Even assuming the OP did break the ToS- Doesn't change my argument. One should still have access to the goods they legitimately paid for.
Call me crazy.
I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?
- Thread starter Zumblakladla
- Start date
Even assuming the OP did break the ToS- Doesn't change my argument. One should still have access to the goods they legitimately paid for.
Call me crazy.
Yes.
Louis Cyphre
Banned
I agree, now it's up to him to prove he bought them legally (through Microsoft, not here). This was one of my main concerns with the early ideas they had with the XBox One. If the system requires to be connected to function think of all the issues. There would be a lot of legal issues to be able to access your content if they banned you or they would have to make it so you can still connect online just not join mutiplayer matches (which I think Larry Hyrb mentioned to be the case).
Aren't you required to give our your password if you're into achievement boosting? The other guys could have done anything when they had access to OP's account.
EDIT: I figured that some boosters share credentials so that a single account could be online at all hours of the day.
Anyway, MS should handle account bans like Valve where you're still able to download and play your existing purchases. But Microsoft.
EDIT: I figured that some boosters share credentials so that a single account could be online at all hours of the day.
Anyway, MS should handle account bans like Valve where you're still able to download and play your existing purchases. But Microsoft.
RazielCuts
Member
It may have nothing to do with XBL but it does tell us the type of person he is.
I'm sorry but maybe you should read the legal disclaimers the next time you create a network ID. You accept the terms before you buy anything. Don't like this fact? Bail out from such platform then.
wut?
This was the main reason why I rejected the original prospect of the Xbox One, personally: I don't trust Microsoft to be judicious or transparent when it comes to enforcement. In fact, I don't even trust them to be fair.
It took Valve years to earn that trust from me.
He does. Play offline. Why should Microsoft, or any company, allow a known thief/exploiter back into their store, digital or otherwise?
JakkuFurosu
Member
yes/No
Most the time Boosting is when people gather to ease getting a achievement/trophy.
EG: the trophy is 50 multiplayer wins.
you get a friend and play him 50 times with him intentionally losing.
The questionable means seems to be a really hard trophy you cant do....say clear lvl50 without dying and you just cant do it. You give friend pw/account info I guess and let him do it.
Well, as a poster previously replied it's merely a license that we're purchasing.
And technically, he/she is right. I guess the seller of this license has the right to revoke it at any time. The whole concept doesn't sit well with me, though.
jadedcynic
Banned
It was hacked or something and user data was compromised.
Google "marketplace theft"
AtomicShroom
Member
What are you, 6? What makes you think you're entitled to anything? If you paid for a 30-day gym subscription and got banned after 5 days from the place for peeking into the ladies room, do you think they would refund the remaining 25 days or allow you to access the gym still because you paid for it? Fuck no.
And they will, so long as they still own the Xbox to which the licenses are assigned.
So... Don't use Steam/XBL/PSN or basically any service which sells digital content?
Seems like a realistic option to me.
Console is banned, so no he does not have access to that content.
Ah, so it's just for multiplayer achievements. I know I've read about people sharing credentials so that a single account could be online at all hours of the day, achievin stuff.
No? Achievement boosting is just getting people to play with you and help you get achievements. For example lets say you need achievements for a game with basically dead multiplayer. You'd play against your friend on that game and they'd let you kill them for achievements. That's boosting as I understand it.
If I recall it was when MS accidently quadrupled everyone's MS points
I got banned then, just an account ban though
I also did custom songs on Rock Band, so that could have been why too
Looks like the OP is in Europe, which would mean he owns any game he has bought from XBL.
BronsonLee
Member
WE DID IT GUYS
Quick, search for me. You'll find the martial arts movie I did! I MUST BE A REAL TOUGH CUSTOMER
Or it makes him a CAG/frugal gamer...
