COMICS! |OT| September 2013 - Forever Evil (For A Month), IN 3D (where available)

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Thats the first time ive seen some Batwoman panels. She looks like Duela Dent.

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Messi said:
Ok guys, odd question. I want to get into weekly comics. So name me the top 5 books you are reading right now and I will give them a go if I don't already read them.

I read:
Saga
Batman
Hakeye
Batwoman(ish)
Batgirl
Miles Spiderman :P
Suicide Squad
Chew

I think thats it. I am open to all suggestions, kind of want to get into some kind of team book. Young Avengers maybe? I like Kate bishop.
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These haven't released yet but they are my most anticipated. You can start collecting them from the beginning :3

Sex Criminals (starts this month)
Velvet (starts next month)
Pretty Deadly (starts next month)
Black Science (starts in november)
 
9/11 List!

TRUE LIVES O/T FABULOUS KILLJOYS #4

ASTRO CITY #4
BATMAN #23.2 RIDDLER
BATMAN AND ROBIN #23.2 COURT OF OWLS
BATMAN THE DARK KNIGHT #23.2 MR FREEZE
DETECTIVE COMICS #23.2 HARLEY QUINN
FBP FEDERAL BUREAU OF PHYSICS #3
JUSTICE LEAGUE #23.2 LOBO
JUSTICE LEAGUE OF AMERICA #7.2 KILLER FROST

KICK-ASS 3 #3
 
I got back into comics around the middle of last month after almost a decade, and I have since spent hundreds at Comixology (a difficult decision, print vs. digital, but in the end it was the space-saving that led me to digital).

I'm currently caught up with and plan to pull monthly:

DC
Batman
Aquaman
Wonder Woman

Marvel
All-New X-Men
Uncanny X-Men
X-Men
Daredevil
Thor: God of Thunder
Hawkeye
Superior Foes of Spider-Man

Image
Lazarus
Saga
East of West
Manhattan Projects


Problem is, I'm now insatiable! I have a Marvel Unlimited subscription as well, and I'm at issue 3 of New Avengers and issue 8 of Avengers. I'm very interested in Infinity, but that means even more money to catch up to it. Is it worth it? I am a fan of Hickman's long-term storytelling (more-so when it involves known characters. I'm not completely enamored with East of West, yet, since it's all very vague at this point).

Also, I am interested in Trinity War/Forever Evil. Is it necessary to read the Justice League of America and Justice League Dark issues of Trinity War or can I just read Justice League and be good to go into Forever Evil?

I'm loving Battle of the Atom, by the way. I think I just love the idea of events, heh
 
you picked some good books to read. Trinity War was a crossover between JL/JLoA/JL Dark, so it's all or nothing. I skipped trinity war reluctantly but am going to jump into Forever Evil, which is its own mini with the JL books being tie-ins.
 
multivac said:
I got back into comics around the middle of last month after almost a decade, and I have since spent hundreds at Comixology (a difficult decision, print vs. digital, but in the end it was the space-saving that led me to digital).

I'm currently caught up with and plan to pull monthly:

DC
Batman
Aquaman
Wonder Woman

Marvel
All-New X-Men
Uncanny X-Men
X-Men
Daredevil
Thor: God of Thunder
Hawkeye
Superior Foes of Spider-Man

Image
Lazarus
Saga
East of West
Manhattan Projects


Problem is, I'm now insatiable! I have a Marvel Unlimited subscription as well, and I'm at issue 3 of New Avengers and issue 8 of Avengers. I'm very interested in Infinity, but that means even more money to catch up to it. Is it worth it? I am a fan of Hickman's long-term storytelling (more-so when it involves known characters. I'm not completely enamored with East of West, yet, since it's all very vague at this point).

Also, I am interested in Trinity War/Forever Evil. Is it necessary to read the Justice League of America and Justice League Dark issues of Trinity War or can I just read Justice League and be good to go into Forever Evil?

I'm loving Battle of the Atom, by the way. I think I just love the idea of events, heh
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What do you think about Saga?
 
Messi said:
What do you think about Saga?
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This will probably get me flamed, but I don't think it's quite as great as the common consensus suggests.

The chief problem for me is the setting, which apart from the war between the planet and its moon, is vaguely defined. It seems Vaughn is just throwing any cool thing he can think of into the stories without any clear direction or rules. For me, good world-building is key in a sci-fi title. If he has a long-term plan in place, and means to flesh out the setting as we go forward, then this complaint will go away. But, as it stands, we're a year in already and I don't have much of an understanding of the overall universe.

