KaiserBecks
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The guy I replied to said Fish was trolling games journalists. Fish isn't trolling games journalists. It's as simple as that.
FEZ 2 (possibly?) cancelled | Aka: Phil Fish acts like a 5 year old on Twitter
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The guy I replied to said Fish was trolling games journalists. Fish isn't trolling games journalists. It's as simple as that.
lol i cant stop laughing
Snapshot King
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Kamiyas got talent, charm, and doesn't come off as a childish petulant dick. He's made many of the greatest games of all time.
Fish is unlikable and made Fez. It's easy to see the difference between the two.
darkside31337
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Can't wait for Fez 2 to show back up at Gamescom.
MvmntInGrn
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I agree as far as all this being just his reaction and not what started the problem (Marcus Beer did) but
This is exactly it. The way Fish deals with these kind of situations only makes them worse.
ebullientprism
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Phil Fish is awesome, if only for the way he riles up people here.
And I am 99% sure this is a troll.
And I am 99% sure this is a troll.
KingOfLimbs
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Honest question i thought Kamiya's twitter was pretty tame just people constantly asking him stupid questions and him very occasionally telling them to fuck off. Does he get the level of abuse that the other twat incites?
At least Kamiya is funny about it.
need4speed
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Didn't Kamiya tell people on his twitter to eat shit?
Jason Frost
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Solid Samus
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I'm not even going to pretend like I don't casually use references like that. it's a fucking Futurama quote aaaaghhh. Ah, no, maybe I should just take things too seriously in order to justify my response. Phil Fish, you clearly want that man to literally compare his life to yours, and you think so highly of yourself that he'd kill himself upon realizing that he'll never match up to you, you fucking prick! What a horrible, horrible thing this is
I'm gonna preface my next statement with "Phil Fish is still an asshole" but seriously, take your hands everybody
grab that stick labeled "PC AS FUCK" and, please, slide it back out of your collective asses
BoosterDuck
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Even if Phil Fish does end up making this game. I will not give him any money because of how terrible he handles this sort of stuff.
When you're constantly "acting" like an asshole, you shouldn't be surprised when people think you're an asshole.
edit: fuck why I did enter this thread
Yeah man he's so edgy
Bending_Unit_22
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Well I barely know who he is, which sounds like a good thing.
Ooooo, stained glass design is cool. Saw a How It's Made about it, I'd rather do that than design Fez 2.
KingOfLimbs
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Risible
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What a fucking child.
I understand he gets a lot of shit on the internet. So fucking what. Here's an idea, stop desperately searching for news about yourself and stop interacting with the media. Listen to what people say about your abrasive personality and learn from it.
Instead he consistently throws gasoline on the fire and then gets pissy when he gets called out for it. He literally has now used the nuclear option we all know from child hood - "Fine! I'm taking my ball and going home!"
Sad.
I understand he gets a lot of shit on the internet. So fucking what. Here's an idea, stop desperately searching for news about yourself and stop interacting with the media. Listen to what people say about your abrasive personality and learn from it.
Instead he consistently throws gasoline on the fire and then gets pissy when he gets called out for it. He literally has now used the nuclear option we all know from child hood - "Fine! I'm taking my ball and going home!"
Sad.
He gets hundreds of people asking that very thing even though he has a log at the top where he's already genuinely answered the question. Not sure what you mean by the racist remark.
And it was pretty hilarious in context.
CambriaRising
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What are the chances that the game was going to be canceled anyway?
Frankenstrat
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edit: Bad taste if he actually is manic depressive. Sheesh, this skews things a bit differently.
edit: Bad taste if he actually is manic depressive. Sheesh, this skews things a bit differently.
N4G: http://n4g.com/news/1320645/phil-fish-locks-twitter-account-fez-ii-cancelled
Shit is getting real
Shit is getting real
funny
Luke Plunkett asked if Kamiya read the article Kotaku posted about him not understanding PC gaming and then using that to once again make gross generalizations about those wacky backwards Japaneses and their panty dispensers and ignorance about anything that isn't a JRPG on a handheld (based on like two words in a tweet) and Kamiya responded by asking if Plunkett eats shit.
And that's still an open question.
^^^
Aren't you that clown who is always in those Kamiya twitter threads talking about how he's just misunderstood and totally not a moron?
And he's the first developer to be asked inane questions over twitter? Don't be an idiot
Aren't you that clown who is always in those Kamiya twitter threads talking about how he's just misunderstood and totally not a moron?
He gets hundreds of people asking that very thing even though he has a log at the top where he's already genuinely answered the question. Not sure what you mean by the racist remark.
