Fighting Games Weekly | Sept 23-29 | Beauty and the Beast

What if in a 3/5 set you start out with one ban and the loser of each game gets to ban an additional character
I think what they should do is that bans should be valid for one match and the loser can decide to restart the ban phase.

So for example Match 1: Player 1 bans Doom, Player 2 bans Vergil. Player 1 loses goes back to character select screen.

Match 1: Player 1 changes bans to Wolverine, Player 2 bans Vergil. If bans are changed then you have to re-pick and re-ban but if only picks are being changed then player 2 is locked in to his picks and bans where as player 1 is just locked into his ban.


For the tournament they just did 1 ban each which applied for the whole set. Easier that way for the first time.
 
Is WNF/the run bakc still showcasing DOA5U?

I hope after the TFC people see DOA5U is a great game to be shown at locals. I have no faith in mah east coast guys (Aside from Hubbs) to showcase this game. So West coast don't let me down.

WNF had it on for the past couple of weeks. It's really on the people to show up for it.

Just thought of something about FG's on PC. Would a Steambox be sufficient to solve the differing systems problem?

I don't think so because the problems we have now with console won't be there come next gen. It's an interesting alternative, but also opens a door to other problems to deal with.

Much lower payouts than I expected. Though maybe I expected too much considering Capcom's current financial situation.

It's still better than nothing. Plus Capcom has to spend money to fly people out and host the event. I'm just glad that Capcom is doing something, that the event is on X360, and that AE is 3/5.
 
Good to know I will push my Cali friends to go to these events. (Right now I'm on the east coast til may)

How is the KOF scene going? I have not heard too much noise on their front...
 
The AE pay out is pretty much what I expected. The difference is that I expected Marvel and SFxT to have the same pay out but that's not the case. It's a little disappointing that Marvel's pay out is pretty much only twice as much as a typical major.
 
The AE pay out is pretty much what I expected. The difference is that I expected Marvel and SFxT to have the same pay out but that's not the case. It's a little disappointing that Marvel's pay out is pretty much only twice as much as a typical major.

Capcom Cup Rules and Payout is out

Both SFXT and UMvC3 have the same payout

1st- $3,000
2nd-$1,500
3rd- $500


AE is different

1st- $6,000
2nd- $3,000
3rd- $1,000

All games are going to be run on 360

Rules

You expected right my fellow E. Ryu

EDIT:
He's saying the same payout as AE.

lol ok, thanks, I got it ^^
 
I didn't expect UMVC3 to have the same payout as AE obviously because UMVC3 didn't have big qualifiers.

God damn when are they going to announce the names!
 
Players may not use any glitch or bug that prevents the game from being played, including but not limited to bugs causing the game to freeze, reset, remove character from play zone or similar results.

I think I figured out why Desk doesn't go to tourneys
 
It's still better than nothing. Plus Capcom has to spend money to fly people out and host the event. I'm just glad that Capcom is doing something, that the event is on X360, and that AE is 3/5.

This is all true. Could've been better, but it's still enough to be very thankful for.
 
Right now they don't have a new game to sell yet. They'll probably be more generous after USF4 is out if they decide to do another Capcom Cup again.
 
Right now they don't have a new game to sell yet. They'll probably be more generous after USF4 is out if they decide to do another Capcom Cup again.

I expect them to reveal or tease the 5th character at Capcom Cup. It's strange how quiet they were with USF4 at TGS.
 
I don't know about general consensus but people were having a lot of fun with it at the Norcal Weekly. A lot of people were exposed as one trick ponies... even FChamp himself was looking like a fish out of water without his Magneto.

At the very least they admitted that it was a useful exercise in order for people to get better with their other characters and there was less auto pilot in lower brackets. A lot of new strategies had to be developed on the fly including new teams.

Now as far as it being adopted for general play... I don't think that will ever happen. Also even this ruleset needs more fine tuning because I think if they are doing one character ban that character should be banned for both players not just one player.

As far as LoL/DOTA ban goes, it was a bit different than what they did for the UMVC3 tournament. For the UMVC3 tournament they just had one ban per player and that only applied to one player (so if FChamp banned ShadyK's Vergil, he himself could still use Vergil if he wanted).

In a MOBA game, the banning is as follows (well I am just going to give the DOTA 2 format because that's the game I play). Team 1 bans first, other team bans 2 characters, Team 1 bans 4th character. Team 2 gets first pick. In MOBA games a character that is banned or picked is basically removed from play so even picks are very strategic because when you pick something the other player can't pick the same thing. This goes on until there are 10 bans and 10 picks. There's a ton of strategy involved in this drafting phase and it forces teams to be versatile in their playstyle, strategy and team picks.

