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Pacific Rim |OT| Apocalypse Never

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XiaNaphryz said:
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The movie has passed 290 million at the box office and it's yet to debute in Japan!

A sequel anyone?

Or just another movie from G.D.T with huge robots and monsters in it.
 
Diggeh said:
Anyone know some good figure stands? Gypsy trips, Crimson crashes, and Knifehead...uh...falls. Maybe those waist clip things?
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I use these things for figures that don't want to stand on their own or are top heavy:
http://www.amazon.com/Metal-Doll-Stand-Dolls-Inches/dp/B000MBDKKE

Stores like Michaels and AC Moore carry them in store, in the doll section. I used them for McFarlane figures and the Watchmen movie figures, so they should be good for the Pacific Rim ones.
 
SJRB said:
"Crap cg", he says.

Low-tier trolling right there.
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That's how you know it's a worthless comment from someone just fishing for reactions, so we should ignore it. Not liking or even hating parts or the whole movie I can understand. Feeling the action was badly framed, not interesting enough, etc. I disagree with, but I can accept.

Not even seeing the merits of the top tier CG work in itself is just pure trolling.
 
loganclaws said:
I went to see this yesterday with my brother and holy crap Gaf! This thing was atrocious! Horrible acting and I mean seriously bottom tier crap, stupid meaningless plot that goes nowhere from start to finish, crap cg.

We couldn't help but start laughing at some of the "acting" scenes and so did most of the audience! The whole thing was a giant cliche!

We actually had a lot more fun after the movie finally ended making jokes about how we wasted two hours of our lives that could've been spent doing various extremely lame and pointless activities!
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I agree on the acting which was bad but it was the same guy who made Hellboy which also had some terrible acting but the action scenes were good tho.
 
inky said:
That's how you know it's a worthless comment from someone just fishing for reactions, so we should ignore it. Not liking or even hating parts or the whole movie I can understand. Feeling the action was badly framed, not interesting enough, etc. I disagree with, but I can accept.

Not even seeing the merits of the top tier CG work in itself is just pure trolling.
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Ok it wasn't crap per se, but it was nothing I haven't seen before. It wasn't enough to carry the movie. Happy? I mean are you telling me that you love this movie because it has such good CG to the point that it made you ignore all it's faults? Corny acting, snail pace, silly plot devices, cliches everywhere. If that is the case then I weep for your low cinema standards.
 
Movie of the year. Saw it three times. The CG was fantastic. ILM did a fantastic job at it and the little details in all the gears and whatnot were fantastic. The acting was great I thought, since I compared it to how good I can act, which isn't good at all. The set pieces were awesome, really loved the colors that we got out of the hong Kong scene. Cannot wait for the second one.
 
JCX said:
They should have elaborated on it more in the film, but from the novelization
No Kaiju had attacked a wall prior to Sydney scene shown in the film, so they thought it would work.
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LOL that has to be the stupidest thing I've ever read. As if somehow the Kaiju were looking at the wall and going "O_o".
 
loganclaws said:
I went to see this yesterday with my brother and holy crap Gaf! This thing was atrocious! Horrible acting and I mean seriously bottom tier crap, stupid meaningless plot that goes nowhere from start to finish, crap cg.

We couldn't help but start laughing at some of the "acting" scenes and so did most of the audience! The whole thing was a giant cliche!

We actually had a lot more fun after the movie finally ended making jokes about how we wasted two hours of our lives that could've been spent doing various extremely lame and pointless activities!
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You have no soul and you're dead inside. :(
 
InfectedZero said:
Movie of the year. Saw it three times. The CG was fantastic. ILM did a fantastic job at it and the little details in all the gears and whatnot were fantastic. The acting was great I thought, since I compared it to how good I can act, which isn't good at all. The set pieces were awesome, really loved the colors that we got out of the hong Kong scene. Cannot wait for the second one.
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Haha, that's like a plastic surgeon fucking up your face and you saying well the surgery went well since I compared the doctor's skills to my surgeon skills and I would've done a worse job.
 
loganclaws said:
I assume you are into mechs and giant robots? For someone who is indifferent or not in LOVE with robo-porn, explain to me why this movie is good and I will provide a rebuttal for your points.
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Go read the 160ish positive critic reviews instead and realize that you are in the minority of people who disliked the movie (which is ok) and stop trying to get a rise out of people.
 
loganclaws said:
I assume you are into mechs and giant robots? For someone who is indifferent or not in LOVE with robo-porn, explain to me why this movie is good and I will provide a rebuttal for your points.
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It is fun with amazing action, CG, and set pieces. Sorry you got a stick up your bum.
 
