Diprosalic
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game is really neat so far. almost not mad anymore at lack of new pokemanz.
Pokemon X and Y Leaks, Releases Early
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Winterfang
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Sure. Try to draw a Knight. Think of the features that make it stand out as a Knight instead of a Viking or Samurai or Any other kind of armor and check the ones he lacks.
Sword: No.
Shield: No.
Lance: No.
Visor: No.
Helmet: No.
Silver Color: No
Cape: No.
Chest plate: No.
Shoulder pads: No.
Knee caps: No.
Funky Hair on Helmet: No.
Boots: No.
Steel Gloves: No.
Any kind of Body armor whatsoever: No.
Some kind of Knight like stance: No.
Also I would given that Gamefreak might had took some liberties with the Knight design but Escavalier exists, he covers at least 3 basic tropes yet no one would deny he is based on a Knight. If you can provide a convincing counter argument then I'll be happy to change my tune but I honestly don't see it.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Sure. Try to draw a Knight. Think of the features that make it stand out as a Knight instead of a Viking or Samurai or Any other kind of armor and check the ones he lacks.
Sword: No.
Shield: No.
Lance: No.
Visor: No.
Helmet: No.
Silver Color: No
Cape: No.
Chest plate: No.
Shoulder pads: No.
Knee caps: No.
Funky Hair on Helmet: No.
Boots: No.
Steel Gloves: No.
Any kind of Body armor whatsoever: No.
Some kind of Knight like stance: No.
Also I would given that Gamefreak might had took some liberties with the Knight design but Escavalier exists, he covers at least 3 basic tropes yet no one would deny he is based on a Knight. If you can provide a convincing counter argument then I'll be happy to change my tune but I honestly don't see it.
I would actually like to try this if you would give me an hour.
I already disagree on the cape and shoulder pads though. It's pretty blatant that's what they're going for with the chestnut shell on his back thing, though they've merged that idea with a shield/backplate too.Cjdamon042
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Here's the battle music against Team Flare grunts.
Personally I'm liking the music so far, especially the battle themes. Can't wait to hear what the E4 and Champion themes will be like.
SMT is great but very hard for first-time players.
Matt Attack
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That gym battle theme is intense. I quite like it.
peanutbutterlatte
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Sure. Try to draw a Knight. Think of the features that make it stand out as a Knight instead of a Viking or Samurai or Any other kind of armor and check the ones he lacks.
Sword: No.
Shield: No.
Lance: No.
Visor: No.
Helmet: No.
Silver Color: No
Cape: No.
Chest plate: No.
Shoulder pads: No.
Knee caps: No.
Funky Hair on Helmet: No.
Boots: No.
Steel Gloves: No.
Any kind of Body armor whatsoever: No.
Some kind of Knight like stance: No.
Also I would given that Gamefreak might had took some liberties with the Knight design but Escavalier exists, he covers at least 3 basic tropes yet no one would deny he is based on a Knight. If you can provide a convincing counter argument then I'll be happy to change my tune but I honestly don't see it.
but i think he looks like a knight though
Looks more like a turtle than a knight to me.
Winterfang
Banned
I would actually like to try this if you would give me an hour.
Sure. I actually expected his final evo to be atrocious but I end up really liking it, like some kind of mamal bipedal torterra or some random Megaman X mini-boss. Knight however? I just don't see it.
Also I was banned for the entire leak situation but I had read every page of this thread. Too many things to say but my reactions for everything is mostly very positive =D.
It's the stance. Change the stance and I'm pretty sure some of the hate will disappear.
Gonzo The Great
Banned
Wow, the gym battle music is dreadful, and a major step backwards from Black and White. It doesn't even sound like a song, just background noise.
Leaker Josh:
Also, Scyther hasn't been spotted yet (Josh has defeated or is about to defeat the 8th gym leader):
And...
http://archive.foolz.us/vp/search/tripcode/!xltmUpewoI/page/1/
Also, Scyther hasn't been spotted yet (Josh has defeated or is about to defeat the 8th gym leader):
And...
http://archive.foolz.us/vp/search/tripcode/!xltmUpewoI/page/1/
Is Masuda or Ichinose still at the helm of the OST?
