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I pirated 360 games and MS banned me, what the hell?

Its called INTEGRITY people!

If a cashier gives you more change back then you're supposed to get, you give it back.

But you cheating scumbags go, "Well it's their mistake, so I'm not stealing."

Sickening.
If someone is selling a boxed and complete Earthbound for $20 do you let them know the current market value before buying it?

Personal moralities have so many levels and conditions it's not worth putting things out as absolutes.
 
Pirating games and not supporting developers is one thing. But pirating games so you can try and decide to buy if you like, and in the end buy that game is totally different.

If im a pirate, why would have such a huge collection of the games, why would I buy games through XBL etc etc... It just doesn't add up.

All the games I've been playing are legally obtained, and that's it.

I know there's no reason to belive me, so be it, its your choice. If im totally wrong i wouldt post here, Oman account wouldnt be banned, if its because of piracy, only console is banned, not account, because you modified console, not your account.

I know what I'm guilty for and i feel sorry for that, but I know what I'm not guilty for and i want to find out what's the main reason for my banning.

If they told me, look dude, you pirated games, we took yours the end! i will say, ok you're right, but I'm fucking collecting games that i love, and i support every developer.

I know that the most of you don't give a fuck what I'm going to write but that's it.

Someone mentioned, do i feel ashamed? Yes for people telling me I dont belong here and thinking that im taking advantage of MS and shit, but not for opening a thread because Im not banned because i want to try someting before I buy.

That's it.


You dun fucked up
 
So I am a little bit confused, did the OP do more than just make an Oman account and download a few games? I don't have time to read through 17 pages right now.
 
It was whywasibanned.com but it doesn't appear to exist anymore. Hours of entertainment were there too =(.

Awhile back Microsoft changed the way the suspension forum worked. You used to post, wait for a response, and then you could go back and forth with the support team. Also, they would get more specific with reasoning. That led to a lot of great moments when idiots would try and pretend they didn't know what was going on or the support team would straight up say something like, "your son was exposing himself using his xbox camera."

Unfortunately now people ask questions that are hidden until replied to with the section of rules that were broken and then the thread is locked. There really isn't enough good stuff worth posting to a site like that anymore. I used to love combing that forum for entertainment.
 
X360iso Cache

Wahad said:
I read on wiki page that you can aternatively edit default.xbe file if you're playing from HDD to enable 16:9 in the games where 16:9 is not natively supported...

Do anyone know how to do this and share with me?

This too?

Pirating games and not supporting developers is one thing. But pirating games so you can try and decide to buy if you like, and in the end buy that game is totally different.

That's it.

Explicitly.
Did you modify your console or pirate games for demo purposes? (Regardless if you bought them later, or deleted copies of games you didn't enjoy.)
 
You dun fucked up

Pirating games and not supporting developers is one thing. But pirating games so you can try and decide to buy if you like, and in the end buy that game is totally different.

If im a pirate, why would have such a huge collection of the games, why would I buy games through XBL etc etc... It just doesn't add up.

All the games I've been playing are legally obtained, and that's it.

I know there's no reason to belive me, so be it, its your choice. If im totally wrong i wouldt post here, Oman account wouldnt be banned, if its because of piracy, only console is banned, not account, because you modified console, not your account.

I know what I'm guilty for and i feel sorry for that, but I know what I'm not guilty for and i want to find out what's the main reason for my banning.

If they told me, look dude, you pirated games, we took yours the end! i will say, ok you're right, but I'm fucking collecting games that i love, and i support every developer.

I know that the most of you don't give a fuck what I'm going to write but that's it.

Someone mentioned, do i feel ashamed? Yes for people telling me I dont belong here and thinking that im taking advantage of MS and shit, but not for opening a thread because Im not banned because i want to try someting before I buy.

That's it.

Pirating is not supporting developers.
 
What the fuck are you going on about?

A) Never once defended piracy
B) Never said the user should be able to utilize the services that XBL offer- other than having access to what he previously purchased
C) Are you 12?

From your writing and world stance I suspect I'm probably twice your age. If you are six, then I guess that makes me 12.

Several posters here have tried to help you understand what it means to be bound to a TOS agreement, and the difference between them "taking away his games" and their refusal to let him continue using their service due to piracy.

