Breaking Bad - Season 5, Part 2 - The Final Eight Episodes - Sundays on AMC

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Thoughts on "Future Walt" and the
ricin:

Walt told Hank that due to cancer he's a "dead man", and will "never see the inside of a prison cell".

What if Walt intends to use the ricin on himself? So he dies of "natural causes"?
 
There's absolutely no possible way Jesse finds out about Jane unless Walt tells him, right?

Pretty much. There is nothing to find out. She did overdose, Walt just didn't do anything when he could have. Brock? Maybe without Walt admitting it, but it's highly unlikely. Mike...
if they find a body and publicize it, game over. Jesse already thinks Walt did it. 5-0 finding his body would seal the deal.
 
I don't think Jesse gives two shits about anything, not to mention finger prints.
Not to mention who is going to call in the money? He drove through a poor area throwing cash. Does anyone honestly believe any of those people would call the police?

At worst his figure prints will be on what? 2 bills per stack? Never saw him sifting through it, just grabbing a stack and throwing it. So let's say they do pull his prints then what? It's all circumstantial.
 
At this point I am convinced you're joking.

nah im really upset at hank

what does he expect walt to do just put his hands up?

he's out of the game and he's steadily trying to put a close to his position, walt was legit out

there really is no point in arresting walt now, especially with the health of their family considered

hanks doing this shit for a goddamn medal

he's gonna force walt back in the game and he's gonna regret it
 
Pretty much. There is nothing to find out. She did overdose, Walt just didn't do anything when he could have. Brock? Maybe without Walt admitting it, but it's highly unlikely. Mike...
if they find a body and publicize it, game over. Jesse already thinks Walt did it. 5-0 finding his body would seal the deal.

I think your spoiler happens. Jesse needs a purpose.
 
Honesty i wouldn't mind a Shield'esq ending.

I'll wrap a spoiler tag around this whole thing so it doesn't spoil The Shield for anyone.
Like The Shield ending, i want Walter to get away with it all. Rather it be as a free man that can't go to prison for his crimes or that he has to run for the rest of his life but instead of his family living i want them to die. Why? Because this whole thing started to take care of his family, much like the shield. Everything was for them, they are the only people he cares about to kill them all off and force him to have to live with that for the rest of his life is a perfect ending to me. You can't get more perfect than him having to live and deal with the fact that its his fault for his families death. Everything he did was for nothing

That would be the only truly satisfying ending for me. Killing him off is boring and highly unoriginal. I would rather them take a more creative approach. What? Have his son kill him? Wife? Hank? snooze. Cancer? Oh, how ironic would that be *eyeroll*. Maybe i just expect more and that's fine because at the end of the day nobody will truly be happy with how these final 8 episodes go. It's Sopranos all over again. You can kill him, let him live or turn to black because no matter what way you go there will be a million people completely shitting on the ending and i hope they nail the perfect finale. It's almost impossible to do and to me only 2 shows did it right. The Shield and Six Feet Under.

yeah that how I want the show to end too, it really the only ending that I like
 
re-watching the Hank and Walt scene and all I can think about...

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vw7UDhUOsTQ&feature=youtu.be&t=58s
 
Where do you rank Jesse selling meth in rehab and kicking his own friends off the wagon?

Pretty fucking poorly, obviously. This show is filled with people at various points on the moral scale, people who have allowed their moral compasse to degrade to such a degree that they don't even know who they are anymore. Jesse's relationship with Walt did this, but he has to take responsibility for his part.

But what does separate Jesse from some of the worst people on the show is his conscience. He is destroyed from guilt. He is, then, a weak man who has done evil things, as opposed to someone who actually lacks a conscience ala Walt. But like Walt, I do believe Jesse has to pay the bridge toll and try to redeem himself. For Jesse, I think that might be turning informant on Walt. Won't erase his sins, but maybe then he could live with himself.

In a show, it doesn't matter. It's not really happening. It's like people celebrating Walt getting cancer again. It's just a show, and the reactions are all in context. No one really wants to poison a child, but in this show, it was gonna help the character escape. It's just like the rationalizing of Todd killing that kid. It was a horrible thing to do, but given the predicament the group was in, it was understandable.

Bad actions can be justified for bad people. We can suspend reality for the duration of the show and get absorbed into the character. In that position, I see a lot "right" with what Walt's done. You can't get into the hard drug game and not expect to kill a few people, children included. Reprehensible in real life, but makes Walt such a likably evil character. PEACE.

If a drug kingpin realizes a ten year old kid is going to rat him out unless he kills him, the action of killing that ten year old is "justified" for that bad individual. But the action itself can never be justified - it's inherently wrong. No one would sit around actually defending the fact that it's always wrong to kill a kid.

Just because a work of fiction is fiction doesn't mean everyone shuts their brain down and pretends there isn't a very intelligent line of moral interpretation a viewer can do. If a viewer sits around all day and hopes Walt wins the meth business and kills Skyler because she's a talkity bitch and defends the fact that he poisoned a child, the only conclusion is that that viewer has something fundamentally wrong with them. Using the excuse that it's 'just a show' is just a way to say you're shutting your brain down and refusing to critically analyze the stuff you're watching and defending.