Winterfang
Banned
Wow @Megadactly he gets even faster!!!!!!!!!.
Where's my Fairy/Ghost Banette with Prankster? And Cofragigus with Stance Change?
Where's my Fairy/Ghost Banette with Prankster? And Cofragigus with Stance Change?
Winterfang
Banned
Black-Wind
Member
Sure. Try to draw a Knight. Think of the features that make it stand out as a Knight instead of a Viking or Samurai or Any other kind of armor and check the ones he lacks.
Sword: No.
Shield: No.
Lance: No.
Visor: No.
Helmet: No.
Silver Color: No
Cape: No.
Chest plate: No.
Shoulder pads: No.
Knee caps: No.
Funky Hair on Helmet: No.
Boots: No.
Steel Gloves: No.
Any kind of Body armor whatsoever: No.
Some kind of Knight like stance: No.
Also I would given that Gamefreak might had took some liberties with the Knight design but Escavalier exists, he covers at least 3 basic tropes yet no one would deny he is based on a Knight. If you can provide a convincing counter argument then I'll be happy to change my tune but I honestly don't see it.
Agreed.
He looks more like a Golem to me.
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And here
http://fc06.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/051/c/3/earth_golem_by_shinkirouzero-d3cvf6s.jpg
Strangely LOOOONNNNGG limbs, tiny head, spikes, "armor" that doesn't look like armor so much as just mummy wrapping, lack of a weapon or shield ... yeah.
The second I saw him I thought about this guy from Soul Eater (him AND his golems)
Wait...Team Flare is defeated before the 8th gym?
You can take one look at Delphox and say "ok, that's definitely a witch". You can take one look at Greninja and say "ok, that's definitely a ninja". You can't do that with Chesnaught.
Edit: Maybe you can make the case with his shoulder and his shell as a cape, but you cant even see the those from behind. From behind he looks just like a turtle.
Dion Blaster
Member
Other than Charizard X, I'm not really a fan of the Gen 1/2 Megas. Gen 3 on though is ace.
I'm going with Greninja, but Chesnaught DOES look like a knight. Maybe it's because I've played Dark Souls recently, so it's fresh in mind how there are many ways to approach armor, but I think it should be obvious from the presence of a helmet, the straight lines on the trim, and the segmented plating on the arms and legs that he's meant to evoke a knight, covered from head to toe in armor. Heck, he even has the beige color -- a compromise between a knight's silver and the earthy colors of his pre-evos. Of course, they've opted for a more naturalistic bent than the overly-literal attire of Escavalier. Here the armor is more like a built-in exoskeleton, fitting his form like chainmail. It looks great and definitely completes the RPG trio of warrior/mage/thief.
I personally think it's because it's more of a "centralized" design in a sense. Adding additional things, like something to replicate a sword or a shield, would by a bit odd as what would you make it out of? A spike from it's shell? Another shell? The other half of it's shell (I admit that would actually make sense)?
I do admit the spikes on it's hands could be a bit more offensive in their design.
bequietdrive
Member
Have had my review copy for 8 days now, has anyone else had it crash their 3DS? Only when playing this game I've had it shut down my 3DS completely once in standby and twice in gameplay, still had 3/4 battery. Wonder if its just an issue with the downloadable version and will be patched.
He does, where I can't see it.
Also on side note I always thought how cool the animé made Sceptile leaf blade looked, shame that he can no longer use that move.
Winterfang
Banned
Knights don't use Blades though. Does he learn Sacred Sword (might not be the name)?, that fighting move. That along with Spiky Shield might help slightly the Knight motif. That being said a lot of armored warrior used Sword&Shields without necessarily being knights.
Black-Wind
Member
Just by looking at his design I could think of an easy fix ...
