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1,600-year-old goblet shows that the Romans were nanotechnology pioneers

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The colorful secret of a 1,600-year-old Roman chalice at the British Museum is the key to a super­sensitive new technology that might help diagnose human disease or pinpoint biohazards at security checkpoints.

The glass chalice, known as the Lycurgus Cup because it bears a scene involving King Lycurgus of Thrace, appears jade green when lit from the front but blood-red when lit from behind—a property that puzzled scientists for decades after the museum acquired the cup in the 1950s. The mystery wasn’t solved until 1990, when researchers in England scrutinized broken fragments under a microscope and discovered that the Roman artisans were nanotechnology pioneers: They’d impregnated the glass with particles of silver and gold, ground down until they were as small as 50 nanometers in diameter, less than one-thousandth the size of a grain of table salt. The exact mixture of the precious metals suggests the Romans knew what they were doing—“an amazing feat,” says one of the researchers, archaeologist Ian Freestone of University College London.

The ancient nanotech works something like this: When hit with light, electrons belonging to the metal flecks vibrate in ways that alter the color depending on the observer’s position. Gang Logan Liu, an engineer at the University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign, who has long focused on using nanotechnology to diagnose disease, and his colleagues realized that this effect offered untapped potential. “The Romans knew how to make and use nanoparticles for beautiful art,” Liu says. “We wanted to see if this could have scientific applications.”

When various fluids filled the cup, Liu suspected, they would change how the vibrating electrons in the glass interacted, and thus the color. (Today’s home pregnancy tests exploit a separate nano-based phenomenon to turn a white line pink.)

Since the researchers couldn’t put liquid into the precious artifact itself, they instead imprinted billions of tiny wells onto a plastic plate about the size of a postage stamp and sprayed the wells with gold or silver nanoparticles, essentially creating an array with billions of ultra-miniature Lycurgus Cups. When water, oil, sugar solutions and salt solutions were poured into the wells, they displayed a range of easy-to-distinguish colors—light green for water and red for oil, for example. The proto­type was 100 times more sensitive to altered levels of salt in solution than current commercial sensors using similar techniques. It may one day make its way into handheld devices for detecting pathogens in samples of saliva or urine, or for thwarting terrorists trying to carry dangerous liquids onto airplanes.

The original fourth-century A.D. Lycurgus Cup, probably taken out only for special occasions, depicts King Lycurgus ensnared in a tangle of grapevines, presumably for evil acts committed against Dionysus, the Greek god of wine. If inventors manage to develop a new detection tool from this ancient technology, it’ll be Lycurgus’ turn to do the ensnaring.​

Source: Smithsonian
 
It makes me wonder what other secrets died with the burning of the library at Alexandria. These guys and the Egyptians, sumbitches were smart.
 
Can you imagine being the person that discovered this? Must have looked like sorcery. I bet he got crazy amounts of ass.
 
Things like this make me wonder what future societies could lose if we were to be put into another Dark Age. The little things like this are insane to think about.
 
Wasn't sorcery kind of a burn at the stake sorta deal? Certainly it was at some point, but I don't know about Rome
I think it all depended on the culture and the current religion of that culture. Not sure about Romans either. If it was ancient Egypt, that artesian surely would've gotten all the ass he could muster.
 
This is dumbfounding, and infuriating. I can't even fathom how the Romans could have discovered this, and it raises the question of what else they knew that we don't.
 
Well, probably some alchemist playing around with gold and silver discovered it. Neat all same. Doubt they knew they were making use of nanoparticles though.
 
How could Romans even have tools to grind anything to a nanometer scale? Cautiously skeptical that they knew they were working on materials of that scale.
 
It makes me wonder what other secrets died with the burning of the library at Alexandria. These guys and the Egyptians, sumbitches were smart.

While I agree, this had nothing to do with the burning of the Library.

The Library was destroyed sometime between 48 BC during Caesar's conquest and sometime in the 200s. This cup was created in the 400s.
 
