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diablos991 said:
That'll only get you to 3m, added to your 2.5m only puts you at 5.5m.
You should be plenty safe unless you get another 200 of those and sell them.
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It's roughly 5.5m on my server, so i'd be at 8m, not counting 1-2m in already-crafted stuff and 1-2m in stacks of gold\crawler\spruce\darksteel, both refined or not.

Ohwell, goldsellers are all about liquid gil, it's probably only about it. I'll make a point of staying under 3-4m.

(I bought Potash at 20k, and it spiked to 60.. i don't know if i should be happy or sad about this, considering i'd like even more of the damn thing)
 
Aureon said:
It's roughly 5.5m on my server, so i'd be at 8m, not counting 1-2m in already-crafted stuff and 1-2m in stacks of gold\crawler\spruce\darksteel, both refined or not.

Ohwell, goldsellers are all about liquid gil, it's probably only about it. I'll make a point of staying under 3-4m.

(I bought Potash at 20k, and it spiked to 60.. i don't know if i should be happy or sad about this, considering i'd like even more of the damn thing)
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If one is scared of market fluctuation and still wants liquidity, they could buy those coin things from the quests.

A wise gil seller would stockpile those.
 
Mairu said:
Can you explain to me how you rationalize that? What the fuck is someone supposed to do to prevent that? It's not like they're marked bills or that there's even a way to prevent individuals from buying your stuff on the market board

The problem with their method of determining the average level is they include all classes.

So let's say someone decides to level one class to 50. Well, in order to get their job they have to level another class to 15. This would mean that for one person with a level 50 job - their level to S-E is 32.5 I'd really be interested in seeing census statistics that don't include 'every' class someone has leveled.
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Pretty sure SE's rational is simply freezing accounts with what they believe to be inordinate amounts of money. It has nothing to do with "tainted" money or GS'ers/GB'ers buying your goods, that sounds like some bullshit people have made up to paint SE the villain and cast the whole situation in an air of ridiculousness. Obviously it's unfair to "legitimate" players (though anyone with 10+ million has certainly done their fair share of exploiting, legal or otherwise) and likely overkill, but it's nice to see they're serious about stopping it.
 
The STF is always out in force at the end of the month guys.

I mean seriously, when shit like this is happening, what do you expect?
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The guys selling gil through this are basically doing the STF's job for them... Christ.
 
studyguy said:
The STF is always out in force at the end of the month guys.

I mean seriously, when shit like this is happening, what do you expect?
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The guys selling gil through this are basically doing the STF's job for them... Christ.
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Yeah, keeping all Gil liquid and freaking mailing every customer their order seems pretty ridiculous if you are concerned with bans.

There is an obvious paper trail to you and your customers. Definitely not a viable long term solution.

I would expect more face-to-face trading in the next wave.
 
diablos991 said:
Yeah, keeping all Gil liquid and freaking mailing every customer their order seems pretty ridiculous if you are concerned with bans.

There is an obvious paper trail to you and your customers. Definitely not a viable long term solution.

I would expect more face-to-face trading in the next wave.
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Not only that, but one would assume you would use a less conspicuous name than EZ PAY.
 
Gonna be a lot of pissed off people especially legacy players who have well over that. It's abit ridiculous to do this to paying customers and all because Square Enix has no idea how to deal with the RMT just like they had no idea how to in 1.0.

Banning people because of the Gil they have yet the same bots have been farming away in the same spots for weeks. They honestly need to ban these people and all accounts and characters associated with said account. They need reps running around the world catching and banning these people which isn't hard because they are right in the open.
 
Cmagus said:
Gonna be a lot of pissed off people especially legacy players who have well over that. It's abit ridiculous to do this to paying customers and all because Square Enix has no idea how to deal with the RMT just like they had no idea how to in 1.0.

Banning people because of the Gil they have yet the same bots have been farming away in the same spots for weeks. They honestly need to ban these people and all accounts and characters associated with said account. They need reps running around the world catching and banning these people which isn't hard because they are right in the open.
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Apparently it's only happening on non-legacy servers, must be far easier to nail the outliers when there isn't a ton of legacy gil floating around.
 
Banning legitimate customers just because they have a lot of Gil is mental. When theyre found "innocent" will they be getting a credit for the three days of their subscription that was wasted? I cant imagine so. Ive fifty plus people in my blacklist, not one of them has been deleted. Its a lot easier to catch them then it is to ban people who know how to work the market

Isaccard said:
What's the name of the FC on Ultros that are trying to sell Titan runs?
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Saw a chap called Lord Garuda getting reamed in Mor shout chat for it, so whatever guild he's in
 
Uthred said:
Banning legitimate customers just because they have a lot of Gil is mental. When theyre found "innocent" will they be getting a credit for the three days of their subscription that was wasted? I cant imagine so. Ive fifty plus people in my blacklist, not one of them has been deleted. Its a lot easier to catch them then it is to ban people who know how to work the market



Saw a chap called Lord Garuda getting reamed in Mor shout chat for it, so whatever guild he's in
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Yeah, there's a whole thread on Reddit about it. People are pretty upset about it apprently because they're sabotaging pug runs to sell carries to desperate players.
 
Selling Titan runs isn't really the thing that's kinda gross, it's the people sabotaging runs so that people get desperate enough to pay a lot for a Titan run that's icky.
 
Aeana said:
Selling Titan runs isn't really the thing that's kinda gross, it's the people sabotaging runs so that people get desperate enough to pay a lot for a Titan run that's icky.
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Yeah, selling Titan is legit.