pxleyes said:
It is fun with amazing action, CG, and set pieces. Sorry you got a stick up your bum.
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Also, it's dumb and cheesy and is totally self aware so it just goes whole hog with it (like, for instance, casting Charlie as the expert scientist). Seriously loganclaws, not all movies need to be Oscar winning best actor bait. Sometimes you need a movie that is just fun to watch and isn't straight up insulting like the Transformers movies.
 
loganclaws said:
Ok it wasn't crap per se, but it was nothing I haven't seen before. It wasn't enough to carry the movie. Happy? I mean are you telling me that you love this movie because it has such good CG to the point that it made you ignore all it's faults? Corny acting, snail pace, silly plot devices, cliches everywhere. If that is the case then I weep for your low cinema standards.
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You don't need to weep for my anything. My standards are fine because I am collected enough to appreciate a movie for what it is, the same way I can appreciate a variety of movies from very diverse genres, with different tones and done by different filmmakers for what they are, and not judge them all on a knee jerk reaction scale. I'm glad you have a set of unbreakable standards with which you judge all films equally, I do not.

The CG didn't make me ignore the movie's faults, but I could appreciate a lot of it to the point that it was a very enjoyable movie-going experience, fake accents and all. Things like the concept of the universe, the awesome designs, the camerawork, the great mix of practical effects and CG, the quirkiness of a few of the characters, the fantastic flashback scene, the sound design and even some of the music tracks are all things that combined well on screen and kept me entertained in a way other popcorn munching movies have not in a while. I also happen to like Guillermo del Toro a lot, and feel he is a great filmmaker, with a strong and interesting visual style so I'm glad he got to make this.

This movie -warts and all- was a great ride, one my 12 year old self would've fall in love with. That people can't appreciate a lot of what it did right is pretty damn sad and makes me weep for the rest of you, and what you consider fun.
 
I saw this yesterday...I LOVED this movie.

I loved that it was unabashed in its influences. I loved that it reveled in giant robots vs. giant monsters. I loved that sometimes the dialogue/acting was cheesy (it's a movie about giant robots vs. giant monsters - you're a fool/trying too hard if you were looking for excellent dramatic acting like it's not a movie about giant robots vs. giant monsters). I loved the fact that it was able to reel back from its influences just enough to welcome everyone possible to enjoying the movie - like, it could've been some crazy anime-esque film with transformation sequences and special moves and fancy poses and combining robots and the power of love...but it wasn't. I could sit and go into plot flaws and pseudo-science issues like this was MST3K, but the movie was too exciting and fun to watch for it to be about that. This film didn't shy away from being a movie about giant robots vs. giant monsters, so why be a stick in the mud about it?

I wish I got to see it on opening day, so I could've seen it with a hyped-up crowd. I was so hyped, my girlfriend had to tell me to relax. And even she lost her shit several times.

Can't wait for the sequel...I'm afraid that they're going to try to overcomplicate it for snobs, though. :(
 
My brother, who lives in Beijing, went to see this over the weekend, and he said that the Chinese government has edited the movie to remove references to Japan and dub over some of Mako's line. He also said that the film felt poorly edited and he wouldn't be surprised if 10-15m had been cut from the film by the government. Anyone got any info about this?
 
twofold said:
My brother, who lives in Beijing, went to see this over the weekend, and he said that the Chinese government has edited the movie to remove references to Japan and dub over some of Mako's line. He also said that the film felt poorly edited and he wouldn't be surprised if 10-15m had been cut from the film by the government. Anyone got any info about this?
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That's normal for foreign governments to edit films? I mean, just the rating classifications alone differ from country to country, so they're always going to have edits. Doing so to remove politically offensive materials is also pretty common.
 
jaxword said:
That's normal for foreign governments to edit films? I mean, just the rating classifications alone differ from country to country, so they're always going to have edits. Doing so to remove politically offensive materials is also pretty common.
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Yeah, I know. China, in particular, has a habit of doing this. I just want to know if there's a list of the differences anywhere.
 
loganclaws, you know why you get all the hate, right?

We can all have different taste regarding plot, set peices etc etc... but when you state "horrible cg" you are just plain wrong.

Enough to carry a movie? No, but to state that is pure trolling and/or hyberbole.
 
inky said:
You don't need to weep for my anything. My standards are fine because I am collected enough to appreciate a movie for what it is, the same way I can appreciate a variety of movies from very diverse genres, with different tones and done by different filmmakers for what they are, and not judge them all on a knee jerk reaction scale. I'm glad you have a set of unbreakable standards with which you judge all films equally, I do not.