Also, to people going all 'ToS huhuhuhu' Yeah...that doesn't stand up too well, -especially- if OP is in Europe like some people think. If that's the case, then troubletime
JakkuFurosu
Member
i edited my post for the second example but usually when someones requesting boosting its for the 1st example
Is this a joke post?
What the fuck does this have to do with buying a game and having it taken away from you?
I don't even...
I don't see the problem? You either stand up to your morals and don't support these platforms or you bend over and accept the terms.
Yes, he has access to the content on his HD. Play it offline. If you're saying that he should have the right to download games from a store that he exploited or stole from, lol. No business worth a damn is going to allow a thief back into their store just because at one point they paid for something legitimately.
Not that simple. He doesn't have access to download the games that he purchased.
And way to throw around accusations... We have no idea what he was banned for.
Indeed it does.
AtomicShroom
Member
What does this have to do with buying car and having that car taken away from because of DUI. You paid for that car so you should be able to use it even though you're breaking the "TOS", right?
...Only if the licenses are not on that Xbox.
A console ban means you can't access Xbox Live. This means no online multiplayer and no remote license authentication.
Good Job OP is from Europe where European law doesn't recognise EULAs and TOS, even if you have to click "I agree to the terms".
Henry Jones Jr
Member
You do get to keep your car
CassidyIzABeast
Member
Haha, jesus people. I didn't post that as undeniable proof that he got permed for achievement boosting. I posted it because boosting is frowned upon and seen as cheating by a lot of people regardless of its its against TOS or not.
Yeah could be interesting. Any preceeding cases like this where someone was unbanned because of national laws?
If his actions warranted a lifetime ban, why would they allow him to access their store? What business would allow that? But yeah, it's the corporations fault that he broke their well documented rules and they should bend over backwards to accommodate him.
Again, completely irrelevant comparison.
YOU still own the car. They can't take it away from you. I can sell it, light it on fire, drive it anyway, or do whatever the fuck I want with it. I purchased it.
So giving someone access to something they purchased is 'bending over backwards'?
Man, those are some low expectations.
Mugatu
Member
And Microsoft is a private entity, they're not the government, they don't make laws.
If someone does something wrong then fine, ban him or her. My problem is removing their access to everything they already bought (and the licensing argument is far from legally settled so you can't just say you lose your license) and that there is no recourse at all. They say they have proof and but don't show it to anyone. That's BS.
And it's not like MS has the moral high ground with their almost impossible to turn off auto renewal, again next to impossible to remove credit card information, them charging expired cards, and other anti-consumer practices.
Anyway, this is all just speculation now and we're arguing about cases where we have next to no information so there's not much point.
Companies, in many cases, still have the right to revoke access to their services in these situations.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
That's a massive simplification of the EU's position on EULA's (Which also doesn't extend to ToS / ToU for ongoing services)
Indeed.
AtomicShroom
Member
Ah maybe in the US, but not everywhere. The point still stands and applies to many realities of our society: you may be stripped of a purchase if you don't abide by the rules. And there is one simple way to not having this happen to you: don't do shady piracy cheating shit. OP had it coming to him someday and I have no sympathy.
Osiris
I permanently banned my 6 year old daughter from using the PS4 for mistakenly sending grief reports as it's too hard to watch or talk to her
In the UK your car can be seized for breaking the law and driving without insurance and there's not a damned thing you can do about it.
Zumblakladla
Banned
Website does not have any connections to this.
Its 2011, this is 2013. What the hell? Don't slide subject to the other side please.
Also, that website was never selling pre-paid cards.
Its 2011, this is 2013. What the hell? Don't slide subject to the other side please.
Also, that website was never selling pre-paid cards.
This is completely incorrect, no matter how many times it gets repeated
Palette Swap
Member
I get digging dirt on OP to explain why he would be banned (as the Oman thing is unlikely).
But short of having "stolen" every game on his account, I can't see what would justify in any way taking his games back.
But short of having "stolen" every game on his account, I can't see what would justify in any way taking his games back.
Similar threads
- Locked