired blue eyed people over here are totally Spanish
 
Oh for crying out loud.

As a white latin man myself I can tell you we are a pretty diverse people.
We even have *gasp* asian latinos.

This race thing feels so medieval.
 
My word I find it absolutely hilarious how obsessed so many Hispanics are with being white. You can see it in the posts that express offense at OPs suggestion that Zimmerman looks Latino. I cant wait until some Argentinians post about how "white" their nation is and some Spaniards assure us that they are in fact white because they're totally in Europe!

As far as I know, the majority of the population of Argentina is of European ancestry and not mixed with Amerindian. That is a fact. I think the same is true of Uruguay, Paraguy, and a little less so in Chile and Brazil. Mexico on the the other hand, the majority of the population is mestizo.

Now Spain, as far as my world history knowledge has throughout it's history been mostly white except for the time the Moors invaded.

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Martin Sheen was born in Ohio. His father was born in Spain.

I was referring to your earlier comment when you stated that Louis CK's father is not Mexican.
 
but if zimmerman is white. Than most latinos, like 90%. are white.

Not 90%, but a high percentage, yes. How is that weird? Argentina and Uruguay are known for having lots of European immigrants, so lots of people there look completely European, but are Latin because of the geographical location they were born in.
 
And South American countries had and still have a lot of European immigrants too, what is your point? Heck, Spain has a very, very large history with middle eastern and African people as well, so saying: "no one in Spain looks like Zimmerman" is really beyond stupid.



Or worse...

Well Spain, unlike a place like Sicily went through a "cleansing" process and kicked out any person of Jewish or Moorish descent. Even natives that were converts. So today if you look at the genes of 4paniards and the Portuguese you'll find that they have some of the "oldest" genetics in Europe. Mostly from pre-Roman times iirc.
 
My word I find it absolutely hilarious how obsessed so many Hispanics are with being white. You can see it in the posts that express offense at OPs suggestion that Zimmerman looks Latino. I cant wait until some Argentinians post about how "white" their nation is and some Spaniards assure us that they are in fact white because they're totally in Europe!
I find it absolutely hilarious how so many white people are obsessed with being white.
 
The "latino" moniker is really the same as the "American" moniker. As in, it doesn't describe an ethnic group, it describes a nationality type.
So yes latinos can be "white" they can also be black, aaian and other lesser known groups. Latino is as much as a racial group as "Canadian".

This thread is dumb.

I'm not sure race even actually exists lol

It doesn't, but I'm sure someone will chime in with how it does. And chances are high they'll pull some phrenology type BS into it.
 
I always thought they regarded themselves as "brown", hence the "brown pride" phrase, many have that even tatted such as Cain Velasquez

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It doesn't, but I'm sure someone will chime in with how it does. And chances are high they'll pull some phrenology type BS into it.
It scares me how racially-motivated "science" is still going on and how some otherwise intelligent folks will slobber all over studies that "prove" those ugly non-white people are worse than whites in some way.
 
I always thought they regarded themselves as "brown", hence the "brown pride" phrase, many have that even tatted such as Cain Velasquez

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That is more of a mexican-american thing, you don't see Canelo sporting those tattoos (would be funny 'tho).

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For census purposes Race is separated from Latino or Hispanic origins. You can be white and latino or white and hispanic

When I have to fill out a question asking for race, I always see the options 1) white 2) Hispanic/Latino (not white). Never an option for both.
 
So in more than 700 years Moors and Spaniards didn't intermarry? (They did)

Very little. Genetics show that intermarriage was not very common, probably because Christians lived in segregated neighbourhoods and blood feuds ran for centuries. It is believed that most North African markers are considerably older and probably related to the Phoenicians.

Spanish people haven't been "white" since the moorish invasion of Spain. They even invented the term "blue blooded" to discern racial purity.

Again, this is not true.
 
Spanish people haven't been "white" since the moorish invasion of Spain. They even invented the term "blue blooded" to discern racial purity.
 
His mother being from Peru which is one of the regions in South-America with the smallest European admixture there's high chances that his mother is ethnically speaking Amerindian, so it's not surprising that Zimmerman has strong Amerindian features hence why it's difficult for some people to stomach Zimmerman being labeled as "white" because they identify those features with being mostly common in the region of South-America so they automatically think of "hispanic" or "latino" in the US. To me he looks mestizo.

Having a white American of German descent father and a Peruvian mother did that to him, yes. In any case, the way he looks and other people look might have nothing to do with where they are from and how they identify ethnically.

OP clearly can't differentiate between an agenda pushed by the media in a particular case, and the identification of dozens of millions of people around the world that he tries to define under one racially-oriented label, when such label is being misused and is not representative of someone's skin color.
 
Well if Gasol brothers, Fernando Alonso, Iniesta, Xavi, Xabi or Casillas aren't considered whites we spaniards aren't whites, but who cares?.
 
Its not a white vs black story. Any race can racially profile.

While this is true, it only ever seems to be highlighted by the press when there's a crime commited against a black individual and then the public end up perceiving it as a 'white vs black' story based on past events and assumptions around the word 'minority.'
 
Wasn't there three basic races, africoid (African), caucasoid (European) and mongoloid (Asian)?

Latinos would probably fall into white or maybe even Asian under this idea.
 
It scares me how racially-motivated "science" is still going on and how some otherwise intelligent folks will slobber all over studies that "prove" those ugly non-white people are worse than whites in some way.

Indeed, it's a shame we as humans have come so far but in the grand scheme of things have moved so little.
 
Random sampling of Spanish people on the BBC website:

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Well, there you go. There is some racial diversity that I see (the second person looks Indian from India), but none of them are what most people would call "white", IMO.

Also that last guy is rocking some crazy eyes.

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Wasn't there three basic races, africoid (African), caucasoid (European) and mongoloid (Asian)?

Latinos would probably fall into white or maybe even Asian under this idea.

Yes that is true, there are only three skull types.
North Indians, Middle Easterns, Mediterranean people etc are all caucasoids who originally came from Europe, whatever differences you see between them is a result of inter mixing with the native population and the result of the adaptation to the location over many many years.

Of course today the term Caucasian is simply used to refer to white people, which in itself is quite funny because when you look at it from a certain perspective the people from say somewhere like Italy are not really the same as the people from England or Scandinavian countries, yet they are all categorized as the "white race"..
 
There be some ignorant racists in this thread. The ignorant part of racist is important as it seems quite a few people on GAF seem to live under the delusion that white on black crime is equal to "black on black" crime or that talking about race causes racism.
 
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