ConteZero76
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A x64 XBox-OS would be a better candidate.
PS VITA TV announced (~$100, Vita set top box - as in it has no screen - for TVs)
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A x64 XBox-OS would be a better candidate.
Separately. You then use a DS3 or DS4 to play Vita games on your TV. So it's a cheap, less portable Vita, basically. Game support isn't 100% either which is a drawback, but as a bonus, if you have a PS4 it becomes a streaming box for PS4 games.
Nor should you, most people can't tell the difference.
Like FPS, 30vs60. Put in a ton of effort to get 60fps and only you know...(how did I derail myself here?..)
maabus1999
Member
I don't think roku is too concerned honestly. Outside of enthusiasts, I really wonder how well it will be marketed. I still have more questions about this device than answers, mainly with compatibility, storage, etc...
Also wonder if this would connect to PSN through say my PS3, to get plus for vita games, or will digital not work? Etc...
It's a great way to boost the Vita install base and hopefully lead to more games being developed for it. My only worry is that it's going to be potentially confusing for consumers on what is compatible with PSVTV or not.
I assume all new vita games will be forced to have touch screen and back pad optional only. Older games would hardly be worth the cost to patch.
I assume all new vita games will be forced to have touch screen and back pad optional only. Older games would hardly be worth the cost to patch.
industrian
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I wonder if there's any potential for playing Vita games on the PS4.
You make that sound like a bad thing. All the more reason to like it
Diablohead
Member
It supports bigger memory cards and I would think runs something along the lines of the vita OS with pad support, so I would think PSN access and downloads would be simple for digital and PS+ stuff. I hope.
Ludicrous Speed
Banned
Yeah, I guess there is a market for some people like yourself. But when I was in the market for a Vita, I would have never considered this. You are losing some of the functionality of the Vita and it still uses those awful memory cards.
With the 2ds, yes, that made perfect sense as a low cost entry. I'm not sure where the value is on this device...
maabus1999
Member
If this device is basically a media extender, I don't think this will work. Again, a lot of questions.
New Vita games yes...old vita games...questionable. Not on the devs side, but maybe sony will allow/figure out a hardware solution for it.
Gameboy415
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Holy hell this thing will be perfect for me!
I have 2 HD CRTs (both Sony XBR960s) that I've been looking to outfit with streaming devices and this is infinitely more appealing to me than a Roku.
Plus both TVs are 720p/1080i so no worries on the resolution for me.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but with this device I'll be able to:
-use Netflix/Hulu/etc
-use Music Unlimited (I hope!?)
-play PSVita retail games
-play digital PS1/PSP/PSV games
-remote play PS4 games
for under ~$100?
Sign me the hell up!
My only concerns are that it still relies on the over-priced Vita memory cards and how the PSN account limitations will come into play (since it's currently limited to 2 devices for PSN purchases).
I have 2 HD CRTs (both Sony XBR960s) that I've been looking to outfit with streaming devices and this is infinitely more appealing to me than a Roku.
Plus both TVs are 720p/1080i so no worries on the resolution for me.
Please correct me if I'm wrong, but with this device I'll be able to:
-use Netflix/Hulu/etc
-use Music Unlimited (I hope!?)
-play PSVita retail games
-play digital PS1/PSP/PSV games
-remote play PS4 games
for under ~$100?
Sign me the hell up!
My only concerns are that it still relies on the over-priced Vita memory cards and how the PSN account limitations will come into play (since it's currently limited to 2 devices for PSN purchases).
Domcorleone
Member
If remote play works as advertised, I don't see how this isn't a winner with PS4 owners. The idea of essentially having two consoles in the home is genius.
That's what I love about apple tv is if I'm watching something in the living room and want to go to the bedroom I can easily switch what I was watching to it.
The fact that it plays vita games and other apps is just gravy.
Sony should make a PS4 bundle with this device.
That's what I love about apple tv is if I'm watching something in the living room and want to go to the bedroom I can easily switch what I was watching to it.
The fact that it plays vita games and other apps is just gravy.
Sony should make a PS4 bundle with this device.
it is vita in a box... so remote play like a vita... so, yes, playing games off PS4 via internet is possible, but it wont play good unless you have good internet connection.
it could very well be called Playstation TV in USA and Europe, as thats basically what it is.
It will work the same way PS4 remote play on Vita works.
ConteZero76
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Vanillalite
Ask me about the GAF Notebook
Is this device Ethernet only or does it have WiFi built in?
Khrysler Jerikho
Member
Is that a LAN port I see? That could cut down my disconnect rate at Phantasy Star Online 2 if it's supported.
Like the Wii U?
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Why didn't they just add a Vita game cart slot on the PS4? Would have made more sense. I'm interested to see how this works being that most Vita games utilize one, if not both, touchscreens. Right now I don't see Assassin's Creed, Uncharted, etc. working.
Yep, it depends how it works really. I'd assumed the remote play would work the same way as it does on PSP / Vita currently with PS3, which is that it can connect anywhere in the world that has a Wifi connection (although lag is an issue).
TechnicPuppet
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If Sony made the PS3 portable in 2011 then it would be the exact same platform as the PS3, why would there be less games made for PS3, I really don't know what point you are trying to make here.
I Wanna Be The Guy
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Wrong. Wipeout 2048 won't be compatible. Can you guess why? That's right, because it requires the touchscreen. For menus. This is something people just aren't getting. If a Vita game requires the touch screen for anything then it won't be compatible. Absolutely anything. Touch is required for menu navigation in wipeout, therefore won't be playable. Just like something like Super Monkey Vita. It may not use touch for the core gameplay, but the menu navigation touch requirement alone is enough to make it not playable.