He knew the risks of piracy--which is most likely why he had three consoles and tried to keep one "clean". No one has taken away his games.

They have severed his ability to use their online service--which includes access to re-download previous purchases.

I'm at a loss as to how to make you understand this.

If he bought his games through a digital service--and was bound by the rules of that service and then chose quite knowingly to break those rules--guess what? He loses access to said service!

Perhaps if he didn't like the terms he could have either bought the games physically, or *gosh* maybe not been a filthy pirate.

If any of this is unclear, please take a deep breath, start at the beginning and re-read this thread. There is plenty of info here as to why he doesn't get to re-download his games. Just get past your anger and the feeling that "this isn't right" RE: digital ownership and you'll see he doesn't have a leg to stand on.
 
You likely knew very well what this ban was really all about, but the Oman thing was a cheap scapegoat to try shit on XBL/Microsoft policies. You whipped up a lot of shit and ugliness on a lie or at the very least a gross admission of the facts.

But you don goofed and were excellently outed, fuck you.
 
Better start calling out all the other people that did it as well then.

Are they in here complaining that big mean company is being unfair, stealing from them, and unjustly banning them? No? Then who am I going to call out? Anyone that did this knew it was wrong and all took the risk anyway. OP was angry he got caught and wanted everyone to side with him. Didn't quite work out that way, eh?
 
It's a tricky thing--essentially he still has access to everything physical he bought, and any download titles he purchased that were on his hard drive and licensed to his console (not his account, but his console) at the time of the ban.

Anything he didn't have installed, or any games he had installed that had console licenses on another console, he will be unable to access anymore because he has been banned from accessing the servers that host that content/will validate his account license.

This is something that's sort of up for moral debate, as some people feel MS should be obligated to provide access to their servers indefinitely to download content (Steam does this now; I believe they didn't used to and being banned used to cost you your library, but they no longer do this.) Some people don't. It's also worth noting that pre-180, Major Nelson was claiming that being banned wouldn't prevent you from accessing purchased content on the Xbone, but since that all went sideways we'll never find out if MS was really planning to change their approach at the generational leap or if Nelson was incorrect.

If his legally purchased games are currently on the hard drive of his console, he can play them offline

Thanks. That is certainly a tricky thing to discuss. I thought they gave you the re-download option of you are ban from the service. I guess this is a good lesson to learn. This was an interesting experience to say the least.
 
So I don't have an Xbox and I don't really know how the Live system works.. There's a difference between signing in to your account on a friend's system and recovering your account on a friend's system, right? Is there a limit to how many times you can recover?
 
So I am a little bit confused, did the OP do more than just make an Oman account and download a few games? I don't have time to read through 17 pages right now.

They found his gamertag on another website asking for pirated games, hes admitted to pirating games to try before he buys.
 
I always find it hilarious that pirates and other degenerates are always keen to point fingers at Microsoft as being some sort of irrational figure when it comes to perma-banning and then, when people get all riled up about how unfair MS are being, it always turns out that they're more than justified in banning these tools.

Same thing happened with that itzLupo stuff and "The Pro". The guy went all over youtube and falsely accused Microsoft of being dickwads, when in reality, he was a pirating, cheating, and annoying piece of shit and deserved to be perma'd numerous times.
 
Does his lack of NeoGAF ban point to a policy change here?
 
I'm confused. Downloading free games from other regions is piracy now or did OP really pirate something?

Man, we need a sticky for this...

a) We're still not sure why he was banned.
b) May or may not related to the Oman thing.
c) He HAS admitted to piracy.


And speaking of piracy, I thought GAF had a rule about "admit you do it, and you're banned"?
 
Pirating games and not supporting developers is one thing. But pirating games so you can try and decide to buy if you like, and in the end buy that game is totally different.

If im a pirate, why would have such a huge collection of the games, why would I buy games through XBL etc etc... It just doesn't add up.

All the games I've been playing are legally obtained, and that's it.

I know there's no reason to belive me, so be it, its your choice. If im totally wrong i wouldt post here, Oman account wouldnt be banned, if its because of piracy, only console is banned, not account, because you modified console, not your account.