Roman technology, everyday thing 1600 years ago. Dumbfounding modern day scientists.

I think we are being trolled hard.
 
Man we barely know shit, if only Alexandria and its damn library wasn't burned, could you imagine...

Im really more interested in what they knew about pre-history, its probably more in-depth then what we know about a lot of earlier peoples and civilizations.
 
This is why I've always been fascinated with the myth of Atlantis; the idea that we are a species suffering from amnesia is enthralling to think about. Something as 'simple' as real concrete, introduced by the Romans coincidentally, hadn't been rediscovered for centuries after the Empire.

I get a kick out of reading 'alternative' history.
 
Well, probably some alchemist playing around with gold and silver discovered it. Neat all same. Doubt they knew they were making use of nanoparticles though.

It seems very deliberate and precise. At the very least, the process indicates that they understood that light behaves differently when interacting with matter at a very small scale. They were grinding metals down to an inconceivable scale to achieve a particular effect, that's as close as they could get to a concept of nanophysics with the tools and knowledge of the time.
 
The ancient greeks had a very crude steam engine, if they had worked out how to harness the energy we would probably be living on mars by now.

That last bit is very probably hyperbole.
 
The ancient greeks had a very crude steam engine, if they had worked out how to harness the energy we would probably be living on mars by now.

That's very probably hyperbole.


Once [Archimedes] shows that each slice of one figure balances each slice of the other figure, he concludes that the two figures balance each other. But the center of mass of one figure is known, and the total mass can be placed at this center and it still balances. The second figure has an unknown mass, but the position of its center of mass might be restricted to lie at a certain distance from the fulcrum by a geometrical argument, by symmetry. The condition that the two figures balance now allows him to calculate the total mass of the other figure. He considered this method as a useful heuristic but always made sure to prove the results he found using exhaustion, since the method did not provide upper and lower bounds.

Using this method, Archimedes was able to solve several problems now treated by integral calculus, which was given its modern form in the seventeenth century by Isaac Newton and Gottfried Leibniz. Among those problems were that of calculating the center of gravity of a solid hemisphere, the center of gravity of a frustum of a circular paraboloid, and the area of a region bounded by a parabola and one of its secant lines. (For explicit details, see Archimedes' use of infinitesimals.)

When rigorously proving theorems, Archimedes often used what are now called Riemann sums. In "On the Sphere and Cylinder," he gives upper and lower bounds for the surface area of a sphere by cutting the sphere into sections of equal width. He then bounds the area of each section by the area of an inscribed and circumscribed cone, which he proves have a larger and smaller area correspondingly. He adds the areas of the cones, which is a type of Riemann sum for the area of the sphere considered as a surface of revolution.

But there are two essential differences between Archimedes' method and 19th-century methods: [...]
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This is almost 2000 years before Newton and Liebniz.
 
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GAWDDAMN.

Agree with the previous posters, what kind of shit was forever lost due to library burnings and the Dark Ages.

Stuff like this and the loss of six of the seven wonders makes me really sad.

It wasn't just the Dark Ages. A lot of it was lost due to wars long before then. Normally, when a powerful civilization falls like Rome did, everything is leveled and taken by whoever happen to be there. It was the same as Egypt and Greece. Luckily, we now how the technology to store and receive all over the world and this shouldn't happen, unless aliens to actually invade.

The Romans didnt know what the fuck they were doing. They just liked the colors. What a ridiculous article. .

They may not have known the exact science behind it, but they know how chemicals and metals interacted and reacted very well.
 
What practical use could this ever have been to the Romans?

To identify poisonous liquids? I'm not seeing it

"When water, oil, sugar solutions and salt solutions were poured into the wells, they displayed a range of easy-to-distinguish colors—light green for water and red for oil, for example"

That's actually a great guess, they should test some popular poisons of the time period and see what if any colors appear.
 
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