I also think it can be gratuitously "mature" a little too often. To me it seems more like he's going for shock value more than story advancement with so many of those moments. I have no problems with the content, it's just all the time, and with little actual impact.

The art is hands-down amazing, though, and I do very much enjoy the story and anxiously await the next issue. I just don't feel it's the magnum opus the hype suggests.
 
I've been saying since like the 3rd issue that SAGA is more art and world building than plot/story. Not a bad book, but not BKV's top work by any means.

I enjoy it, but I certainly don't think it's worth love.
 
multivac said:
This will probably get me flamed, but I don't think it's quite as great as the common consensus suggests.

The chief problem for me is the setting, which apart from the war between the planet and its moon, is vaguely defined. It seems Vaughn is just throwing any cool thing he can think of into the stories without any clear direction or rules. For me, good world-building is key in a sci-fi title. If he has a long-term plan in place, and means to flesh out the setting as we go forward, then this complaint will go away. But, as it stands, we're a year in already and I don't have much of an understanding of the overall universe.

I also think it can be gratuitously "mature" a little too often. To me it seems more like he's going for shock value more than story advancement with so many of those moments. I have no problems with the content, it's just all the time, and with little actual impact.

The art is hands-down amazing, though, and I do very much enjoy the story and anxiously await the next issue. I just don't feel it's the magnum opus the hype suggests.
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I would not flame you for having an opinion and defending your point. I can agree with the lack of world building but part of what I like is really never knowing what is coming on the next page. I seriously thought I was going to die laughing when I seen Prince Robot IV having sex with his wife and then another time when he was on the phone taking a shit.

I am glad we can both agree the art is amazing. I also love the hand written lettering of
Hazels
dialogue. I am not sure if I needed to spoiler that but it is a bit of a plot thing early on.

krypt0nian said:
I've been saying since like the 3rd issue that SAGA is more art and world building than plot/story. Not a bad book, but not BKV's top work by any means.

I enjoy it, but I certainly don't think it's worth love.
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I am sure you get this a lot, but wanted to tell you for a while. That tattoo is one of the most fantastic tattoos I have ever seen. Well done on that :P
 
Messi said:
I would not flame you for having an opinion and defending your point. I can agree with the lack of world building but part of what I like is really never knowing what is coming on the next page. I seriously thought I was going to die laughing when I seen Prince Robot IV having sex with his wife and then another time when he was on the phone taking a shit.

I am glad we can both agree the art is amazing. I also love the hand written lettering of
Hazels
dialogue. I am not sure if I needed to spoiler that but it is a bit of a plot thing early on.
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You're right about the surprises! So it doesn't seem like all hate, because I do enjoy the book and look forward to it, I'll say that my favorite part about it is the characters.

Especially The Will, who is probably my favorite (and Lying Cat). Story spoiler:
I thought I would die when Lying Cat was sucked out of the ship! So glad The Will saved him.
 
Messi said:
I am sure you get this a lot, but wanted to tell you for a while. That tattoo is one of the most fantastic tattoos I have ever seen. Well done on that :P
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Thanks Messi. I tell people all the time. Take a month and research your artist. Pays off in spades.
 
How's Sterling Gates as a writer? He's writing the Killer Frost book that's coming out this week and I like the look of that villain. But I don't want to bother with it of he's not a particularly quality writer.
 
Lol, I just read the line "Do you even lift, bro?" in the preview for Uncanny X-Force #11.

List:

Avengers Arena #15
Fearless Defenders #9
Mighty Avengers #1
Uncanny X-Force #11
X-Men #5
 
Yeah, you know what? I was ready to roll with the talent change. I guess I'm one of the few who wasn't totally turned off by the idea of a new writer for this title. And when I heard who it was, I was intrigued. But not letting those cats finish their arc? That is a dick move!
 
Warren Ellis' Thunderbolts is on sale at comixology, issues 110-121, his full run on the title, definitely something worth buying
 
Damn it's a good month to be a Mignola fan. I guess it really picked up in July, but that's me just catch up on the two latest BPRD trades and by the looks of it, there's a Mignola trade every month from now until January, maybe even Feb. BPRD 1948 in two days :D who needs monthlies with this output haha, actual monthly buyers must be swamped
 
La Maquinon said:
How's Sterling Gates as a writer? He's writing the Killer Frost book that's coming out this week and I like the look of that villain. But I don't want to bother with it of he's not a particularly quality writer.
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He's good. Cleaned up Supergirl when it was a mess pre-52. Has also been writing JLA: Vibe, which has been great, especially the character of Agent Gunn of ARGUS, a gay married man.
 
