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[GribbleGrunger]

Forza Motorsport 5 was exhibited at Tokyo Game Show, exposed to the Japanese press, and we know that the Japanese are big petrolheads. They love their car games. So I was quite interested in reading their previews of the game expecting high praise considering what I saw myself at Gamescom.

The first preview is now out, ran by the popular and quite respected website Game Watch and it’s very different from what I expected.

The writer, Seiji Nakamura, laments a severe visual downgrade from what he experienced at E3. The gist of the problem is that in the Forza 5 corner of the Microsoft booth things looked so bad that the monitors seemed badly adjusted. Aliasing and jaggies were standing out.

In the Forza 5 press room the situation was even worse, with the picture quality defined as “rough” like what you’d see if the output was 720p, with a definite visual degradation from the E3 version.

Nakamura-san continues by saying that the quality simply wasn’t the same as the original Forza 5, and the version he tried at Tokyo Game Show did not reach the level of the screenshots of the game at all. He actually asked a the Japanese product manager for the game bout the problem, and all he was told is that the folks at Microsoft are aware of the problem.

Before you think that Nakamura-san may be biased because he’s Japanese and Forza 5 is a Xbox One exclusive, moving past the graphical mishaps he actually gave quite high praise to the gameplay and the simulation quality.

The previous preview of the E3 build of the game on Game Watch, written by Nakamura-san himself, was also definitely glowing with praise. I’ll just tell you that its title was “The world’s ultimate racing game: Forza Motorsport 5″. That’s obviously not what someone biased against the game or the platform would write.

Below you can see an off-screen recording filmed by the folks at IGN at Microsoft’s booth. Unfortunately it’s quite hard to judge for ourselves from a video on YouTube. Hopefully the problems described by Nakamura-san are exclusively due to badly adjusted monitors, as what I saw of the game at Gamescom was definitely impressive, and it would be a pity to see it downgraded

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09...ts-severe-visual-degradation-from-e3-version/

 

[Iacobellis]

The sky just might have been clear that day.

 

[Dash Kappei]

The Internet must have been down that day

 

[Hilti92]

http://www.dualshockers.com/2013/09...ts-severe-visual-degradation-from-e3-version/

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

 

[Portugeezer]

Time to tweet Aaron Greenberg.

 

[MoeB]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

teehee

 

[def sim]

This could be what cboat meant by the shit storm? Maybe it's just monitor issues. Who knows? Forza 5 is supposed to be native 1080p, no?

The gist of the problem is that in the Forza 5 corner of the Microsoft booth things looked so bad that the monitors seemed badly adjusted.

with the picture quality defined as “rough” like what you’d see if the output was 720p

 

[lem0n]

I really hope, rather selfishly, that FM5 ends up being 'meh'. I really don't want to buy an Xbone.

 

[Bsigg12]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

I lol'ed too when I got to there. As it stands, I'll hold judgement until I can play a demo of it myself.

 

[R3TRO]

I'll take the wait and see approach, Jim.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

I really hope, rather selfishly, that FM5 ends up being 'meh'. I really don't want to buy an Xbone.

"Rather" , it's something you would expect from a ten year old

 

[CassidyIzABeast]

How much of this is "downgrade" vs "barren track"?

 

[Proelite]

The downgrade must have happened between Pax and TGS.

 

[SmokyDave]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

http://game.watch.impress.co.jp/docs/news/20130922_616498.html

If you can read Japanese, you can check it out for yourself. I assume anyway, I can't actually read Japanese.

 

[GribbleGrunger]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

It's not Dualshockers. They're quoting from a Japanese article that is written by someone who gave the original build a glowing report.

 

[pixlexic]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

That is first thing I saw. lol

 

[Portugeezer]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

They didn't say it, they're just reporting it.

But I thought the same thing when I saw the name of the website.

 

[onQ123]

What did I say the other day?

Looking at the new screens of DR3 & seeing how Ryse dropped from 1080P to 900P the 20% drop might be true.

But I haven't heard anything about Forza 5 taken any hits besides the sly remark by a Drive Club dev that might have been about Forza 5.

http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=82860573&postcount=91

 

[CrunchinJelly]

The downgrade must have happened between Pax and TGS.

which is strange when I believe the Forza demo at TGS is the same one from Gamescom.

 

[Portugeezer]

What did I say the other day?

I don't know. Would help if you just posted what you said.

Edit: cool

 

[i HeaR MusiC]

I'll believe it when it's coming from a more credible source. Haven't seen anyone else complaining.

 

[Slayer-33]

Poorly calibrated monitor? Didn't we see a stream that showed jaggies in showroom mode?

