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Vita PSN Game & Service Thread | August 2013 | Divekicks & Dragons
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NinjamicWZ
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NinjamcWZ said:
Noticed that in the dark depths of my DL list. What's up with that? I wonder if there was a possible Hell Yeah! port planned for Vita before Arkedo sadly disbanded and Sega got all hardnosed about what they'll bother with.
I don't understand what is the problem? If you download a ps3 game it shows up on your download list on the vita as well.
There is no problem.
Things that aren't available on Vita say "Cannot be downloaded using a PS Vita system."
Cross-buy stuff almost always lists a Vita game and Vita DLC as separate items. The thing of note is that Hell Yeah! isn't available for the Vita, but it's PS3 DLC is available to download on Vita, using the big "Download" button.
The Hell Yeah! DLC files do nothing once downloaded to the Vita, and can't be unpacked... only deleted.
It's the only thing in my DL history out of 1000+ items that has such an occurrence.
When did this get announced? I tweeted XSEED a while back and they told me that there still wasn't an official release date
huh? they are 9 missions, sorry if this hurt you somehow but that is a fact.
no one tested how long it take to beat them, so that that might be developers usual exaggerated like when they tell us a game is 12 hours but it fact it's a 5 hours game. same thing goes with its replay value.
Boogalogist
Member
I spent 500+ hours on MH series....but I didn't really like SS.
On a side note, I bought a 3DS XL just for MH....and now I'm done with it....the 3DS XL is languishing in my drawer.
EsotericManiac
Banned
I was excited for SS and liked the demo. After the game came out I bought it day one. I then started playing MH on the Wii U and couldn't go back to SS.
Seriously? I thought they kept pushing it back/not announcing anything concrete. November is turning out to be a great month.
DukeTogo1300
Member
This is what I do. They really made this as painful as possible. We should be getting USB 3.0 speeds if we're forced to move entire games just to backup saves.
Machinarium is worth playing if you like puzzle games, though I can't say anything about the PSV version. If you're deaf you'll have to use a guide for one of the puzzles, but if you're not it has some very nice sound design and music.
I'm looking forward to a third (!) playthrough when it is made available via PS+ (previously beat it on PC and PS3). It only takes a few hoursshort and sweet.
Huh, I didn't realize that. I just pulled it from Amazon and GameStop, which both have November 5th.
Maybe that's not the final release date, but it's very weird that both retailers would use the same "placeholder" date (and that the placeholder date isn't like, December 31st.)
I meant insinuating that 9 missions is somehow low, especially when they've made sure that there's plenty of replay value in them if you're not just in for a quick run through of the game but want a meatier experience. I'm sure you can run through the missions on easy faster than their estimate of 45-60 minutes, but that's not how a lot of people play these games.
it's not even regular USB speed, there is something with Vita and CMA encryption and decryption system so it take forever and ever just get one game on it, Sony were really paranoid of pirates that why we got this locked and painful backup system (and tiny memory size cards, and weird cables and ports and the CMA).
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
And miss all the chance to rob you blind with 50 bucks worth of costumes? Now what made you think Tecmo would want that.
Nope. There's one free costume pack but it's pretty much the same as vanilla DoA5 on consoles with some extra modes/features.
bigfunkychiken
Member
Hey does anyone know why it takes so long for Vita to back up the memory card?
It took me like 2 hours to back up my 8 gig
It took me about that long (if even) to back up my 32 gig IIRC. Maybe my memory is way off though.
Monster Hunter is to Soul Sacrifice as Serious Sam is to ARMA 2. They're both the same kind of game but play totally different.
Each chapter is 45min to 1hr long...so longer than the majority of FPS campaigns these days. And the poster you quoted knows that already, but he's blinded by pure ignorance.
Laughing Banana
Weeping Pickle
Well, it's a competent fighting game nonetheless. The DLCs are just cosmetics anyway, they don't have any impact on the gameplay itself.
I really don't believe this, developers always say this and it turn that the game is way way shorter than that, and for a handheld FPS with missions based like this ..yeah.
No, many people still got this problem, you are just lucky.
Shai-Tan
Banned
Oh ok, because it was happening 100% of the time before.
Well, you were quick to judge the game by saying it "only" had 9 missions, like that is automatically a bad thing. You don't know length or replayability of the game. We can only go by official reports, and until the contrary proves to be true, maybe you shouldn't automatically assume the worst.
Chapter 17 of NG Sigma. I hate almost all the boss fights in this. Only fun one was the Doku fight in the early chapters, the Giant Skeleton Dragon in the temple and Murai in chapter 1. Rest are tedious crap. And fuck Alma.
Game is still pretty fun though. It has taken like 10 years but I'll finally finish this game soon enough
Game is still pretty fun though. It has taken like 10 years but I'll finally finish this game soon enough
Had a fun time with this also.
