On this date two years ago, Aziz Shavershian (Zyzz) died.

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Chittagong

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strobogo said:
An average Joe will never look like that, regardless of what extra help he's getting. All the steroids in the world aren't going to make you look like that unless you put all of your time into working out. Do people still think that taking steroids alone will make you big?
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Getting big is hard work, requires lots of discipline and research and takes a long time.
Getting big with gear is hard work, requires lots of discipline and research and might kill you.

so the difference is

spend years <---> risk dying young

I personally love life so I choose to use years to build quality physique. They say it might take 3-5 years. But then again, if you start at 21 you are huge by 25 - wish I had realised it earlier.
 
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sphinx

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one question:

is an extreme amount of acne always a guaranteed confirmation of PED usage?

there are some guys in my gym that are basically covered in acne.
 
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Funky Papa

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sphinx said:
one question:

is an extreme amount of acne always a guaranteed confirmation of PED usage?

there are some guys in my gym that are basically covered in acne.
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That would rule out natural causes, so obviously no.

But acne is one of the most common undesired effects of test cycles.
 
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sphinx said:
one question:

is an extreme amount of acne always a guaranteed confirmation of PED usage?

there are some guys in my gym that are basically covered in acne.
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Typically further on the back, it's pretty common. Especially if you have it nowhere else but there.

But see Funky's post above mine.
 
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How to become like Zyzz:

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For all you extreme Zyzz mirers out there! Guess what...

Browsed through all of Zyzz's Formspring page and took what I thought was the best info/tips/opinions/etc. It's not organized neatly by any means but all of it comes directly from Zyzz, with the vast majority coming from Formspring. You can read through his Fromspring page but this is a condensed version...still long as fuuuuaaarrrk though. The sick kunt covered a ton of stuff...

So if you wanna become the next Zyzz...read through the whole doc and you'll learn the Zyzz Lifestyle...

..if not, you'll still get some interesting tips and some lols

R.I.P. ZYZZ ~

Gone but not forgotten...

*NEW* WORKING DOWNLOAD LINK: http://www.mediafire.com/?1zohx8p8biejsox

Note to miscers: Thread may seem gay as phuuuck...but had to be done...I'll rate my organization skills 0/10 haha

Links to next three threads:
Thread #2: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post754723333
Thread #3: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...#post754726213
Thread #4: http://forum.bodybuilding.com/showth...hp?t=138307993

Epic Copy/Paste attempt (1 of 4):

