Haeralis The BRave
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Well, at least it wasn't Nintendo.
Sega Sammy confirms that Sega Dream Corporation has fully acquired Index (Atlus)
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YuriLowell
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This is the worst news of the year.
buddha0991
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All this negativity...
Mara doesn't need a car. She would be a perfect guest.
Valkyria Chronicles 2 failed in the west, Total War and Sonic games sell, it wouldn't make sense for them to give priority to a failed franchise instead of successful franchises.
The Hatsune Miku game, most likely is just a test. Alot of people asked for it, so they localized. But, if it fails to sell, most likely it'll be another franchise that won't see any more releases in the west.
Psycho_Mantis
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If SEGA doesn't localise Persona then I will personally travel to Japan and beat their corporate heads with a dreamcast.
FlipWilson
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room for one more?
sixteen-bit
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Yeah, that's definitely not at risk.
OMG. REVEAL WHERE YOU GOT AN ENGLISH P2:EP PSP. NOW.
Oh man, if you dont know how the shining series has gone, lets just say that IP has not been managed well and yes it drastically changed and I dont think too many people would be happy for Atlus IPs to turned into Tony Taka borderline hentai to sell cast off figures and dakimakuras.
There has been a very successful PS2 port/remake of the first game and it's available on japanese psn and has sold extremely well there too. Sadly never got a western release, even though its already translated.
The argument that Atlus could better manage Sega's JRPG IPs to be more profitable is a very good and sensible one. Atlus USA localising and getting attention for sega's RPGs in the way they did for demons souls would be ideal. But I still think that's very much on the optimistic side.
You didnt actually answer my question though, which was, name a JRPG IP they've managed well both in japan and the west?
I mean fuck, they promised us Skies of Arcadia HD 18 months ago and even THAT hasnt happened.
They haven't canceled PSO2, according to SEGA it's still coming, but it's delayed.
Though, whenever it comes, I wouldn't expect it to get a good treatment, SEGA of America doesn't seem capable to handle an online game (based on how they treated previous Phantasy Star games)...
When it comes to VC3, VC2 failed in the west, so do you really think they would localize another game in a failed franchise?
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Persona won't be at risk most likely because why else make the purchase?
What is at risk/most likely gone is Devil Survivor, other SMT offshoots, Etrian Odyssey, titles like Catherine, publishing stuff like 3D DOT GAME HEROES, Code of Princess, Dragon's Crown. Essentially one of the last bastions for niche Japanese publishing just wiped out entirely while Sega in turn of course doesn't localise their own shit.
What is at risk/most likely gone is Devil Survivor, other SMT offshoots, Etrian Odyssey, titles like Catherine, publishing stuff like 3D DOT GAME HEROES, Code of Princess, Dragon's Crown. Essentially one of the last bastions for niche Japanese publishing just wiped out entirely while Sega in turn of course doesn't localise their own shit.
Considering vc3 was allegedly a good game and vc2 is a piece of crap it makes sense 2 sold poorly.
A text only translation psn release would go great for them.
Damn like a kick to the nuts.
They have bought Index Corp. not just Atlus. Who knows what they want to do with them.
This is a sad day.
YuriLowell
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No the complete opposite.
I feel like this is actively influencing my purchasing decision of PS4. If the publishing arms of AtlusUSA was killed off in the future, what's left are notably XSEED and NISAmerica. The former has already explored PC as an option and the latter is generally one I don't have much interest in.
Oh well.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
Essentially the entire DS and 3DS library bar MAYBE SMT4 is stuff that current Sega wouldnt have bothered with.
Just after Vanillaware finally has a reasonable success story, their pathway to the west is ripped away. Poetic shit, mang. Between the Vita and PS3 versions, Dragon's Crown managed to sell 100k in the US off the back of Atlus USA. Thats a game I would consider far more niche than any Yakuza title or indeed, Phantasy Star outing.
BronsonLee
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You guys know that scene in The One where Evil Jet Li is on some desolate planet surrounded by like a thousand prisoners, and just starts getting in a massive all out brawl with all of them?
This is how I feel about this thread.
Seriously. You cry about Sega's lack of localization, and the most prominent examples are Valkyria Chronicles, which freaking bombed, and Yakuza, which was the defnition of totally fucked, and yet we got FIVE Yakuza games and 2 VC games. The only reason we didn't get 3 is because it was on PSP, which was dead here. Ask the Type-0 crew how that feels.
You really think they're not going to localize fucking Persona or SMT? You mean their marquee franchises? The ones that sell no matter what hardware they're on? The ones that, even when freaking ported, do damn good numbers? Vita in the west isn't doing so hot, but damned if P4 Golden didn't sell really well here.
Could Atlus USA be in trouble? Possibly. Could the localization of smaller titles be in trouble? Sure.
But again, reiterating a point that many people have pointed out, when Sega acquires a company, in recent history, they do right by them. Relic & Creative Assembly ring any bells? Do you see those fans Q.Qing about how Sega handled them? Do you really think Sega-Sammy created a new corporation as a subsidiary under Sega and paid $140 million dollars to hoard Atlus games in Japan?
tldr; as antagonistic as it sounds, a whole lot of you are out of your damn minds.