Which is fine, but then you have to excuse me for being slightly incredulous at the idea that these are serious opinions from this side who is shutting off their thought process. If it's "just a show" and these people have no intention of actually evaluating what the show is saying and what these characters are doing, that's on them, but they have to expect pushback from those of us who don't do that when they say crazy things like defend poisoning children.

I think his true punishment will be outliving at least one member of his family.

Skyler is so dead, no doubt. Interestingly enough, I'm most fascinated to see how Walt Jr. reacts. Walt had built himself up in Jr's mind for so long... that is going to be heartbreaking
 
TALKING BAD SPECULATION

Did they just say that a secret cast member would be showing up next week? Usually they do that on Talking Dead when someone bites it. Oh boy.
 
The first time we see Jesse he is running away from the DEA. Perhaps Walt escalated it but Jesse was already headed down the road of a criminal.
You mean he already was.
Shit dude, ever heard of inviting a robbery? Riding around in seedy neighborhoods with $5mill in the passenger seat is an efficient way to get shot in the head.
Not to mention handing a wad of money to a bum, who could easily talk.

I don't blame Jesse for being in emotional stress, but he's ruining his life by not coping with it.
 
What I want, in relation to the future of the Ricin:

However he's going to use it, either as a Suicide in case deal, or to kill someone important, that it backfires because, all this time, he made the Ricin wrong. That his hubris of his infallible chemistry knowledge, went wrong way back when, and this dud has been around, causing alot of carnage by it's existence, while in the end, it's ineffective when Walt finally uses it.
 
nah im really upset at hank

what does he expect walt to do just put his hands up?

he's out of the game and he's steadily trying to put a close to his position, walt was legit out

there really is no point in arresting walt now, especially with the health of their family considered

hanks doing this shit for a goddamn medal

what
just because he's out means he shouldn't suffer any consequences of his actions? especially everything hank had to endure from his hand?
 
nah im really upset at hank

what does he expect walt to do just put his hands up?

he's out of the game and he's steadily trying to put a close to his position, walt was legit out

there really is no point in arresting walt now, especially with the health of their family considered

hanks doing this shit for a goddamn medal
Hank comes off a legitimate officer of the law that truly respects it and despises criminals.

What do you expect someone like that to do? Dozen people died because of Walt, he should brush it off because he's family by marriage? Really? I wouldn't think twice about reporting a blood relative let alone one by marriage.
 
Amirox- I was with you until you said that you can't want Walt to win unless somethings wrong with you. I can see that he's a horrible person, but part of me wants him to win. Have you never wanted a villain to win before?
 
Amirox- I was with you until you said that you can't want Walt to win unless somethings wrong with you. I can see that he's a horrible person, but part of me wants him to win. Have you never wanted a villain to win before?

Actually what I meant is if you go around justifying all his bad actions - of which I listed a bunch (like winning the meth business, poisoning a child, killing Skyler) - then the only conclusion is there is something wrong with the viewer. And by that I mean, the viewer is clearly either refusing to think about what he is watching or he simply does not understand what he is watching.

Edit: Anyway, sleep time. Man that scene between Walt and Hank was worth the year wait lol
 
What I want, in relation to the future of the Ricin:

However he's going to use it, either as a Suicide in case deal, or to kill someone important, that it backfires because, all this time, he made the Ricin wrong. That his hubris of his infallible chemistry knowledge, went wrong way back when, and this dud has been around, causing alot of carnage by it's existence, while in the end, it's ineffective when Walt finally uses it.

I like this
 
Does anyone know if theyre still uploading the Breaking Bad podcasts on Monday or is that gone now that we have Talking Bad?
I really enjoyed the podcasts.

Those should go up as normal. They were recorded concurrent to the actual filming of the episodes, so they've been in the can for months.
 
Anyone know how long it generally takes for new episodes to be added to iTunes? I'm dying over here.
I'm pretty sure it's like Amazon, so if you have work in the morning, I'd advise going to bed rather than trying to stay up. Amazon's usually go up around twelve hours or so after the episode airs.
 
Amirox- I was with you until you said that you can't want Walt to win unless somethings wrong with you. I can see that he's a horrible person, but part of me wants him to win. Have you never wanted a villain to win before?

never really understand why some people want the villain protagonist to lose. It much more fun when they win but lose everything they love in the process.
 
Actually what I meant is if you go around justifying all his bad actions - of which I listed a bunch (like winning the meth business, poisoning a child, killing Skyler) - then the only conclusion is there is something wrong with the viewer. And by that I mean, the viewer is clearly either refusing to think about what he is watching or he simply does not understand what he is watching.
Word.
 
Watching it again. Just got to the Hank and Walt scene aahghghghgh

God this shit is just so good
 
By the way, guys... I don't know how you can watch an episode like Breaking Bad with so much advertising. It kinda of takes off a bit of the flow. It was the first time I watched a live episode on american television.
 
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