-Ate bulla cottage cheese – “Skull that shyt”
-Worked out 5x a week
-Nutella and cottage cheese fav. Foods
-best exercise for shoulders – lateral raises
-favorite alcoholic drink – vodka – “because it’s the shyt”
-ideal 210 pounds, 7% body fat
-favorite workout song – I Wish It Could Last
- used hair removal cream for down there
-best chest exercise – push w/ chest, not arms and flies ftw
-fuk rock and metal. unless im doing heavy deadlifts and need fuked up music to make me rage
-shave face once/twice a week and chest once a month
-what do u think about weighted lunges – “Awesome Shyt”
- ever lose motivation? – “A few times, but its important to stay consistent...many people give up after losing motivation, but if you keep training even when you cbf you will get to where you want. and its all worth it in the end”
-cutting tips – keto keto keto
- is Jack3d good – “it’s amazing, bet supp you can get”
- pets – Labrador and cat
- why started gym – “because i remember going out with a girl when i was skinny and 16, and she kept looking at other guys with good bodies, so i was like, ill show you one day....its the best feeling when they see you now and they are all over you and you tell them to fuk off. sorry bitch”
- special supps – 1mr and Jack3d
- How to get bishes? – “stop trying to get bitches for one. i dont remember the last time i actually tried to pick up a girl. that makes you look like a sad****.”
- squat 308 pounds at ~21
-31 waist 6"1 17 arms 17 neck 92kg at ~21
-bench 286 lbs at ~21
-fav. Jersey shore character – the Situation
- pluck own eyebrows
-fav. Movies – inception
- hair removal cream for legs and cocoa butter for face/body
-recommend noob gym goer start with SS or Rippetoes not a split routine
- manlet
-hair color, blonde and brunnete...eyes, dont mind..as long as they are big and beautiful. bodytype....petite with shape!
-said Deadmau5 were sellouts
Aesthetic - the alpha way to say beautiful.
-workout training schedule? :go with how your body feels. fuk schedules.”
-fears? growing old and living out a boring life of monotony
-abs- deadlifts and squats..serious
-ever approach a girl? never, unless just to talk to them about something. im not the "let pick up" type...i was when i was 18 though
-best back exercise - one armed lat pulldowns
-how become alpha- disregard females. acquire aesthetics
-mass gainers – GNC kunt..anything really
-cell tech ideal to take for 12 weeks
-stretch marks – bio oil and coca butter
-hair spray over hair gel
-best food for mass gain – lentils
Shoes – rabens, tigers, lacoste, nikes
-hair removal brand – Veet for Men
-BCAA’s? - XTEND from xcviation
-tan once/twice a week
-single, relationships are for phags
-i love who i am. i hate boring people and serious people. learn to laugh at yourself phaggots
Hair? - 1. shower
2. let it dry
3. straighten it
4. matte clay
5. hairspray
6. FUARRRK thats sexy
- Confidence? - stop giving a fuk what girls think and say whatever the fuk you want to say and do whatever you want to do.
-eyebrows? - haha. only clean the middle and messy kunt up, dont try to shape your eyebrows cause itll look ghey
-i like everyone. i get along with everyone. i dont hate anyone. lifes too short to give a fuk. relax and start pumping some house and trance and peak. FUAAARRRK!
-Cottage cheese tastes bad - gulk it with water so you dont taste it
-how big u want to get? - 18.5 inch arms with a 31 waist
-says pre-workout supps over creatine
-hair product u use - Terra from landoll
-Abs on a skinny guy is like a fat bitch with big tits- it doesn't count.
-1mr feels like fuking pill comedown. jack3d is somewhat cleaner so i prefer jack3d
-food shopping - 3 times a week. i spend around 100-150 a week on food. its fuking annoying but has to be done
-i did bicep curls like everyone else till i did some proper research, started training legs and doing compounds. thats when i saw my gains
-build lean muscle - amino acids during workout, isolate post workout, and protein blends during the day
-Polanight. use it at night strongest strength. teeth go white as phuck
-bulking up - pizza, maccas, kebabs. i didnt put on fat so i was fine. if you put on fat, eat oats, brown rice, wholemeal pasta, chicken, etc
-it was a gradual process. i remember going to a rave when i was 17 and seeing girls all over these ripped guys, thinking fuk they have it good. then started training, you stop giving a fuk about girls and grow a passion for it because you love it. If you dont enjoy it and you want to do it just for the end result, might as well give up, because you wont be consistent.

ive seen many fall. ive been training 5 days a week for the last 4 years, whether or not i go on holiday, am sick, injured, etc. no excuses
-avg. training session - it varies, usually 1.5 hours
-how long u take to get peak aesthetics - 3 years
-sample clean bulk day - 1- oatmeal and protein shake
2. brown rice and chicken
3. tuna and pasta
4. weight gainer
5. brown rice and salmon
6. pwo shake
7. steak and potato
-palmers cocoa butter
-i change excercises everyworkout depending on how i feel.
-Rangas b4 gangas
-supps u use? - Poloquin products-
>Magnesium
>Zinc
>Ultra HCL
>Methylator support
>Muti-vitamin intense (iron free)
>topical magnesium before bed

Proteins-
>Internation protein synergy 5. Morning, during the day, before bed
>proteindirect.com whey protein isolate post workout


other
>Xtend amino acids during workout
>Dialene 4 fat burner by Sciavation
>12 fish oil caps a day
>jack3d preworkout,, or 1mr

-don’t give a fuk what any1 thinks of my attitude – “life is much more interesting and fun when you have that attitude. if you spend all your time caring about what every little ***got thinks of you, you're a sad ****.”

