Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 2: Where Pilotwings is apparently Minecraft

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Ive been waiting for this ever since I seen megaman do it lol. Good sakurai
 
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simply amazing
now, Sonic really had its renessance on the Wii (imho) especially with Colors, and it will continue with Lost World.
So, now...you all know that Megaman really deserves a similar destiny with e brand new game with that model on the Wii U

(yes, I know about "N°9 Kickstarter)
 
You know, with the Lost World stage (and apparent Galaxy stage) I'm a bit disappointed that it seems like a bit of a wasted opportunity to not have a stage with orbital gravity in a Smash Bros stage.

I can just imagine in a Galaxy stage that every KO would act as a vertical one where the character disappears in the distance, but instead of disappearing in a twinkle they get sucked up by a black hole instead.

Would be neat.
 
This is truth. I mean, Brawl sonic just reeked of "too kewl for skewl" early 2000's angst. Wii U-era Sonic makes him fit better with Mario and friends.

huh? how so, he has shorter quills and his mouth is on the side.

That's about it. You might be projecting a bit. And if you mean looking angry while he fights, then mario and most of the smash bros cast is angsty too.
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I know how its hip and cool with kids nowadays to act like because they do not like a thang , they are all of a sudden mature, I dont personally get it because who cares. But Come on now, they design changes they gave sonic are minimal.

Also they have changed sonic's mouth a buncha times, they are not consisnat with this , next sonic game he could have middle mouth or both, so I wouldn't really count that as a design change rather than something that fluctuates on their mood.
 
I don't know man, he looks a lot more charitable with a side mouth. Compare this edit.

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This shit is more real than Green Eyes.

Also they have changed sonic's mouth a buncha times, they are not consisnat with this , next sonic game he could have middle mouth or both, so I wouldn't really count that as a design change rather than something that fluctuates on their mood.

Nah, it's a consistent and intentional design change. In-game it'd always be at the front of his mouth and that hasn't been seen in a Sonic game since 06, when it was at it's worst. After that they openly admitted that the goal in Unleashed and forward was to have it on his side like in the illustrations so it could animate better, like a cartoon.
 
Nah, it's a consistent and intentional design change. Front mouth hasn't been seen in a Sonic game since 06, when it was at it's worst. After that they openly admitted that the goal in Unleashed and forward was to have it on his side like in the illustrations so it could animate better, like a cartoon.

I'm am going to stick with this and say, it fluctuates, even in pre 06 games it fluctuated. I feel like that inconsistency was more cartoony than what has going on now.
 
Not surprised they're giving Sonic the cartoon-style details he needs. Brawl came at a very unfortunate time (soon after Sonic 06) so of course his model there was a bit wonky.
 
Hmm, the ruins and the grass in the background of that pic look a little low res. Beyond that though looks fantastic. If I was a Sonic fan, I'm sure I'd be excited about this pairing.
 
Nah, it's a consistent and intentional design change. In-game it'd always be at the front of his mouth and that hasn't been seen in a Sonic game since 06, when it was at it's worst. After that they openly admitted that the goal in Unleashed and forward was to have it on his side like in the illustrations so it could animate better, like a cartoon.

Depends on the game and developer as well. The Soichi Olympics game seems to actively be doing middle mouth (even in the CG) and the All-Stars racing titles both have middle mouth. It's just been the normal Sonic titles that do it, and it's probably more of a tech thing that the other devs don't care as much about.

Not to mention it's super inconsistent on Sonic characters anyway. In generations Sonic, knuckles, shadow, silver, espio and rouge have side mouths, but Tails, cream, blaze, amy and charmy have middle-mouths. Eh.
 
Depends on the game and developer as well. The Soichi Olympics game seems to actively be doing middle mouth (even in the CG) and the All-Stars racing titles both have middle mouth. It's just been the normal Sonic titles that do it, and it's probably more of a tech thing that the other devs don't care as much about.

Not to mention it's super inconsistent on Sonic characters anyway. In generations Sonic, knuckles, shadow, silver, espio and rouge have side mouths, but Tails, cream, blaze, amy and charmy have middle-mouths. Eh.

Sonic himself kind of cheats it anyway, since his in-game model since Unleashed has just had a mouth on both sides of his face.
 
Sonic himself kind of cheats it anyway, since his in-game model since Unleashed has just had a mouth on both sides of his face.