Very few retail Vita games require no sort of touch interaction. The ones that don't are indies and games that are also available on PS3. If you want to play those games on your tv then buy a PS3 for a similar price point and also have access to loads of PS3 games.
The only way something like wipeout will be playable is if they take the effort to patch it so touch is no longer required. No third party is going to do that for any existing game and Sony won't do it for many of their games. For some it's impossible even if they wanted to, like Uncharted GA. About as many retail Vita games will be patched for use with Vita TV as PS3 games that were patched to be playable on Vita via remote play. Sony might decide to do it with a couple games just so they can say it's doable and have an extra selling point. But in reality that's all it will be. A couple of games. The rest of the library on Vita TV will be indies you can already play on PS3 and PS1 games you can already play on PS3. And PSP games, but in this day and age does anybody really give a shit about playing PSP games on a big screen? A small minority at best.
Remember a lot of indie/PSN titles were cross play PS3/PS Vita - this probably makes going to the Dualshock 3 control scheme a lot easier for those games.
Seems like a good product for gamers but it won't really appeal to the larger market.
For $100ish you can get a sleek looking box that allows you to:
- Play Vita games on your TV via a PS3/PS4 controller (I'm guessing PS4 touchpad and gyroscope support needs to be patched into Vita games).
- Access the Vita app store to buy PS1 games, decent indies and the usual apps (Netflix, Youtube, Twitch etc?).
- Bonus if you have a PS4 you can use it with remote play to allow the PS4 to be streamed to another TV in the household. I don't believe this works over the internet only via local Wifi/Ethernet.
- Prospect of Gaikai in a year or so time streaming PS3/PS4 titles straight from the web from where ever you take the device (as long as the internet connection is reasonable).
That isn't bad for the $100 price tag if you have multiple TVs that are used in a household and media streaming apps are your main use for the TVs. It also frees up the PS4 if you misses/family members want to watch something on Nextflix, now you can send them to the other room.
For $100ish you can get a sleek looking box that allows you to:
- Play Vita games on your TV via a PS3/PS4 controller (I'm guessing PS4 touchpad and gyroscope support needs to be patched into Vita games).
- Access the Vita app store to buy PS1 games, decent indies and the usual apps (Netflix, Youtube, Twitch etc?).
- Bonus if you have a PS4 you can use it with remote play to allow the PS4 to be streamed to another TV in the household. I don't believe this works over the internet only via local Wifi/Ethernet.
- Prospect of Gaikai in a year or so time streaming PS3/PS4 titles straight from the web from where ever you take the device (as long as the internet connection is reasonable).
That isn't bad for the $100 price tag if you have multiple TVs that are used in a household and media streaming apps are your main use for the TVs. It also frees up the PS4 if you misses/family members want to watch something on Nextflix, now you can send them to the other room.
I think this is first and foremost directed to the Playstation users, there are a lot of them who don't own a Vita, this is a nice and really cheap way to play Vita games (like the free PS+ titles) and if the remote play will work as intended it will be a great device to have with your PS4.
Zuhzuhzombie!!
Member
When can I buy it?
Because this works out at around £63 according to Eurogamer (will be more expensive with VAT added), the PS4 is £350, so its over 5 times more expensive.
Graphics Horse
Member
Hm they need some L2/R2 + analog stick shenanigans in there to get round any unpatchable games.
Bassmastergeneral
Member
I really REALLY want this. Have there been any comments about a US release?
ConteZero76
Member
So $409 instead of $399 for a PSVita card reader ?
No, thanks.
I'll buy a USB3 PSVita card reader if / when available.
Hard lesson from PS3.
Definitely, for those. I was more referring to the retail Vita games that aren't compatible at the moment (Eurogamer says Gravity Rush isn't compatible, for example) - I wonder if we'll see Gravity Rush Remix for Vita TV or something?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWplhhktgqs this video demonstrated streaming from PS4 to Vita over the internet (the woman playing Knack)
chickdigger802
Banned
Don't see this answered yet, but...
If you already have a vita... how do you use this?
Anyone with 2 vitas? I assume with ps+ you can cloud sync saves... digital games would work best unless you enjoy swapping vita carts between the vitatv and your vita.
If you already have a vita... how do you use this?
Anyone with 2 vitas? I assume with ps+ you can cloud sync saves... digital games would work best unless you enjoy swapping vita carts between the vitatv and your vita.
Deadly Cyclone
Pride of Iowa State
Are there really going to be that many people that buy this and not a PS4 though? Also with it not working with some of the best Vita games out, and not supporting 1080p for PS4 play I'm not sure who they are going for here.
"Launching in Japan before other regions" was Sony's quote according to Eurogamer, so it's almost certain it'll be out in the US, just no confirmation of when.
ConteZero76
Member
There's touch screen emulation support. That's enough for Wipeout.
Really curious how this does, the idea and price are simply excellent. Very unexpected.
It would have been worth it just for the PS1/PSP games at that price but to also have Vita, PS3/PS4 through remote play and Gakai and all the media functions is just nuts, could be wrong but really think Sony has a winner on their hands.
Touch controls shouldn't be too hard to simulate, like you could hold L2/R2 to access the front/back touch.
It would have been worth it just for the PS1/PSP games at that price but to also have Vita, PS3/PS4 through remote play and Gakai and all the media functions is just nuts, could be wrong but really think Sony has a winner on their hands.
Touch controls shouldn't be too hard to simulate, like you could hold L2/R2 to access the front/back touch.