-Disregard dignity; Aquire lols

-only rap songs like - 2pac- hail mary. 2pac- changes. eazy e- real muthaphukkin G's 50 cent- many men

-protein blend of 5 proteins. international protein- protein synergy 5. feeds your body protein all day instead of a quick hit of isolate that you body will most likely piss most out anyway

-not italian. heaps of italian mates and been out with alot of italian girls. probs the best looking race

-can u build muscle on keto diet? - no. you need to be big already, otherwise dont waste your time

Drink when tired of water – green tea
Hair straightener? - Silver bullet
-Feels good man. When i trained i always trained to be the best, not just to have a good body. Use that mindset for motivation.
-azizstrife7777@gmail.com
-ketogenic diet is the fastest way to lose weight. what it involves is eliminating carbs from your diet, and eating only protein and fats. What happens after doing this for a few days is that your body will enter a state known as ketosis, where fat is burned instead of stored carbohydrates, and is by far the quickest way to burn fat directly. Basically the whole diet would revolve around steak, chicken, tuna, eggs, protein shakes, almonds, brocolli, etc (you can have under 50g carbs in a day, nothing over)
-won’t u feel low energy etc. - in the initial few days, yes. However, the human body is amazing to adapting to changes in its environment, and in this case, the change in diet. After just under a week, your body will stop to crave carbs like you did initially, and just used the stored fat as energy. the hard part is getting past the first few days
-Lets put it this way. You will burn more muscle doing cardio, and eating whatever, than doing the keto diet on its own with no cardio. you might lose a little, depending on how long you stay on though
- to look shredded- Carb deplete for a week, then load a day or two, eating pancakes and maple syrup all day. The result = looking full and shredded and this peak condition can be maintained for a day or two
-connected to above part ^ - keep it under 50 grams, main source being green vegetables like broccoli /day
-everyone has uneven muscles, its is extremely rare for perfect symmetry. Dont worry about it, it will even out and be unnotiacable to the untrained eye. To help the cause however, elimate barbells and use dumbells for everything. I dont even bench press, i dumbell press.
-Again, this shows a general misconception the greater society tends to believe in relation to how the human body works. Eating fat does not make you fat. Fats are essential for human survival, wheras carbohydrates are not. Cavemen used to survive on a diet of only meat. There was no such thing as obesity back then, and neither were there carbohydrates as we know them today. Coincidence? Believe it or not, You will lose more fat eating Maccas meat patties all day (full of protein and fat), than a diet that has bread, wholegrains, pasta and rice in it.

Im not advocating which one is healthier, but in terms of which one will make you lose fat more, it would definately be NO
CARBS MODERARATE FAT AND PROTEIN, opposed to HIGH CARBS, LOW FAT! This is because after the body is depleted of carbs, it used the bodies fat stores as fuel
-Im actually a very nice person. I give everyone the time of day, not a staunch ****, and just like to have fun and entertain people.. Notice how i never hate on anyone, life is too short to give a fuk or take anything to heart
-normally i eat like anyone else carbs, protein, and train as normal. But when i want to look in peak condition, i do the keto diet at most for 3-4 weeks. Basically i dont have a propensity to put on body fat due to my metabolism, so i can get away with it, other people may need to implement more rigorous dieting and lengths of time on keto
-how to carb deplete - Eliminate bread, pasta, rice, grains, completely. Supplement yourself with a multivitamin, fish oil, magnesium, and zinc to make sure your body is still receiving adequate nutrients.

For breakfast-
1. Egg omelete, and bacon. Take 3 fish oils, a multivitamin after
2. Protein shake (no/little carbs)
3. Steak and brocolli
4. Tuna and spinach
5.cottage cheese
6. protein shake before bed

-bulk with carbs mate, keto is for fat loss. just keep the carbs clean- oatmeal, grains, brown rice only.