This is how I feel about this thread.
Seriously. You cry about Sega's lack of localization, and the most prominent examples are Valkyria Chronicles, which freaking bombed, and Yakuza, which was the defnition of totally fucked, and yet we got FIVE Yakuza games and 2 VC games. The only reason we didn't get 3 is because it was on PSP, which was dead here. Ask the Type-0 crew how that feels.
You really think they're not going to localize fucking Persona or SMT? You mean their marquee franchises? The ones that sell no matter what hardware they're on? The ones that, even when freaking ported, do damn good numbers? Vita in the west isn't doing so hot, but damned if P4 Golden didn't sell really well here.
Could Atlus USA be in trouble? Possibly. Could the localization of smaller titles be in trouble? Sure.
But again, reiterating a point that many people have pointed out, when Sega acquires a company, in recent history, they do right by them. Relic & Creative Assembly ring any bells? Do you see those fans Q.Qing about how Sega handled them? Do you really think Sega-Sammy created a new corporation as a subsidiary under Sega and paid $140 million dollars to hoard Atlus games in Japan?
tldr; as antagonistic as it sounds, a whole lot of you are out of your damn minds.
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Deleted member 47027
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Cosigned. Basically "you people are weird and aren't looking at the big picture and I DON'T KNOW WHY"
Lostconfused
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I honestly don't know why you'd compare a Sega of America-led purchase like Relic and Creative Assembly and a Sega of Japan one. The Sonic and PC focused western arm and the Japanese one could be entirely different companies considering how they conduct themselves.
They've been antagonistic since the Kalinske era.
They've been antagonistic since the Kalinske era.
buddha0991
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I would like to take the time to remind everyone that Atlus is more than just Persona. 
Btw, those are just fan translated screens, no P2EP translated.
Btw, those are just fan translated screens, no P2EP translated.
RoninChaos
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Didn't they just recently come out and say because so many games failed to live up to expectations that they were only focusing on football manager, sonic and the total war games?
Sega has a HISTORY of fuck ups. From the 32x all the way to their exit from the console business. Considering almost the entire industry has incredibly stupid ideas about sales projections, it's not hard to see how Sega could mismanage a company with niche IPs like Atlus.
Vanillaware is fine. They've worked with Marvelous on Grand Knights History and Muramasa Rebirth and they have Xseed (a Marvelous subsidiary) and Aksys here to publish their games.
Yeah, because with the pace that they are releasing Persona/SMT games, the possibility of Atlus USA closing in addition to the loss of its smaller franchises (and this even includes spin-off SMT titles which would be lucky to even get the numbers Valkyria Chronicles crawled to) is totally not a concern at fucking all, right?
I would like to take the time to remind everyone that Atlus is more than just Persona.
Indeed. There are spin-offs from Persona like SMTIV
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Deleted member 47027
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I dunno, who cares? It's just Atlus, it's not like they're really blowing anyone's minds here. SEGA's who people should be concerned about, they have a much richer backcatalogue and more promising IPs.
DrROBschiz
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Poor Grand knights History....
such an awesome came that I hope they come back to someday
buddha0991
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Indeed. There are spin-offs from Persona like SMTIV
Oh you
polyh3dron
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not for long!I would like to take the time to remind everyone that Atlus is more than just Persona.
Yeah but since Xseed hired their own programmer for the PC versions of Oath and Origins, I don't think we'll be seeing another problem like that again.
Atlas is one of the few companies where I'd purchase a title based on their name alone. Their niche stuff from Japan is literally one of the only things that kept gaming fresh for me last gen.
VC2 isn't a piece of crap. It sold poorly because it's a niche game on a platform that doesn't sell any software.
Pie and Beans
Look for me on the local news, I'll be the guy arrested for trying to burn down a Nintendo exec's house.
buddha0991
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Sega pls
I dunno, who cares? It's just Sega, it's not like they're really blowing anyone's minds here. ATLUS's who people should be concerned about, they have a much richer backcatalogue and more promising IPs.
It was a publishing deal in Japan too anyway: even in a worst case scenario it isn't implausible they'd make a deal with SEGA.
Who cares? You mean the niche fanbase that Atlus USA has painstakingly built up since the localization debacle of Revelations: Persona? It's one thing to disagree with how people should be interpreting the news, but to be like "you guys don't get the bigger picture, but who cares about ATLUS's other stuff" is absolutely asinine, if not just flat out disrespectful, and entirely misconstrues the reasonable worry some have about this merger. If you have such a blaise attitude about ATLUS's other properties, there is nothing left to discuss here.
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Deleted member 47027
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Yeah, it's a lost cause.
BronsonLee
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Pretty much. Everyone's acting like Sega just breached the perimeter and knocked down the entrance of Atlus Castle or some shit when it's more like an arranged marriage
You. I like you. *brofist*
Either way, I hope we can just keep it civi-
*facepalm* oh Sunflower nooooooo
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