Splatt said:
That preview for Locke & Key: Alpha, brutal...

I don't want it to end :((((
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I do, I'm still waiting to read the final volume after all. Plus nobody likes a story that pads itself. I guess they can make a spinoff focusing on past key holders.
 
I am reminded that they are canceling the print version of "Legends of the Dark Knight", which really sucks. It'll still continue, digitally, but it's the same as canceling it to me.
 
Mindwipe said:
Stay classy, DC.
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Said it in the other topic, but I really don't understand calling out DC over getting rid of them like this after what they did. Anytime you air dirty laundry like this you're going to be shitcanned. You can't just come out and publicly air shit about your employers like that and not expect this kind of reaction. It's just something you do not do in a corporate environment like that, and pretty standard procedure at any company like that to be fired for what they did. Rule of thumb is always if you're having problems internally, handle it internally, and if you gotta whistleblow, do it anonymously.
 
pa22word said:
Said it in the other topic, but I really don't understand calling out DC over getting rid of them like this after what they did. Anytime you air dirty laundry like this you're going to be shitcanned. You can't just come out and publicly air shit about your employers like that and not expect this kind of reaction. It's just something you do not do in a corporate environment like that, and pretty standard procedure at any company like that to be fired for what they did. Rule of thumb is always if you're having problems internally, handle it internally, and if you gotta whistleblow, do it anonymously.
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It also strikes me as "giving your two weeks notice" and then being shocked that your boss replaced you sooner. That sort of thing happens all the time. Some companies will axe you immediately and have security escort you out.

tim1138 said:
Vibe - the secret most diverse DC book. Also the secret best DC book with Aquaman.
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Except for its racist depiction of Parademons as stereotypical mindless Apokalyptian Zealots.
 
NEO0MJ said:
I do, I'm still waiting to read the final volume after all. Plus nobody likes a story that pads itself. I guess they can make a spinoff focusing on past key holders.
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Hahah yea, I was hoping we'd get the final hardcover this year since it was what, last july we got the fifth? No dice though, looks like feb :( I don't want it to end...but I can't rea dit til it does, so kind of want it to hurry up too haha.
 
List Crisis!

Action Comics #23.2 (General Zod)
Aquaman #23.1 (Black Manta)
Batman #23.2 (The Riddler)
Batman And Robin #23.2 (The Court Of Owls)
Batman The Dark Knight #23.2 (Mr. Freeze)
Detective Comics #23.2 (Harley Quinn)
Earth 2 #15.2 (Solomon Grundy)
Flash #23.2 (Reverse-Flash)
Green Lantern #23.2 (Mongul)
Justice League #23.2 (Lobo)
Justice League Of America #7.2 (Killer Frost)
Superman #23.2 (Brainiac)
Teen Titans #23.1 (Trigon)
 
pa22word said:
Said it in the other topic, but I really don't understand calling out DC over getting rid of them like this after what they did. Anytime you air dirty laundry like this you're going to be shitcanned. You can't just come out and publicly air shit about your employers like that and not expect this kind of reaction. It's just something you do not do in a corporate environment like that, and pretty standard procedure at any company like that to be fired for what they did. Rule of thumb is always if you're having problems internally, handle it internally, and if you gotta whistleblow, do it anonymously.
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They'd already been shitcanned.

DC is going back and retrospectively screwing up the end of their work to shit on them over a PR kerfuffle, in a way that will damage a run that otherwise would, if nothing else, have sat and sold well in trade for a great many years.

It's a dumb, counter-productive move for the express purpose of pretty revenge.
 
Splatt said:
That preview for Locke & Key: Alpha, brutal...

I don't want it to end :((((
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So intense! I have such an emotional attachment to the characters. It's going to be difficult reading these last two issues. Is the *final* issue next month, or is there another delay after this issue?
 
Time for this week's list! Big one this week. Also AA is back. Love that book, no matter what anyone else says.

Avengers Arena #15
X-Men #5
Ten Grand #5
Astro City #4
Superior Spider-Man Team Up #3
Federal Bureau of Physics #3
The Manhattan Projects #14
Batman #23.2
Batman and Robin #23.2
Deadpool #16
Fantastic Four #12
Avengers #19
Indestructible Hulk #13
Kick-Ass 3 #3
 
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