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Driver in front of me purposely ran over baby raccoon crossing the street...

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What the hell is going on with all this raccoon hatred? It's a living creature that has a right to exist, as do you. Killing them because of a risk of pandemic diseases is one thing, but aiming your car at a newborn, to make things worse, is just disgusting and sick.

Even if they have diseases, there are more respectful ways to deal with that. Take the swiss for example: Every few months, the forester scatters little packs of meat in the forest with medicine/antibiotics in them to preserve our foxes and save them from rabies.

I think most people here have never been to a country where real vermin exists.

yeah thats weird. i guess Americans hate raccoons because there are so many? I mean, i could understand pidgeons, now that's one animal I cant stand
 
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The fuck kind of thinking is this? It's a hazard and you wait for it to cross. Who ever taught you to run over hazards? lol

What if you run over a bigger animal that makes your car swerve? I don't really see the point in risking that.
Pretty sure what he means by this and what I have heard of this is that if an animal darts in front of your car when you are at a point where if you dont instantly crank the wheel to swerve them you will hit them. In that case is where sorry animal I hope I miss but Im not going to crank the wheel like a madman because high speed plus rapid change of course can easily make your car become uncontrollable and or flip over.

I also wonder how many of you guys who are spouting some more of the extream comments in this thread drive...
 
The fuck kind of thinking is this? It's a hazard and you wait for it to cross. Who ever taught you to run over hazards? lol

What if you run over a bigger animal that makes your car swerve? I don't really see the point in risking that.

There may not be time to stop and wait for it to cross. If it darts out in front of your car, you either swerve and risk crashing, or keep going and hit it.

I know which one I would do.
 
There may not be time to stop and wait for it to cross. If it darts out in front of your car, you either swerve and risk crashing, or keep going and hit it.

I know which one I would do.

It's risky if it's a large animal like a deer, moose or bear. They might crash through the windshield.
 
Pretty sure what he means by this and what I have heard of this is that if an animal darts in front of your car when you are at a point where if you dont instantly crank the wheel to swerve them you will hit them. In that case is where sorry animal I hope I miss but Im not going to crank the wheel like a madman because high speed plus rapid change of course can easily make your car become uncontrollable and or flip over.

I also wonder how many of you guys who are spouting some more of the extream comments in this thread drive...

I don't know what country that poster is from, so here in UK it's not usually high speed roads you're driving at. 30-40 mph max. OP mentioned a street, not a highway, so it's kind of a different situation. If it's a highway, I guess I could see that reasoning but what the OP described is the driver purposefully hit the raccoon on a low-speed road.
 
It was mean but raccoons are vermin so I wouldn't shed a tear over it. In the wild they get killed by predators and many of them die at a young age. Plus, you didn't see everything that happened. Some of these small animals are complete idiots. Squirrels are especially YOLO and will actually wait on the side of the road when a car is coming and then when you're about 10 ft away, they jump out and play some real life Frogger game with their lives. Maybe this raccoon did something similar.

This was a different case. The driver went out of it'd way to kill the Raccoon, swerving to the side.
 
Dude/gal is a waste of flesh. Any person who mistreats living things for the sake of it, is valueless to society.
 
Pretty sure what he means by this and what I have heard of this is that if an animal darts in front of your car when you are at a point where if you dont instantly crank the wheel to swerve them you will hit them. In that case is where sorry animal I hope I miss but Im not going to crank the wheel like a madman because high speed plus rapid change of course can easily make your car become uncontrollable and or flip over.

I also wonder how many of you guys who are spouting some more of the extream comments in this thread drive...

This is true. If you're driving on a windy road in the country and a small animal comes out you have to plow over it if you're going fast, in many cases even below the speed limit. If you don't you could lose control, hit a tree, cause a five mile fucking backup (happened to a woman who stopped for a turtle and caused a ten car crash). If you can avoid, great but sometimes those little shits dart under your tire when you try to avoid them. You need to assume they'll just get out of the way on their own, don't swerve unless the animal is large enough to cause damage or it's a cat or a dog, and then do only if you can.
 