I'll believe it when it's coming from a more credible source. Haven't seen anyone else complaining.

Yep

 

[Vashetti]

Ruh roh.

 

[Punkster_NY]

Lol,
"Dualshockers.com"

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

 

[thehypocrite]

I'll believe it when it's coming from a more credible source. Haven't seen anyone else complaining.

Game and watch is a very reliable & serious publication.

 

[JaggedSac]

Wow, MS upclocks CPU and gpu and the result is games must be downgraded. Forza was running on the actual box even at e3.

 

[velociraptor]

Wasn't it CBOAT who originally mentioned that Microsoft will show souped up E3 demos? I'm pretty sure an 'insider' on this forum mentioned it.

In any case, that Leguna Sega video looks pretty bad.

Prague video still looks stunning to me though.

 

[LowEndTorque]

It's not Dualshockers. They're quoting from a Japanese article that is written by someone who gave the original build a glowing report.

Well, damn. Maybe this is what CBOAT was referring to after all.

 

[onQ123]

I don't know. Would help if you just posted what you said.

Look up.

 

[DarkLordMalik]

I'll believe it when it's coming from a more credible source. Haven't seen anyone else complaining.

Dualshockers is merely quoting a Japanese blog. Game.Watch is the source. Anyone knows if they are biased towards PS4 or not?

 

[Salex_]

Does this mean that day/night and weather is being added to the game now?

 

[onQ123]

Wasn't it CBOAT who originally mentioned that Microsoft will show souped up E3 demos? I'm pretty sure an 'insider' on this forum mentioned it.

In any case, that Leguna Sega video looks horrible. Looks worse than GT5. I hope the final game looks as good as the Czech video.

Bird, Bird ,Bird, Bird's The Word!

 

[thehypocrite]

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

What's with the blinding sun? No window tinting?

 

[Pseudo judo]

I'll believe it when it's coming from a more credible source. Haven't seen anyone else complaining.

.

You would think the gaming press would be all over this considering that there is little else worth covering at TGS. I'll do the wait and see thing on a large grain of salt.

 

[lem0n]

"Rather" , it's something you would expect from a ten year old

...lol? What should I be using, then? Kinda? Sorta?

 

[watership]

MAN, the graphics look so sparse. It's like driving in a barren dry lake bed.

Spoiler

Laguna Seca is Spanish for "dry lagoon". The course was built around the dry lake bed.

 

[Abriael]

Dualshockers is merely quoting a Japanese blog. Game.Watch is the source. Anyone knows if they are biased towards PS4 or not?

This particular journalist (it's actually a very large journalistic website, part of a network that you could compare to the biggest western ones, not a blog) is actually very positive towards the forza franchise normally.

His preview for the E3 build calls Forza 5 "the ultimate racing game."

 

[RoboPlato]

Let's hope it was just the monitors with the sharpness cranked too high.

The Internet must have been down that day

This got me.

 

[digoutyoursoul]

...lol? What should I be using, then? Kinda? Sorta?

How about "I should grow up"

What you said is something you would expect from a child

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

What did I say the other day?





http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=82860573&postcount=91

Yep, seems like every showing of an XBO game gets less and less impressive for most launch games except maybe Killer Instinct, which is already running at 720p.

November still can't come soon enough.

 

[stryke]

Have there been many direct feeds of forza?

 

[Cidd]

I'll wait until the final release not jumping to any conclusions yet.

 

[nynt9]

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

The lighting is way over the top, also what happens at 1:22 and 1:42? Is it the lighting glitching out or a flash from someone in the room?

Either way, it's hard to tell from an offscreen video. It looks like there are jaggies, but that might just be the video quality.

 

[New002]

Well, this is a little worrisome.

 

[Arklite]

Looks ok on my phone aside from that horrendous lighting glitch. Crunch time.

 

[Portugeezer]

The video speaks for itself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rdG81jhSie8

Worse than I expected. Hope it's just a bad video.

Wasn't it CBOAT who originally mentioned that Microsoft will show souped up E3 demos? I'm pretty sure an 'insider' on this forum mentioned it.

That is all that could explain this video, should it look like that at launch.

 

[thuway]

I guess, Forza 5 needed to be balanced.

 

[Alcoholikaust]

hmmm here's hoping it will work out-was really looking forward to this but that YouTube vid looks terrible.

 

[ShapeGSX]

Worse than I expected. Hope it's just a bad video.



That is all that could explain this video, should it look like that at launch.

Oh sure, it will have video compression artifacts built in at launch.

 

[BLACK AMERICAN PSYCHO]

I guess, Forza 5 needed to be balanced.

*chuckle*