Change the shell on his back so that it's detachable on the fly. Have a focal spike sticking out that can be pulled out and used as a sword (like the sword Pokemon's final evol. Def mode would have the shell in it's hands and the spike in the shell. Attack mode would have the spike out).
So what is this missing?
Radiant Ruby AND Shining Sapphire
More than 30 new Mega Evolutions, including:
+ A second Mega Evolution for Blaziken
+ Mega Evolutions for Sceptile and Swampert
+ Mega Evolutions for Salamence and Metagross
+ Mega Evolutions for Groudon (RR) and Kyogre (SS)
+ A Mega Evolution for Rayquaza
...and more Mega Evolutions for Gen III Pokemon, such as Ludicolo, Slaking, Torkoal and Luvdisc!
There are Mega Evolutions for Pokemon from other generations, as well, such as Clawitzer in Gen VI (Water/Fire, with a plasma cannon)!
Explore a full-fledged 3D remake of Hoenn!
See familiar places from a fresh perspective! Visit all-new cities and areas added for the remakes! Experience Hoenn with a day-night cycle, changing weather and seasons! And the native Pokemon population has grown to include species from all six generations!
Full auto-stereoscopic 3D presentation!
Everything from single, double and triple battles to exploration of the overworld is presented in full auto-stereoscopic 3D!
Full trainer customization!
Choose a male or female trainer, and then choose the ethnicity, skin tone, hair style, hair color, eye color, facial features and body type! There is also a wide selection of clothing items and fashion accessories to mix and match, available in different colors and patterns.
Secret bases and running a gym!
Littered around Hoenn are secret bases you can furnish however you please, with furniture and appliances you collect throughout the game! Secret bases feature special mini-games. They also include healing stations and PC access.
You can also own and operate your own gym! Locations are available in a variety of places. The interior and exterior is fully customizable. Challenges can be accepted from CPU trainers (offline) and human players (online).
Special encounters with rare Pokemon!
Similar to the black Haxorus in B2/W2, or the red Gyarados in HG/SS, there are special Pokemon encounters in RR/SS, including shiny versions of Salamence and Metagross! There are also non-native legendary Pokemon such as Regigigas, who can now Mega Evolve!
Rematches and Battle Frontier!
Every gym leader can be challenged to a rematch, the gym leader selecting a team that roughly approximates your current level! For example, Norman may Mega Evolve his Slaking, dropping Truant and gaining a beneficial ability.
The same applies to the Elite Four and Champion. There is also the Battle Frontier, robust as always, and a venue within it where players can challenge gym leaders, E4 members and champions from all six generations.
(NOTE: Listed Mega Evolutions assume they don't already exist in XY)
Radiant Ruby AND Shining Sapphire
More than 30 new Mega Evolutions, including:
+ A second Mega Evolution for Blaziken
+ Mega Evolutions for Sceptile and Swampert
+ Mega Evolutions for Salamence and Metagross
+ Mega Evolutions for Groudon (RR) and Kyogre (SS)
+ A Mega Evolution for Rayquaza
...and more Mega Evolutions for Gen III Pokemon, such as Ludicolo, Slaking, Torkoal and Luvdisc!
There are Mega Evolutions for Pokemon from other generations, as well, such as Clawitzer in Gen VI (Water/Fire, with a plasma cannon)!
Explore a full-fledged 3D remake of Hoenn!
See familiar places from a fresh perspective! Visit all-new cities and areas added for the remakes! Experience Hoenn with a day-night cycle, changing weather and seasons! And the native Pokemon population has grown to include species from all six generations!
Full auto-stereoscopic 3D presentation!
Everything from single, double and triple battles to exploration of the overworld is presented in full auto-stereoscopic 3D!
Full trainer customization!
Choose a male or female trainer, and then choose the ethnicity, skin tone, hair style, hair color, eye color, facial features and body type! There is also a wide selection of clothing items and fashion accessories to mix and match, available in different colors and patterns.