The MOBA games are balanced around this drafting though... there's a whole mode called Captain's Pick where you do these banning. Even the order in which you ban and pick is how the game is balanced (just recently they changed it around to add more strategy to it).
I believe Hi I'm Nasty went 0-2 after having Skrull banned. :-P

Hopefully they're doing a PS4/XB1 version of USF4. It's easy money.
 
I believe Hi I'm Nasty went 0-2 after having Skrull banned. :-P
Read my post tournament summary. I specifically listed that Hi Iam Nasty went 0-2 with Skrull banned.

And he wasn't the only one... quite a few people went 0-2 when their Vergil or Zero were banned.
 
Read my post tournament summary. I specifically listed that Hi Iam Nasty went 0-2 with Skrull banned.

And he wasn't the only one... quite a few people went 0-2 when their Vergil or Zero were banned.
Match case on ctrl-F is the worst. (I also quoted the wrong massive block of text. :-P)
 
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Dat Power level
 
Catalyst on ad block stuff

Everything he says is pretty reasonable. Though when he says a "significant" number of people switched off their adblock for EH and that their numbers are where they need to be, I wonder how significantly their traffic has also decreased in turn.

At the end of the day, though, trying to make a living off of a niche gaming site like EH is like trying to squeeze water out of a rock. I hope none of these guys have families and kids to support.

I wonder if, instead of trying to pay everyone, it might be a better idea for them to get some young college kids to do pro-bono grunt work in return for having something interesting to put on their resume. That way the paid staff has more time to work on original content. If EH had a lot more original, compelling content, the ad block stuff would at least be a bit easier to swallow, and it would probably be healthy for the site as a whole.
 
The only one I've heard so far for sfxt is Nuckle Du.
Yeah, they won't announce them until they have 8 locked. Sethlolol and Infiltration are the two obvious invites. I'm hoping one of the top-ranked japanese online 2-person teams gets an invite. Would be fun to see if they can hang.
 
So I applied for a preview to the "Fighting Game Mastery" video.

I gave my e-mail and it took them almost a day to get back to me.

I get an e-mail today with a link to download the preview. I click on it and it links me to the torrent of the video.

Only thing is that the torrent has no leeches or seeds so how the fuck am I supposed to download it?

This is such a god damn failure of a product already. Upload the preview on Youtube already holy shit...
 
So I applied for a preview to the "Fighting Game Mastery" video.

I gave my e-mail and it took them almost a day to get back to me.

I get an e-mail today with a link to download the preview. I click on it and it links me to the torrent of the video.

Only thing is that the torrent has no leeches or seeds so how the fuck am I supposed to download it?

This is such a god damn failure of a product already. Upload the preview on Youtube already holy shit...

What a joke.
 
So I applied for a preview to the "Fighting Game Mastery" video.

I gave my e-mail and it took them almost a day to get back to me.

I get an e-mail today with a link to download the preview. I click on it and it links me to the torrent of the video.

Only thing is that the torrent has no leeches or seeds so how the fuck am I supposed to download it?

This is such a god damn failure of a product already. Upload the preview on Youtube already holy shit...

The torrent contains a text file with the link to the direct download, but you have to sign up for another website to be able to download.
 
If I wait 5 seconds than hit "skip the rest" on Youtube, do you earn anything? Do you earn anything from "likes"?

AFAIK yeah, (about skipping ads) Likes boost up the videos rankings as well (but it's not for earning anything)

So I applied for a preview to the "Fighting Game Mastery" video.

I gave my e-mail and it took them almost a day to get back to me.

I get an e-mail today with a link to download the preview. I click on it and it links me to the torrent of the video.

Only thing is that the torrent has no leeches or seeds so how the fuck am I supposed to download it?

This is such a god damn failure of a product already. Upload the preview on Youtube already holy shit...

I've been seeding that torrent for a few days, seems like people are having problems connecting to it? I was able to grab it fine. The zip file is just a few video previews and audio, it's not malicious at all.

Re: Eventhubs going in on adblock. Everyone that produces content knows adblock lights them up. I wouldn't go as far as limiting adblock like EH has, but I did donate to them for a years worth/20$ since I know how it is trying to make internet ad money (really hard, basically 1 paid subscriber equals thousands of ppl watching ads) SRK on the other hand is fortunate to have the cannons to back the site I'm sure it's been a loss leader for years until probably within the last few or so.
 
I just want to know about Youtube's commercials. I am willing to sit through a commercial if you guys make more money. I may even hit like, though I never have before, to help you guys out. I don't use adblock at home or at work.

edit: answered, thanks Art.
 