Sabotaging to create a market for yourself is a real dick move. They purposely join to stack plumes and/or die to make sure they don't finish.
 
it's not that it's 'icky', it's how worthwhile it is.

1) need 5-6 other people who can do titan on at the same time while...
2) standing around trying to find someone willing to pay who...
3) has incentives to not go to one of the already established titan sellers which means...
4) you'll probably have to undercut them while being able to provide a one shot kill...
5) which will probably yield about 20k per person
 
Aeana said:
Selling Titan runs isn't really the thing that's kinda gross, it's the people sabotaging runs so that people get desperate enough to pay a lot for a Titan run that's icky.
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Yeah this, its not selling the runs that's whats got people on ultros up in arms. It's the FC's going into pugs for titan and purposely ruining the run so people will get "desperate" and pay for a run. Slimy practice(and rather pointless, you're not gonna pull much more clientele this way) indeed. It's just simply not worth the trouble for a couple extra sells. Lol
 
Sorry again for abandoning that CM party on such short notice.

I blame darkness tear for jinxing me into having to leave for the same reason
 
Alucrid said:
it's not that it's 'icky', it's how worthwhile it is.

1) need 5-6 other people who can do titan on at the same time while...
2) standing around trying to find someone willing to pay who...
3) has incentives to not go to one of the already established titan sellers which means...
4) you'll probably have to undercut them while being able to provide a one shot kill...
5) which will probably yield about 20k per person
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No, it's definitely icky. Can't say I give a crap how much profit they're making. Sabotaging runs is disgusting.
 
I don 't think I've played for a week or two :O
I need to start back this weekend.

Oh, people sabatoging and selling Titan runs huh? Virtual economies for the win!

I was really wanting to opt out of the AH after being rich in WoW and not wanting to fool with the BS anymore, but having no income at 50 makes that idea hard.
 
I have no intention of paying for a goddamned Titan HM run, so I hope this isn't as much of an issue in 10 levels.

Besides, I can always get four of you guys to help my team out, right?

Right? :)

...Guys?
 
Aeana said:
No, it's definitely icky. Can't say I give a crap how much profit they're making. Sabotaging runs is disgusting.
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If that's for real, it's sounds like SE needs to be combing some people's chat logs and handing out perma bans accordingly. Probably need to bring this to the attention of GM's.
 
diablos991 said:
Yeah, keeping all Gil liquid and freaking mailing every customer their order seems pretty ridiculous if you are concerned with bans.

There is an obvious paper trail to you and your customers. Definitely not a viable long term solution.

I would expect more face-to-face trading in the next wave.
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I'm not sure it would matter. If its anything like modern day WoW then the paper trail is there no matter what you do in game.
 
Item Box said:
I'm just gonna wait on Sunday, as I can't even tell if someone's playing double agent or if the pugs are legit bad anymore
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I'll do Titan with you. Honestly, you don't need to bother with randoms, there's people in the FC who need it too or would like to help.
 
Titan was a difficult fight, but now it feels like getting anyone to go to CM or AK so I can get the tomes to finish the relic quest is even more difficult.
 
Aeana said:
Titan was a difficult fight, but now it feels like getting anyone to go to CM or AK so I can get the tomes to finish the relic quest is even more difficult.
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i'll go!


[10:00 a.m.]You have entered a sanctuary.
[10:01 a.m.]Tiv Einsfell has logged out.
 
Teknoman said:
Just 20 more levels....

In all seriousness, you should have a second wave of help incoming.
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I'll second that. I am in the range where most my crafts/gathering are 28-34 and I'm about to start my runs to 50 DoL/DoH/BRD. Give it a few more weeks and I'll run all the CM you want
 
Kokonoe said:
Did they nerf the graphics for ARR?

Thanalan Final Fantasy XIV 1.0

I take it this is because of PS3?
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Dunno about the environments, but the character models have clearly taken a hit going from 1.0 > 2.0. And yeah, it(along with other things such as zoning) was due to the PS3 version

Aeana said:
I'll do Titan with you. Honestly, you don't need to bother with randoms, there's people in the FC who need it too or would like to help.
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I can never find enough people, even in the FC. Guess I'm just on at the wrong times
 
I'll do CM and Prae speedruns all the time...just as soon as I can find the time and people to finish my Prae Story run :p

CUTSCENES ARE NOT A CRIME!
 
xintin said:
I'll do CM and Prae speedruns all the time...just as soon as I can find the time and people to finish my Prae Story run :p

CUTSCENES ARE NOT A CRIME!
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If you're on Ultros and need a healer for that, let me know (character name is Tiv Einsfell).
I'll watch the cutscenes right along with you.
 
studyguy said:
The STF is always out in force at the end of the month guys.

I mean seriously, when shit like this is happening, what do you expect?
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The guys selling gil through this are basically doing the STF's job for them... Christ.
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What am I looking at?

Sir Griffith said:
What about the most efficient order in which you get them? Accessories first, or save for the armor pieces first?
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Accessories definitely for me, because: 1) Good accessories are harder to come by 2) They are cheaper, so you'll upgrade faster 3) AK has 5 chests, 4 of them drop armor pieces, so it's easier to gear your armor slots.

Also, I'm not really a fan of DL body for tanks and mages. I'll probably just buy AF2 body for my scholar once I hit 50.
 
Aeana said:
If you're on Ultros and need a healer for that, let me know (character name is Tiv Einsfell).
I'll watch the cutscenes right along with you.
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I have a question since you are a healer as well.

I'm at level 40 now and I have a crapload of spells now and I was wondering what's the best way to set up my cross bar on PS3?
 
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