Not really. They use what they know of their QA sessions as basis on what they claim. And besides, often when people are all "VANQUISH ONLY TOOK 4 HOURS!" they ignore the fact that often retries, cutscenes and stuff like that isn't counted into the completion time, so even if by the end the game clock says you "only" played 5 hours the truth might be closer to 8 or 9. And they usually say what the average completion time is for a player who doesn't just run & gun his/her way through the game on Easy, but who see some effort to explore, try some stealth etc.
You don't know and we don't know. You don't know and you think it's a bad thing, we don't know and we think it's a good thing. Sounds about right to me.
mullet2000
Member
You aren't wrong, but developers always white lie about game length. It's just standard practice. It mathematically adds up to roughly 8-9 hours based off of what they've said, but in reality it'll likely be 6-7 hours.
And really, I think a 6 hour campaign + good, solid multiplayer (like the beta has proven) is totally worth the $40 asking price. I personally have no problem with that campaign length.
It's just that I can guarantee you it won't actually be as long as they're saying it is. It never is.
It is still happening to me, about 50% of the time it locks up and I have to reset it. So ridiculous that this is still happening.
Still happens to me but a lot less frequently. Just got a 32GB card and was able to download 20 or games before it happened.
6-7 hours wouldn't be lying as they say the levels can take anywhere from 45 minutes to an hour, and I'm sure that is with a "+/- 5-10 minutes". Skillful players will probably go through the levels in that 45-50 minutes, meaning they'd probably take about 7 hours to complete the game. The thing you (and Totobeni) need to understand is that people's play styles & skills vary a fuckton. Some are very skilled and can plow through the levels with ease and play through the campaign in less time than what the devs have estimated. Some are not as skilled and/or take a more careful approach, meaning they might actually take LONGER than 60 minutes per level, meaning for them it'll have taken longer than what the devs said. Some really take their time exploring the environments (just looking at scenery or finding some collectibles) even in linear shooters like Killzone and others run through the game given little thought to stealth. Of course gameplay time varies based on the chosen difficulty level (this also ties to player skill). It's really impossible to estimate gameplay times really accurately, all they can do is give an approximate estimate based on what they've experienced during play testing. And, I mean, for a developer it might be hard to estimate it if they have been playing the game for months or even years and they know the ins and outs of it so they can probably play through their own game in 2 hours even in their sleep.
If devs say a game can take 8-10 hours and it takes 7h,15 min to me, I don't see that as lying. They do base their estimates on something (though, a lot of devs don't really like to even give any estimates because they know how much it can vary).
She's the reason why I went to Hero Mode...
Callibretto
Member
I've been buying stuff from webstore and send them to download queue to by pass the whole preparing for download problem
mullet2000
Member
That's what I mean though. That's why I called it a "white" lie. Those estimates account for (for REAL lack of a better term here) casual gamers and the like. They don't really apply to anyone like us who's a "gamer" enough to be posting on Neogaf. (God I hate the terms I'm using here) Pretty much all of us would be able to naturally complete the game more quickly than their estimate.
I'm not calling the developers "liars". It's just a little white lie that doesn't totally apply to us very accurately. I'm sure almost anyone in this thread would be hitting the 6-7 hour mark rather than an 8-9 hour mark.
That's all that I mean.
Dorimukyasuto
Member
Yeah this always works perfectly.
Hey does anyone know why it takes so long for Vita to back up the memory card?
It took me like 2 hours to back up my 8 gig
It's probably the encryption/decryption that other posters have mentioned. My advice is to just backup and restore individual games. I think that to copy over one 3 gig game from my Vita to my PC takes about 5-10 mins. So worst case, 10 mins x 3 large games = 30 mins. for about 9 gigs. A lot less than 2 hours if you do it that way. I stopped doing full card backup/restore after the first time I tried it.
My answer was perhaps more to Totobeni, you just provided me with some quotes.
Dabilahro UA spam makes most of the bosses/the game quite easy after you get it. Except Alma.
edgardavids
Member
It totally is. I seriously don't get the "it only has 9 missions" sentiment.
I enjoyed the SS demo and bought the game day one. But I got tired of it after a week and went back to MH Freedom Unite. The lack of places to explore in SS killed my interest in it. I feel like if all I want is fast-paced combat I can just go play a fighting game.
Awesome thanks. Will pick up Anthology now. Do the games have unlimited continues?
Also will check out Shock Troopers.. Looks like Commando but better. Not sure how i've missed it all this time, thought I knew most Neo Geo games.
MH has a lot of parallels with fighting games though. One of the reasons I like it a lot more than most hunting games.
That's true. MH combat is so good, on top of everything else that's great about the game. Very punishing but fair.
NinjamicWZ
Banned
Yeah, you get unlimited continues in Anthology.
I didn't know about Shock Troopers either until I got my Vita. Was browsing for youtube reviews of all sorts of PSP games that I'd missed out on (never had one), and found CGR's review for it.
I knew Shock Troopers 2 from the Neo Geo arcade cabinet that used to be at the local laundrymat, and it was ok. I could never remember the name, but my memory's been jogged since, and Shock Troopers 1 is much better all-around.