I know what I'm guilty for and i feel sorry for that, but I know what I'm not guilty for and i want to find out what's the main reason for my banning.

If they told me, look dude, you pirated games, we took yours the end! i will say, ok you're right, but I'm fucking collecting games that i love, and i support every developer.

I know that the most of you don't give a fuck what I'm going to write but that's it.

Someone mentioned, do i feel ashamed? Yes for people telling me I dont belong here and thinking that im taking advantage of MS and shit, but not for opening a thread because Im not banned because i want to try someting before I buy.

That's it.
I believe you when you say that you have bought games and try to support developers. However, you must understand that Microsoft does not discriminate from "piracy to try out the game" and "piracy to keep the game". To Microsoft and just about any other company, it doesn't matter what your intentions may have been. Piracy is piracy, and they punish you just like they would punish any other pirate. It also sounds like you were a tad unlucky, since not every pirate is caught by Microsoft, and yes, there are unfortunately people who pirate lots of games without paying a cent to developers running rampant on Xbox Live. It sucks that you can't access your legally purchased games, but that's the risk you take when you pirate a game; it's always a gamble.
 
Can someone please make a summary of this thread for us coming in due to the title change?
OP complains he got banned despite doing nothing wrong.
People attack Microsoft.
Detective GAF proofs he pirated games.
OP says that is not the reason he got banned.
People attack Microsoft.
 
I believe you when you say that you have bought games and try to support developers. However, you must understand that Microsoft does not discriminate from "piracy to try out the game" and "piracy to keep the game". To Microsoft and just about any other company, it doesn't matter what your intentions may have been. Piracy is piracy, and they punish you just like they would punish any other pirate. It also sounds like you were a tad unlucky, since not every pirate is caught by Microsoft, and yes, there are unfortunately people who pirate lots of games without paying a cent to developers running rampant on Xbox Live. It sucks that you can't access your legally purchased games, but that's the risk you take when you pirate a game; it's always a gamble.

Finally one reasonable post.

Yeah I totally understand. But this ban is not about piracy.
 
It's okay guys, he is selling his Xbox now.

Sve šta ide kada prvi put kupite konzolu. LT3.0+ na njemu ili kako god. Pored toga dajem preko 50 narezanih igara, sve vredno što je izašlo zadnje 2 godine + neki matori hitovi.

Pored toga spisak originala.

Znači

Konzola - (slim kraj 2011, perfektno stanje, nikada blokirao, nikada se pregrejao, 320gb hdd)

Kablovi

Gamepad

Kutija u odličnom stanju, možda ima nekih sranja na sebi od selotejpa.

Na konzoli ima shitload igara, LEGALNO KUPLJENHI I POTROŠENO PREKO 500€ SAMO NA TE GLUPOSTI!!!!!!!!!!!!

Dodaću sutra šta još ima.

170€

Everything that goes when you first buy a console. LT3.0 + on it or whatever. In addition I give over 50 sliced ​​games, all worth it surfaced last 2 years + some insane old hits.

In addition, a list of the original.

So

Console - (slim end of 2011, perfect condition, never blocked, never overheated, 320GB HDD)

Cables

Gamepad

The box is in excellent condition, may have some crap on it by Scotch tape.

The console has a shitload of games, LEGAL KUPLJENHI and spent over 500 € ONLY with such nonsense!!!!

Extras tomorrow what else has.

€ 170

Linky
 
Can someone please make a summary of this thread for us coming in due to the title change?

I'm wondering this as well

I see a thread title change, wha happened?

OP needs an update

HERE:
Can someone sum this up? Basically is this what happened:

-OP claims he was banned for dumb reasons
-Detective-GAF finds shady practices by OP
-OP actually pirated 360 games, is no longer fellow gaffer
-Nothing to do with Oman exploit
 
Can someone please make a summary of this thread for us coming in due to the title change?

I'm wondering this as well

Seriously. Anyone got a timeline on this?

I see a thread title change, wha happened?

OP needs an update

Can someone sum this up? Basically is this what happened:

-OP claims he was banned for dumb reasons
-Detective-GAF finds shady practices by OP
-OP actually pirated 360 games, is no longer fellow gaffer
-Nothing to do with Oman exploit

edit: beaten
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