-Yes. i always feel i have to train and diet my hardest now because i have a look/image to live up to. People talk and already have high expectations from what they hear about me, so i would never let myself look sloppy. If anything, all this has made me want to train harder, and diet more intensely. Fuk 'good enough',, perfection is my goal
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Funky Papa

FUNK-Y-PPA-4
I'm not really that well versed in PEs, but wasn't Zyzz doing some cycles that were considered wildly dangerous even by experienced bodybuilders?
 
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Snkfanatic

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Never heard of the guy till a thread here about a month or so ago. He has been cracking me up in the videos I have watched of him. RIP brah, I be mirin.
 
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andycapps

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btrboyev said:
Other than the douchie clothes, the guy looked way more healthy in the top picture than the bottom picture.
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How does a skinny kid look healthier than the much more fit version of himself? Zyzz's aesthetics were great, the problem is that he took the shortcut to get there. Doing what he did naturally is definitely possible and is healthy for you, but it's going to take a lot longer.
 
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Zyzz did more for the human race than a lot of us will do in our lives. He's inspired many people to never settle. To get up off their ass and better themselves. I'm not saying every kid who saw his transformation goes the same route - but even just a nudge, just a push out of your chair to realize your physical potential...yeah. He's an angel and worked to better himself - and in exchange, improved the human race.

Forever mirin.
 
Johnny Cage In The Shower

Johnny Cage In The Shower

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Madness said:
No they were Kurdish Christians who were "officially" in Armenia SSR during the Soviet Union, they moved to Russia later where Zyzz and his older brother were born. It was all the Soviet Union then so it didn't really matter if you were from Belarus, Ukraine, Kazakhstan etc. After that they moved to Australia. He once described himself as an Iraqi Christian basically.
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I got you thanks for the explanation. His dad may have been half Armenian though, since his last name is clearly Armenian.


Also need to email the creator's of this show and ask if they got the inspiration for thiw character from this dude.
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vas_a_morir

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ThisWreckage said:
Before the decomposition, he had the best looking body of anyone in the cemetery.
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Decomposition? How the fuck does that happen on Mt. Olympus, brah?

Btw, you know that "U Mirin Jow brah" video? Does he realize that he comes off the way he comes off in that video? Like, that perhaps making smoochy faces and posing while saying 'brah' gives off the wrong signals to women? Also, the Donkey Kong Country 2 -sounding music cracked me up.
 
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ThisWreckage

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I don't buy that he had some sort of undiagnosed heart condition. People draw inspiration from the oddest choices. It would have been different if he worked hard and achieved a fantastic physique while maintaining a great outlook on life while remaining humble. But his ego spiraled out of control and as his body swelled so did his head. I understand why so many people adopted this guy as a role model, but his premature death is proof that he was a doping moron with self esteem issues that chased an impossible ideal.
 
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Host Samurai

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AShep said:
Except when he was denouncing all women as sluts and treating them like sub-human trash right?
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Just like they did to him while he was a skinny nerd. His girlfriend was always checking out the buff guys and broke up with him before his transformation.
 
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vas_a_morir

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ThisWreckage said:
Two wrongs don't make a right. He essentially became what he hated.
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My friend who reminded me of Zyzz also got buff for revenge against his ex. He put being huge over being healthy, too. Revenge not a healthy motivator, but I'd be lying if I said it doesn't motivate you.
 
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Kentpaul

When keepin it real goes wrong. Very, very wrong.
sphinx said:
one question:

is an extreme amount of acne always a guaranteed confirmation of PED usage?

there are some guys in my gym that are basically covered in acne.
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People with bad acne lift to increase self confidence.
 
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ThisWreckage

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And getting in shape is better than trying to look like Arnie. All of the current fashion trends are trending toward slim fit clothing and skinny clothing. That's what is in right now. I'm not saying that you should be a bean pole, but being in normal shape is better than being a behemoth in my eyes.
 