Actually only Generations had two mouth models on each side, Unleashed used one and flipped it via animation. Which is why it looked odd on one side and correct on the other side.

Edit: Either way I want this sonic to have a modeled side mouth and not a texture, this model swap thing doesn't really cut it for me since he has that Nike symbol on him for that opened mouth. But there is some other picture from the 1080p ones that he has a modeled middle mouth with the Sonic and Megaman pic. I hope that textured mouth is just a place holder, I do love that in the video his mouth actually swaps sides. Nice touch they did there for that.
 
Some lurker in the IRC chat many months ago (I think around June?) was absolutely convinced that Sonic was going to be cut just because Mega Man has a very similar Up Smash attack. LOL


Same dude was the one who thought Zero would be a better pick than Mega Man prior to the reveal just because "HE HAS SO MUCH MORE WEAPONS". (protip: he doesnt)
 
Did anyone ever tweet to Kojima about Snake? I was mind-bogging when I was thinking about how fans and reporters annoyed SEGA and workers about Sonic but no one did for Kojima and Snake.

GAFFERs and Lurkers, DO YOUR JOB. TWEET OR ASK KOJIMA ABOUT SNAKE.
 
Depends on the game and developer as well. The Soichi Olympics game seems to actively be doing middle mouth (even in the CG) and the All-Stars racing titles both have middle mouth. It's just been the normal Sonic titles that do it, and it's probably more of a tech thing that the other devs don't care as much about.

Not to mention it's super inconsistent on Sonic characters anyway. In generations Sonic, knuckles, shadow, silver, espio and rouge have side mouths, but Tails, cream, blaze, amy and charmy have middle-mouths. Eh.

Looked into it, you're right about the Sochi model having the front-mouth, but the actual CG models they came out with have a side-mouth. I haven't seen any actual CG cutscenes though, the one they came out with yesterday was running in-engine.

That said, I think the reason they've kept it like that is because of asset-reuse. All the models seem to be models they brought back from the previous games, only touched up, and the actual CG cutscenes they came out with in the previous game used the placement properly so it's weird for them to just change that if the mouth placement is now on the front. I assume the reason CG cutscenes get the detail right is because from my knowledge they're always done by an internal team Sega has that simply works on CGI clips and movies (those are the guys who made that Sonic halloween movie the year Unleashed came out).

As for people talking about Tails/Amy's mouth placement... I don't know, I assume it is to make them look "cuter"? Their eyes are rounded compared to the other characters as well, and with the front placement they look like they have puffier cheeks. Maybe that's the reason Sonic looks a bit douchey with a front mouth, because everything else is designed to make him look cooler.

I can't believe I'm putting effort into discussing mouth placement lol
 
A friend of mine made these some years ago and I saved em to my PC. Though I'd share.

















 
So, I know we someone requested no pokemon x and y spoilers so I will be cryptic (even though it was an official video released today by game freak and info on those videos has been previously posted here and discussed) anyone think the other pokemon that was announced to have two seperate mega evolutions will have representation in the same way that's been suggested for mewtwo, with two different/random final smashes?
 
So, I know we someone requested no pokemon x and y spoilers so I will be cryptic (even though it was an official video released today by game freak and info on those videos has been previously posted here and discussed) anyone think the other pokemon that was announced to have two seperate mega evolutions will have representation in the same way that's been suggested for mewtwo, with two different/random final smashes?
Honestly, Mewtwo will probably Mega Evolve for its Final Smash and Jigglypuff might have some Fairy-inspired moves, but that will be it for X/Y representation. I've got a feeling Pokémon Trainer and Lucario's Final Smashes will be the same as in Brawl.

Multiple Mega Evolutions would be over-representing a single new mechanic, and it makes the most sense to go with Mega Mewtwo since that was the first one revealed (and the most prominent).
 
Did anyone ever tweet to Kojima about Snake? I was mind-bogging when I was thinking about how fans and reporters annoyed SEGA and workers about Sonic but no one did for Kojima and Snake.

GAFFERs and Lurkers, DO YOUR JOB. TWEET OR ASK KOJIMA ABOUT SNAKE.

He probably ignores the tweets, Kamiya gets tweeted about smash too but the difference is he actively shames the tweeters, lol.
 
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