Secret bases and running a gym!
Littered around Hoenn are secret bases you can furnish however you please, with furniture and appliances you collect throughout the game! Secret bases feature special mini-games. They also include healing stations and PC access.
You can also own and operate your own gym! Locations are available in a variety of places. The interior and exterior is fully customizable. Challenges can be accepted from CPU trainers (offline) and human players (online).
Special encounters with rare Pokemon!
Similar to the black Haxorus in B2/W2, or the red Gyarados in HG/SS, there are special Pokemon encounters in RR/SS, including shiny versions of Salamence and Metagross! There are also non-native legendary Pokemon such as Regigigas, who can now Mega Evolve!
Rematches and Battle Frontier!
Every gym leader can be challenged to a rematch, the gym leader selecting a team that roughly approximates your current level! For example, Norman may Mega Evolve his Slaking, dropping Truant and gaining a beneficial ability.
The same applies to the Elite Four and Champion. There is also the Battle Frontier, robust as always, and a venue within it where players can challenge gym leaders, E4 members and champions from all six generations.
(NOTE: Listed Mega Evolutions assume they don't already exist in XY)
peanutbutterlatte
Member
Worth nothing this is all fiction.
User 73706
Banned
So you're saying everyone wouldn't mind the trumpets if they sounded as real and bombastic as this?
I'm okay with that. Ricelia did a bunch of remixes using EastWest plug-ins and XY also relied considerably on them (which they have since DPPt, the key difference being that they don't suffer from compression as heavily as the DS's hardware limitations did) so it looks like we'll be getting this track in slightly-compressed form for the RS remakes anyway.
Eh? Well of course, it's a wishlist -- the question is what else should it include!
I'd also like to note, given the natural beauty of Hoenn, it lends itself well to a remake -- particularly as a remake would allow them to, say, greatly reduce the length of water routes and add new areas altogether.
A 3D world also lends itself well to the secret base concept since there are more directions to approach bases from and the world has a stronger, more immersive sense of place. Give the bases utility with beneficial mini-games and it's a fun way to introduce an addictive Animal Crossing-like layer of customization.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
Well he does have a move called spike shield.
It's a hybrid cape/shield/armour though.
In this pic, from behind, he just ends up looking like a turtle standing on two legs with a spiky shell.
Chesnaught is meant to evoke a knight. Not flat-out emulate one. And he does evoke a knight, covered head-to-toe in his own naturalistic, exoskeletal take on body armor. This should be evident from the helmet on his head to the plating on his arms and legs to the beige color that compromises earthy hues and a knight's shining armor. He's fortified, front and back, top to bottom. He even has the ornamental trim of a knight along the edges of his shell-shield.
Any more blatant and it veers off into parody territory, which worked for Escavalier as a regular mid-game Pokemon but would be a bit too on the nose for a starter.
Any more blatant and it veers off into parody territory, which worked for Escavalier as a regular mid-game Pokemon but would be a bit too on the nose for a starter.
Well, if they're still bothered by it then there's no helping them.
Antiwhippy
the holder of the trombone
I would like Chesnaught more if it had some sort of facemask akin to armor, I think. Also shorter limbs/smaller shell because I think it looks awkward as is.
I also think Delphox would look a lot better with a wand. Because what the hell happened to the stick growing out of its ass.
I also think Delphox would look a lot better with a wand. Because what the hell happened to the stick growing out of its ass.
no matter how often you repeat yourself I still don't see it.
Pokémon cries in the overworld, I loved that feature and don't know why they took it out.
PaulExcellent
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Dr. Randy Marsh
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So it just occurred to me that, for the first time, they can add brand new Pokemon to later games within the same gen (such as Z or Ruby2/Sapphire2), and then patch XY to be compatible with these new Pokemon. So like 10~15 cross-gen evos (or, more likely, megas) added to Hoenn sequels/remakes and then 10~15 new mons added to Z/X2Y2. Totally seems like something they might do.
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