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US Federal Government Shutdown | Shutdown Shutdown, Debt Ceiling Raised
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davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Relax its only pictures of house majority leader boner
AnathemicOne
Banned
Something my friend on facebook posted. Enjoy the brain hurt.
"Obamacare is the law of the land b-but division of powers makes it so we d-don't have to follow it!"
I don't even... it was fucking passed within Congress's jurisdiction the first time around for crying out loud, then went through the fucking Supreme Court.
Yep, it passed through literally all three branches of government. The argument is moronic.
But.. thats why we have a division of power in America, so people don't have to listen to the ... wait. the fuck did i just read..
Takamura-San
Member
So... Is it over?
They still have to vote.
not yet
Sowell gets a column in my local paper every week or so. I honestly don't think I've ever seen a single valid argument out of him, yet they keep printing his tripe.
Grover Cleveland
Member
You can always count on some drama on the floor.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Not yet. The vote needs to take place. No matter what, tomorrow will bring results. It's just up to the House now to see if those results will be good or bad.
Xdrive05
Member
Something my friend on facebook posted. Enjoy the brain hurt.
This showed up on my in-law's feed as "This black economist says Obama shut down the government!"
As if his being black means his criticism is right.
"I'm not racist, I have a black friend. He's one of the good ones."
Starsunder
Member
I just followed you. Had to after that tweet lmao.
jamesinclair
Banned
Just wait until someone tries to be Mr Wendy Davis
so the republicans are rewarded again? i am surprised there is any kind of celebration or relief from anyone not a republican as a result of this. they may not have dismantled the aca but yet again they were rewarded for terrorizing this country. are the democrats getting anything near what the republicans are getting for literally not destroying the world economy?
what is going to stop them from doing this again and again at this rate?
what is going to stop them from doing this again and again at this rate?
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
Filibuster for another week sounds good
Vestal
Junior Member
Fuck me. Get this over with. I don't want another 24hrs of flirting with a global meltdown cause the House GOP doesn't know where to hide or how to spin this mess as some sort of victory.
What did they get? They didn't win meaningful policy concessions and they've lost a lot of ground in polling. They're sad about this for a reason.
They "win" in a sense that they get what they would have had anyway.
They lose in the fact that the country is now far more wary of them. Let them try it again next year around Primaries. See what happens.
Just give it time. Give a year, public will forget... repubs will spin this debacle totally differently than it happened.
I've said before, let them try this again next year. They'll be voted right out of their seats.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
Tried that last year, the exact opposite worked.
Also, hope you're all ready to possibly go through this again in 2 months!
There have been enough votes in the House to pass anything from the Senate since day 1.
Takamura-San
Member
I hope they are joking, they want economy calamity over Christmas ? Are they really that dense?
Every house democrat will probably vote for it so they simply need 17 republicans.
Mgoblue201
Won't stop picking the right nation
The public's opinion of the GOP has been falling for the last several years; the cumulative effect will probably sour public opinion toward them beyond the mere ramifications of one public spat over the debt ceiling. Plus, the GOP will be in disarray for some time after this. At the very least, the party has destroyed any hopes it had of retaining some national relevance, and it will probably lose seats in Congress for the next two election cycles. And that's without even factoring in the effects of future brinkmanship over the debt ceiling.
Grover Cleveland
Member
That proposal has been scuttled. House leadership didn't think they had the votes to bring it to the floor
The fact that they carried on as long as they have says yes, they are that dense. It's not like they wouldn't be happy if the gov crashed and burned anyway. Whatever happens after will just be blamed on Obama. They were literally protesting against the shit they just got through doing.
Sweeney Tom
Banned
So instead of having 2 months until this shit happens again, we'd have 4 instead.
I am really starting to find it hard to support either side of this clusterfuck at this point.
Better it be in January than during the holidays, and they have until the 13th of December to come up with a longer lasting deal.
Latest word is that Boehner may hold the vote first on the Senate bill and then send it to the Senate so that there's no way Cruz can possible delay it in the Senate (due to procedural rules).
Not really, its 100% the republicans that are behind this. They lost the election, they lost in congress, and they lost at the Supreme Court. ACA is law, and its what democracy is. Republicans have decided to ignore voting, congress, and the supreme court, to put people out of work, and risk our nations credit rating. -- For a program they basically created originally be it the building blocks, or the frankensteining of its progress.
How on earth can you find blame on the side that is standing behind the notion that you can't override democracy by holding the country at risk? What could they have done differently? Ignore democracy because the Tea-Party has said so?
bodyofanamerican
Member
You guys really think the GOP will try this again in 4 months?
TacticalFox88
Banned
Why is Cruz being such an asshole?
They don't learn. They don't want to learn.
empty vessel
Member
This is more dangerous than anything Republicans have unilaterally threatened to do.
Grover Cleveland
Member
They'll learn when their poll numbers are in the dirt and their various Wall Street backers start pulling money from incumbent campaigns and grooming new candidates to take their jobs.
SlipperySlope
Banned
Do you think those new candidates would be more moderate or more conservative?
Sweeney Tom
Banned
The debt ceiling thing has already been pushed off at least twice, and the shutdown and sequester a combined 4 times last I checked unless I missed some stuff. Temporary solutions are basically the only solutions anybody can agree to any more, so it being pushed off yet again is the one result of this that wouldn't shock me unfortunately.
We're talking about the group of people that literally made up poll numbers for the 2012 Presidential Election to make it look like Romney would get something like 300 EVs.
They don't care about some "liberal skewed poll".
The "debt ceiling thing" has been pushed off more than a hundred times since it was created. Barring eliminating it altogether, which probably ought to happen, the solution to the debt ceiling is always temporary.
A CR is a temporary solution to a budget standoff. We're not going to get resolution on that in a short amount of time, so a CR is a good idea. The budget can be taken to conference, and hopefully we can get the sequester removed.
Neuromancer
Member
Sure would be nice to get paid sometime. I haven't had a paycheck in 3 weeks.
Plinko
Wildcard berths that can't beat teams without a winning record should have homefield advantage
Switch the word "is" to the spot before "an" and you just answered your own question.
He can't help himself. He is the classic asshole.
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