Re: Eventhubs going in on adblock. Everyone that produces content knows adblock lights them up. I wouldn't go as far as limiting adblock like EH has, but I did donate to them for a years worth/20$ since I know how it is trying to make internet ad money (really hard, basically 1 paid subscriber equals thousands of ppl watching ads) SRK on the other hand is fortunate to have the cannons to back the site I'm sure it's been a loss leader for years until probably within the last few or so.

Damn dawg, you still rolling in that SF4 stimulus package money?
 
Damn dawg, you still rolling in that SF4 stimulus package money?
Nope. I just try to manage my money better and plan out and budget for events/tournaments or games/equipment I want to buy, as well as having to replace equipment from time to time. I barely make any $$ from tourneys anymore lol, except when OneFrameLink sponsors events and I randomly win $1500-2000 for SFXT at ECT lol.

I just want to know about Youtube's commercials. I am willing to sit through a commercial if you guys make more money. I may even hit like, though I never have before, to help you guys out. I don't use adblock at home or at work.

edit: answered, thanks Art.

If you want to learn a little bit more about how the economics of the ad system work on youtube, should probably watch this presentation from Jason Jason Calacanis (he was one of the YT partners that got funding from YT to do shows), and talks about how the revenue split is unsustainable (for people producing high quality content like tv shows), etc. (this doesnt apply to gaming as much since barriers to entry are much lower, (compared to a syndicated show of course, but there are still considerable costs for 1 person to do this - unless you're doing crazy crazy productions like Maxmillians which obviously cost a fair amount of $$) but it can give you a idea of how the economics of it all work.

Knowing what the CPM's are on YT I'm guessing that its just as bad on websites

after seeing this, you can probably get a better sense of why people (especially bigger channels/websites) try to co-opt their brand by selling products/services and what not. also breaks down how YT doesn't let you have control of your subscribers (for example you don't have access to your own subscriber email list, so you can't build a email db to push products and services to your fans outside YT.) I know Gootecks was at vidcon, makes sense why he would try to start a email list if anything for his paid tutorials

It's reasons like this which is why I went from being a adblock monster to whitelisting or paying for services that I use. Wish there was a better alternative though :(

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jb2AOdGcYsE

On another FG topic: I wonder how much that Injustice patch is going to change the game. Reading the patch notes leads me to believe that the changes wont be as drastic as SFXT 2012 to 2013 version. I've always thought if chars across the board had the mobility of batgirl, BA or Supes (before those 2 got movement nerfs in the patch) it would solve a ton of issues. but i'll give it a shot and see how it goes.
 
Front page SRK is the same if not worse but they dont have a adblock policy like EH.

Yeah, I stopped going to SRK long time ago. I remember going there at work and I got some dating website ad with an almost NSFW chick on it, just a bad look.

BTW, I bet the only loss leader is GGPO for the Cannon brothers. The website probably could make back the monthly fee.
 
Yeah the youtube thing is strange. My co-worker gets a couple of bucks every month from videos of him showing off steam powered rc cars or another co worker showing off maker faire stuff.
Its enough for him to take his family out for a "youtube meal".

SRK is annoying because it has audio Ads.
 
Advanced Fighting Game Discussion with LordKnight

He mostly refers to P4A but you can apply it to everything.

On another FG topic: I wonder how much that Injustice patch is going to change the game. Reading the patch notes leads me to believe that the changes wont be as drastic as SFXT 2012 to 2013 version. I've always thought if chars across the board had the mobility of batgirl, BA or Supes (before those 2 got movement nerfs in the patch) it would solve a ton of issues. but i'll give it a shot and see how it goes.

Do you think batgirl is going to wreak havoc?
 
You can still make a sustainable site even with folks adblocking but you need to make it a place that has a big enough draw to bring in advertisers and viewers. It takes a lot of work. NeoGAF is run entirely on ads and unintrusive ones at that. So it's definitely a possibility, even for a site like EH. It's not like this place was magically huge from the get go.

Granted, there's a few significant differences between this site and EH but still, I think it's quite possible.
 
Well I saw the Fighting Game mastery preview video. It was good, it really depends on how long the whole thing is. The Marvel portion was fairly informative for high level play although only really applicable to the characters FChamp plays.

I also filled out the survey and gave my honest opinions. Lack of game play hurts the product even if you have a general gist of what he is saying. Some topics are extremely broad while others are very specific (like the Marvel section will go over most people's head if they don't know about high level game play).
 
Advanced Fighting Game Discussion with LordKnight

He mostly refers to P4A but you can apply it to everything.



Do you think batgirl is going to wreak havoc?

Hell yes. Safe vortex requiring no meter, can cancel her bola into massive meter gain, (which means she should win most wager situations) unzoneable for the most part, interactables dont work on her etc..and now her cartwheel got fixed supposedly (last hit would be duckable by certain chars making for a easy punish.) She's a monster
 
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