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Karkador

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Host Samurai said:
Just like they did to him while he was a skinny nerd. His girlfriend was always checking out the buff guys and broke up with him before his transformation.
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He was 16 years old when that happened to him, the girl was likely the same age or younger. That's the type of relationship maturity these guys are operating under?
 
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Y'all will do anything to knock down a true legend.
 
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agrajag

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ThisWreckage said:
I don't buy that he had some sort of undiagnosed heart condition. People draw inspiration from the oddest choices. It would have been different if he worked hard and achieved a fantastic physique while maintaining a great outlook on life while remaining humble. But his ego spiraled out of control and as his body swelled so did his head. I understand why so many people adopted this guy as a role model, but his premature death is proof that he was a doping moron with self esteem issues that chased an impossible ideal.
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Umm, pro body builders do as much if not way more roids than he did and don't die in their early 20's. He most likely did have a heart condition.
 
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Zaptruder

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agrajag said:
why, they're funny. And mostly confined to lifting threads/forums, I don't know how they could be that much of a nuisance to anyone.
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Just reading this thread is enough to make me roll my eyes into the back of my head and get a good view of my brain. It's enough damage.
 
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agrajag

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Zaptruder said:
Just reading this thread is enough to make me roll my eyes into the back of my head and get a good view of my brain. It's enough damage.
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Yeah, but this is a Zyzz thread. He's a meme at this point, that's his legacy. That's like going to a LOLcats thread and complaining at how cat memes annoy you. I understand if you don't like the Zyzz/lifting brah comics and if they annoy you, but it's not like they're being forced on you from every direction.
 
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Sunflower said:
Zyzz did more for the human race than a lot of us will do in our lives. He's inspired many people to never settle. To get up off their ass and better themselves. I'm not saying every kid who saw his transformation goes the same route - but even just a nudge, just a push out of your chair to realize your physical potential...yeah. He's an angel and worked to better himself - and in exchange, improved the human race.

Forever mirin.
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So he didn't use 'roids?
 
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agrajag said:
Umm, pro body builders do as much if not way more roids than he did and don't die in their early 20's. He most likely did have a heart condition.
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I doubt zyzz's death had anything to do with his steroid use. Probably a combination of having a heart condition + using cocaine + being on thermogenics all the time + being in a sauna.
 
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Liquidsnake

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Sunflower said:
Zyzz did more for the human race than a lot of us will do in our lives. He's inspired many people to never settle. To get up off their ass and better themselves. I'm not saying every kid who saw his transformation goes the same route - but even just a nudge, just a push out of your chair to realize your physical potential...yeah. He's an angel and worked to better himself - and in exchange, improved the human race.

Forever mirin.
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Wow Sunflower.
 
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SpaceBridge

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As someone who just training for about 6 months learning that a buff body is rarely attainable without steroids is disheartening.

Also, wtf is this he wrote about curls not being good bicep building exercise?
 
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SkepticalPanda

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I have friends who idolize this guy. I can see why. People always bash Zyzz for the fact that he used drugs, for the fact that he was arrogant or for whatever reason. At the end of the day, Zyzz could afford to be arrogant. He was part of a minority who spent their days on their computers, playing games. He decided to turn his life around and inspire thousands around the world to do the same. I respect this guy a lot after hearing his story.

RIP Zyzz.
 
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Eidan

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I've said this before, but I feel Zyzz's appeal was largely with young men who still hold a grudge about being overlooked by women in middle and high school.
 
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Seeds

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For those who feel inspired, this might be of help;

"tren Ace &#8211; 150mg every day for 12-14 weeks
test Prop &#8211; 150mg every day for 14-16 weeks
T3 (Cytomel) &#8211; 25mcg twice a day all cycle
clen &#8211; 80mcg every day, two weeks on and two weeks off &#8211; all cycle"

And remember, while this seems like a lot, even for pro body builders, he died because of a heart condition. </sarcasm>
 
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