The CG didn't make me ignore the movie's faults, but I could appreciate a lot of it to the point that it was a very enjoyable movie-going experience, fake accents and all. Things like the concept of the universe, the awesome designs, the camerawork, the great mix of practical effects and CG, the quirkiness of a few of the characters, the fantastic flashback scene, the sound design and even some of the music tracks are all things that combined well on screen and kept me entertained in a way other popcorn munching movies have not in a while. I also happen to like Guillermo del Toro a lot, and feel he is a great filmmaker, with a strong and interesting visual style so I'm glad he got to make this.

This movie -warts and all- was a great ride, one my 12 year old self would've fall in love with. That people can't appreciate a lot of what it did right is pretty damn sad and makes me weep for the rest of you, and what you consider fun.
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That's great, saying "I can appreciate a movie for what it is" can apply pretty much to any movie and serves as a way to negate any criticism. And then you say "and not judge them all on a knee jerk reaction scale", it's a movie, you watch the darn thing and then you analyse the experience and draw conclusions, what knee jerk reaction are you talking about? A knee jerk reaction would be me getting up and leaving the cinema 5 minutes after the movie starts.

I'm glad you enjoyed the "quirkiness of a few of the characters" (read: one dimensional, stereotypical cardboard cut-outs) among all the other stuff you mention and I understand that your 12 year old self would've loved it because 12 year old boys don't know shit about complex plot development, pacing, or good acting and love giant robots. But you're not 12 years old and neither am I, the 30 year old me was not impressed. Maybe I'm not the target audience.
 
fanboi said:
loganclaws, you know why you get all the hate, right?

We can all have different taste regarding plot, set peices etc etc... but when you state "horrible cg" you are just plain wrong.

Enough to carry a movie? No, but to state that is pure trolling and/or hyberbole.
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Yes you're right. I was really in shock at how much positive praise it's getting that's all. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. And I honestly wasn't that impressed with the CG either. *shrug*
 
JCX said:
I can"t hate on people who dislike PR because I like it for many of the reasons that they don;t.

- cheesy anime dialogue
- Gigantic robot suit up sequence
- skipping the origin story and jumping right into the action
- Wacky scientist/side character subplot


All are completely valid reasons to hate the movie, but I love PR because of them.
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I'm with you. The OOT scientists would have been terrible if player straight.

The only false note for me was Perlman. He didn't quite sell the role.
 
loganclaws said:
That's great, saying "I can appreciate a movie for what it is" can apply pretty much to any movie and serves as a way to negate any criticism. And then you say "and not judge them all on a knee jerk reaction scale", it's a movie, you watch the darn thing and then you analyse the experience and draw conclusions, what knee jerk reaction are you talking about? A knee jerk reaction would be me getting up and leaving the cinema 5 minutes after the movie starts.
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I don't negate criticism, I accept it and understand it. I even have some myself. Saying "crap CG" or "This movie is being hyped too much, so I'm going to be very negative about it in GAF to offset it" is not criticism, it is a childish knee jerk reaction because you didn't like the movie. That is what you are doing and why no one takes you seriously. You aren't analyzing shit.

I'm glad you enjoyed the "quirkiness of a few of the characters" (read: one dimensional, stereotypical cardboard cut-outs) among all the other stuff you mention and I understand that your 12 year old self would've loved it because 12 year old boys don't know shit about complex plot development, pacing, or good acting and love giant robots. But you're not 12 years old and neither am I, the 30 year old me was not impressed. Maybe I'm not the target audience.
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You definitely are not the target audience and sucks for you that you wasted your time with it, because if you think being 30 suddenly makes you too mature to appreciate the simplicity in some things means maybe you are not as mature as you think. "Complex plot development" is not a thing this movie was going for, and it shows, for better AND worse. The idea was to take those very simple elements and put them together as an homage/representation of a genre. I wasn't bothered by the simple plot or characters with very few moving parts because 1) this movie wasn't going for them (I knew that beforehand, that was the intention by the director at all times) so there is no pretense or cynicism about that, 2) they were played completely straight, aware of the universe they live in and they were just used as a setup to show giant monsters beating giant robots in great, nicely paced action sequences. Things I wanted to see, and I got to see in great CG detail.
 
loganclaws said:
Yes you're right. I was really in shock at how much positive praise it's getting that's all. Everyone is entitled to an opinion. And I honestly wasn't that impressed with the CG either. *shrug*
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Ok I'll bite on your responses and ask you this, based off of what you read here on Gaf what were your expectations? Because if you had been been keeping up with the thread, there have been a fair amount of posters stating what you have just said. And if this movie didn't movie didn't impress you with its CG, how could it have been better because its already been stated that the CG is pretty ground breaking and hadn't been used before.
 