This is true. If you're driving on a windy road in the country and a small animal comes out you have to plow over it if you're going fast, in many cases even below the speed limit. If you don't you could lose control, hit a tree, cause a five mile fucking backup (happened to a woman who stopped for a turtle and caused a ten car crash). If you can avoid, great but sometimes those little shits dart under your tire when you try to avoid them. You need to assume they'll just get out of the way on their own, don't swerve unless the animal is large enough to cause damage or it's a cat or a dog, and then do only if you can.

Sometimes it's impossible to avoid them I agree, but what you're suggesting is not possible for a lot of people because it's instinctive. You have a split second to make a decision and your brain doesn't have time to go through a list of options.
 
Sometimes it's impossible to avoid them I agree but what you're suggesting is not possible for a lot of people because it's instinctive. You have a split second to make a decision and your brain doesn't have time to go through a list of options.

Yeah, I nearly had an accident avoiding a deer that probably would have killed me. Since then the best course of action for a large animal is always break to avoid a heavier impact, and pray there is nobody behind you or that the animal will move on it's own, which a deer will do if you honk and flash your lights. I ran over multiple small critters by trying to avoid them only to have them run into my car, if you keep going most of the time they'll get out of the way.

EDIT: I also think city gaf is primary in this thread. Small town gaf understands how pesky these critters are, fuck squirrels. I won't kill one but those things are fucking lemmings and destroy houses (they claw up the wood and let water/snow seek in, causing stuff to rot faster).
 
I think any person that feels that human life is worth less than that of a dog is a human whose life is a blight on humanity.

You think that's bad, check my topic "would you kill every Dog to save the world?" and watch people choosing Dogs over entire countries.
 
I don't know what country that poster is from, so here in UK it's not usually high speed roads you're driving at. 30-40 mph max. OP mentioned a street, not a highway, so it's kind of a different situation. If it's a highway, I guess I could see that reasoning but what the OP described is the driver purposefully hit the raccoon on a low-speed road.
Still have to be careful about slamming on your brakes, hitting the animal can be the safer option.

Also,
how many points for a raccoon?
 
Neighborhood streets but was two lane. Houses and sidewalks on one side. And the thing is, I was behind and saw the raccoons were a good judge of speed and distance. The baby was out of the middle. This guy like purposely sped up in a sense and pulled to the right, almost near the sidewalk, ran over it and straightened and drove off. There is no way, if he had kept straight, that he would have hit the raccoon.

I don't know, maybe because I'd seen them so many times it stuck with me. I usually walk my dog in the summer nights, and just like two weeks ago, they were crossing less than 15 feet away of me and my dog.

They're pests sure but if it was a puppy crossing with its parents, would that have made any difference from an animal/cruelty standpoint? I don't know, just felt talking about it for some reason. Like killing the baby creature was so pointless and avoidable.
 
Except raccoons are much more intelligent animals. It does matter.

And I would agree. I don't very often kill bugs either, though some people would value a raccoon's life as little as a bug, and their attitude of killing one is one of the same. Then there's people that drown kittens.
 
The fuck kind of thinking is this? It's a hazard and you wait for it to cross. Who ever taught you to run over hazards? lol

What if you run over a bigger animal that makes your car swerve? I don't really see the point in risking that.
I'm also in the UK, but when I lived in Australia, people were killed when kangaroos and things ran out in front of cars and people instinctively swerved to avoid them, lost control of their cars and crashed. That's why you're taught that if any animal suddenly runs out in front of you, hold the wheel steady and if you hit it, you hit it.
 
I would hopefully never kill a mammal outside of my home (sorry mice and rats) if it wasn't a threat to anybody.

A baby raccoon walking across the road? Go in peace, little dude.
 
This guy like purposely sped up in a sense and pulled to the right, almost near the sidewalk, ran over it and straightened and drove off. There is no way, if he had kept straight, that he would have hit the raccoon.

Yeah thats kinda sick tbh, oh well i always believe these people eventually get whats coming for them.
 
Pretty sure what he means by this and what I have heard of this is that if an animal darts in front of your car when you are at a point where if you dont instantly crank the wheel to swerve them you will hit them. In that case is where sorry animal I hope I miss but Im not going to crank the wheel like a madman because high speed plus rapid change of course can easily make your car become uncontrollable and or flip over.