And it was pretty hilarious in context.
And he's the first developer to be asked inane questions over twitter? Don't be an idiot
Kamiya doesn't throw himself a pity party every other week.
Bayonetta 2 on Wii U?
Treefingers
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So why is it ok for Kamiya to respond like that to annoying tweets and when Fish responds similarly to personal attacks it's out of line?
When you troll, you're not suppose to sob like a petulant child when people insult you.
This isn't trolling. It never was.
KingOfLimbs
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Lé Blade Runner
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I am kind of torn on this subject. On the other hand Phil Fish really makes himself look immature - he is over-reacting and throwing a tantrum upon the very industry that gave him his recognition and millions in money. Should he just cool down, take a hard look at his ( public ) behavior, and resume the production of FEZ 2? Yes. Nothing is worth shooting down the creative project you are passionate about - including possible criticism - but he is doing it out of spite. Too bad. But then again, he is - in my view - a creative genius ( FEZ is one of the best games of this generation as far as I am concerned ), and gifted artists can sometimes have infuriating personalities. Van Gogh, as a quick example, wasn't the most stable person of his time, but he had a unique, visionary style ( of painting ) that has inspired generations of artists. Picasso wasn't the most pleasant person either, but he was a revolutionary in the creative scene. This, of course, is based on what I have read, but I believe these accounts to be real. I'm not directly comparing Fish to these artists, mind you, but you get the general gist of my idea.
It is, of course, always pleasant to hear that an artist you admire ( or somebody who is very famous ) is down to earth and a good person all-around. George Clooney is an example - I actually have a friend who worked with him in a movie ( he had a small part and a few scenes with him ), and so I have first-hand account confirming what is being generally said of him: that he is a good and humble guy. Very professional, too. But it really shouldn't matter - what you see on the movie-screen or on your computer should be the only thing you criticize and / or worry about. For me, FEZ is a masterpiece, and I couldn't care less what Phil's personality is like when it comes to my enjoyment of the actual game. It's, of course, a shame to realize that there will ( probably ) be no FEZ 2 because of his temperament. But then again, it isn't my concern.
Sorry for the long-winded post, though. One tangent lead to another, and there you go.
It is, of course, always pleasant to hear that an artist you admire ( or somebody who is very famous ) is down to earth and a good person all-around. George Clooney is an example - I actually have a friend who worked with him in a movie ( he had a small part and a few scenes with him ), and so I have first-hand account confirming what is being generally said of him: that he is a good and humble guy. Very professional, too. But it really shouldn't matter - what you see on the movie-screen or on your computer should be the only thing you criticize and / or worry about. For me, FEZ is a masterpiece, and I couldn't care less what Phil's personality is like when it comes to my enjoyment of the actual game. It's, of course, a shame to realize that there will ( probably ) be no FEZ 2 because of his temperament. But then again, it isn't my concern.
Sorry for the long-winded post, though. One tangent lead to another, and there you go.
That's not what I said, and the idiot remark was uncalled for. Also for what it's worth, Kamiya did link his twitlog for the person containing the actual answer.
There's nothing particularly noteworthy about what Kamiya said. It was literally "Stop asking me questions I've already answered. Here's a link" It's not even remotely comparable to what Fish does on twitter.
He answers tons of questions on Twitter every day, which encourages more people to ask him questions. You can be sure he gets a lot more inane questions every day than Phil Fish or any other developer.
need4speed
Banned
He gets hundreds of people asking that very thing even though he has a log at the top where he's already genuinely answered the question. Not sure what you mean by the racist remark.
And it was pretty hilarious in context.
Just because he is a developer you like doesn't mean he should be immune to criticizem, and telling westerners to fuck off I say that's pretty racist
Haha, see, shit like this is why I like Phil. Assuming that he's just fed up and taking people for a ride and that Fez 2 isn't actually canceled. Would be a shame if it was, and almost unbelievable that this was the incident that pushed it over the top.
Fake canceling a highly anticipated sequel over Twitter just to mess with the Twitter journalists and rile people up is most certainly trolling.
Visualante2
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Is he though?
- 5 year development cycle
- 800 MSP instead of the usual 1200 MSP for boutique indie titles
- legal proceedings with Fish's business partner
- Trapdoor's cut
- repaying indie fund
- repaying loan to Toronto government
- Microsoft's fee to get on XBLA
- Microsoft's cut
- profits split between the team
Game sold okay on XBLA (only breaking 200k) and the PC crowd waited until it was half off. I have to wonder if he really came out that well off from this game.
I can't imagine he has any large amount of money.
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