inky said:
I don't negate criticism, I accept it and understand it. I even have some myself. Saying "crap CG" or "This movie is being hyped too much, so I'm going to be very negative about it in GAF to offset it" is not criticism, it is a childish knee jerk reaction. That is what you are doing and what no one takes you seriously. You aren't analyzing shit.
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Oh ok if you say so! I said a lot more than the CG was crap and I elaborated on that further in my later posts. There is only one knee jerk reaction here and it is from all the people who are "hating" because someone came to this thread and gave a different opinion in a harsh tone.

inky said:
You definitely are not the target audience and sucks for you that you wasted your time with it, because if you think being 30 suddenly makes you too mature to appreciate the simplicity in some things means maybe you are not as mature as you think. "Complex plot development" is not a thing this movie was going for, and it shows, for better AND worse. The idea was to take those very simple elements and put them together as an homage/representation of a genre. I wasn't bothered by the simple plot or characters with very few moving parts because 1) this movie wasn't going for them, so there is no pretense or cynicism about that, 2) they were played completely straight, aware of the universe they live in and they were just used as a setup to show giant monsters beating giant robots in great, nicely paced action sequences. Things I wanted to see, and I got to see in great CG detail.
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I assure you that the bolded part is not true. I can definitely appreciate a good sci-fi movie or even an anime about giant robots. This movie had too many flaws that took me and the ENTIRE audience in the cinema out of the experience. There were people literally groaning during the movie.
 
Triple Oceans said:
Ok I'll bite on your responses and ask you this, based off of what you read here on Gaf what were your expectations? Because if you had been been keeping up with the thread, there have been a fair amount of posters stating what you have just said. And if this movie didn't movie didn't impress you with its CG, how could it have been better because its already been stated that the CG is pretty ground breaking and hadn't been used before.
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I wasn't keeping up with this thread past the first couple of pages to be honest.
 
loganclaws said:
I assure you that the bolded part is not true. I can definitely appreciate a good sci-fi movie or even an anime about giant robots. This movie had too many flaws that took me and the ENTIRE audience in the cinema out of the experience. There were people literally groaning during the movie.
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My wife and I were joking, when the hotshot young girl first clashes with the lead, "what are the odds they pilot together?" Her reply "100%."

It's broad, it's corny, it's cliche and it's predictable as hell. But we still enjoyed the crap out of it. I think it's like bad puns. You are either up for them, or you hate them.
 
Triple Oceans said:
Ok now your response towards the movie makes more sense. Well sounds like Gaf really didn't let you down but instead you weren't thorough enough to see what you were getting yourself into.
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Yah, I mean, I'm not blaming Gaf for misleading me or anything. I was just shocked that it is getting such positive buzz.
 
Am I the only one who busted out laughing when Newt comes back to Hannibal Chau, "Guess who's back you one eyed bitch!"

The delivery was gold.
 
Triple Oceans said:
And if this movie didn't movie didn't impress you with its CG, how could it have been better because its already been stated that the CG is pretty ground breaking and hadn't been used before.
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I'm curious about what he has to answer to this... Also if we could have some example of crap CGI.
 
I don't see how anyone who witnessed the "cats are in the apocalypse" trailer(s) would scoff at being sold a bill of goods they didn't expect. The dialog was clearly presented as Saturday morning cartoon/old monster movie fare, and that's exactly what was delivered.
 
Ignatz Mouse said:
My wife and I were joking, when the hotshot young girl first clashes with the lead, "what are the odds they pilot together?" Her reply "100%."

It's broad, it's corny, it's cliche and it's predictable as hell. But we still enjoyed the crap out of it. I think it's like bad puns. You are either up for them, or you hate them.
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What about that whole scene at their dorms which ends up with her peeking at him through the door? That was so so bad the audience erupted in laughter, and not in a good way.
 
loganclaws said:
I assure you that the bolded part is not true. I can definitely appreciate a good sci-fi movie or even an anime about giant robots. This movie had too many flaws that took me and the ENTIRE audience in the cinema out of the experience. There were people literally groaning during the movie.
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And my entire theater audience loved it and had a great time, laughed and cheered. What has that have to do with anything? If you are judging general audience reactions there are reviews and scores that will prove you right or wrong depending on which you pick. Good for you I guess? General reception is mostly positive.

It's fine if you didn't like it, it is a flawed movie and it wasn't for you. The way you are conducting yourself here is the groan worthy part, and pretending that one liking this movie suddenly means he has lower standards and that you can counter every positive argument about it (like you taunted that other poster about) is laughable, which means you are only here to rile people up and not to talk about a movie you didn't like or have a "harsh opinion".

I'll stop humoring you now, there's bets I need to make.
 
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