I also wonder how many of you guys who are spouting some more of the extream comments in this thread drive...

This is what I've learned too,unless its a big animal. I have ran over so many cute squirrels and some smaller animals that just dart out all of a sudden. Feel sorry for the little guys but thankfully I've never come across a deer or something.
 
Still have to be careful about slamming on your brakes, hitting the animal can be the safer option.

Agreed. First thing I do when I see an animal in the street is check my rearview. Then if I don't have someone right on me I'll being to moderately apply my brakes. If the animal dies oh well. I'm not slamming on my brakes fullforce because it will put me in a really bad situation.

But this would be an accident. I'd never try to hit anything on purpose just to do it. That's just disgusting.
 
I've lived in the country and hit deer, rabbits, owls, and a whole family of raccoons. It sucks, especially the damage to my vehicle, but I would never purposefully run over things.
 
I drilled a cat once on accident, total bullseye. I felt so bad because it was like flopping and shit on the road. Terrible, but it came out of nowhere.
 
Raccoons are the biggest carriers of rabies in the US
Who are they spreading it to?

Bats, I assume, in some kind of horrendous false flag rabies attack.

Let me quote Wikipedia.

"Nineteen of the twenty-two human rabies cases documented in the United States between 1980 and 1997 have been identified genetically as bat rabies."
 
Yeah, they are vermin, disease blah blah blah.

There is still something seriously wrong with an asshole going out of his way to do that.
He sure as hell wasn't thinking he was doing his community and the world a favor, give me a fucking break.
He did it for shits and giggles, and that sort mentality translates to his dealings with others.
That driver needs an ass kicking, not for running over a raccoon, but just for existing.
 
It's risky if it's a large animal like a deer, moose or bear. They might crash through the windshield.

I just had the mental image of a giant Skyrim grizzly bear jumping into the road, completely unseen and out of the blue like a cat that darts out from nowhere. I'm trying to not lol at my desk and get odd looks from my coworkers.
 
My friend told me her ex boyfriend ran over a squirrel on purpose, and called her to tell her about it. I'm amazed people are so proudly fucked up, narcissistic, pieces of shit.
 
If an animal runs out in front of you while you're driving, I'd say there's nothing wrong with holding the wheel straight and hitting it to prevent any danger to yourself from suddenly swerving to try and avoid it. It's just one of those things.

However, in this case, actively going out of your way to run over an animal that wasn't directly in your path is just cruel and inhumane.

This.. did the dude actually swerve to hit the thing, or just keep driving and happened to run over it.

You are not suppose to slam on breaks, swerve, or really do anything drastic if an animal runs out in front of you... plow it down, don't endanger yourself.

In Australia the trucks have "roo bars" to plow through Kangaroos on the roads
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I never purposely hit things but as a rule I don't slam on my brakes or swerve. Not paying for car repairs is worth more to me than a small critters life. Survival of the fittest and all that. Time to learn about highways, animals!
 
What if they were trying to swerve around the raccoon, and the raccoon was trying to get away as well? One of those "let's dance" situation you get into with people when walking towards each other and you both pick the same side to move over to.
 
Agreed. First thing I do when I see an animal in the street is check my rearview. Then if I don't have someone right on me I'll being to moderately apply my brakes. If the animal dies oh well. I'm not slamming on my brakes fullforce because it will put me in a really bad situation.

But this would be an accident. I'd never try to hit anything on purpose just to do it. That's just disgusting.

This is the perfect response. You should NEVER put your own life or another human being over an animal crossing the street. That said, you don't run over an animal intentionally like a scumbag either.
 
Someone did that to my dog during her morning constitutional two weeks ago. First time I'd let her run free in a while. Didn't stop, didn't move her out of the road after hitting her. I should have went out with her. But it was 5 am and I was still groggy.
 
What if they were trying to swerve around the raccoon, and the raccoon was trying to get away as well? One of those "let's dance" situation you get into with people when walking towards each other and you both pick the same side to move over to.
Swerving toward it still wouldn't make sense in this situation either. The mental image of the raccoon and the car communicating through body language 'no you first', 'no you i insist', 'oh..well i...oh OK, wait no you' is pretty amusing though.
 
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