3 men push over 200 million year old rock formation in Goblin Valley.....(video)

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Before watching the video and seeing both the mens age (30-somethings?) and the rock they toppled I thought they may have had a least a smidgen of ignorant reasoning behind this.

Post-video watching they are idiots. Seriously, they thought the rock was going to topple? I thought it was going to be on some high ledge overhanging some valley.
 
Dead Man said:
While still absolutely shiteful, it feels a bit less bad to me. It is much more recent, and is man made. Absolutely a vital part of history, but destroying something that took 200 million years and natural forces alone to make seems more destructive to me. Eh, both are the work of fuckheads.
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Dude... one is a goddamn rock, not even a necessarily large rock formation, the other is actual human culture that does something for us.
 
The trio of men was adventuring in Goblin Valley State Park when they decided to film themselves knocking over one of the formations, known as "goblins." They said later it appeared to them that it was ready to fall and might hurt someone.
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Assholes and smh at the grammar in the first part of the sentence.
 
Antti said:
It wasn't supposed to be a rebuttal, it was a joke.

I get what's wrong with it, but the extent of the outrage seems weird to me. They're just rocks.
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Some rocks are holy to people, and most don't have a dome protecting them:
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Yoshichan said:
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Builders in Peru (I think?) couldn't be bothered to travel an extra kilometer, or some shit, to the site where they were supposed to collect stone for something they were building, so they just said fuck it and tore down an ancient mayan temple or similar. It was probably the most infuriating news of last year or if it was earlier this year.

Wait, what paradise_circus just posted happened in the same year, didn't it? God damn it.
 
Just rocks - looking at the video the anger comes from seeing idiots with no comprehension of or appreciation for where they were at.

It's representative of an unthinking, unreflective, shallow culture that produces such people. And the implications for the world.
 
gloomy said:
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Adding to the horrible vandals collection.
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That first picture is not what that pyramid looked like before. It was most likely unexcavated, looking like a grass and tree covered mound of dirt. Not that it isn't a huge loss when any ancient artifact is destroyed, but let's not act like someone bulldozed Chichen Itza

aku:jiki said:
Builders in Peru (I think?) couldn't be bothered to travel an extra kilometer, or some shit, to the site where they were supposed to collect stone for something they were building, so they just said fuck it and tore down an ancient mayan temple or similar. It was probably the most infuriating news of last year or if it was earlier this year.

Wait, what paradise_circus just posted happened in the same year, didn't it? God damn it.
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industrian said:
The US Army also built an army base on Babylonian ruins.

http://articles.washingtonpost.com/..._ishtar-gate-babylon-museum-babylon-s-ancient

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/4177577.stm
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Well, it was in ruins.
U.S. forces did not exactly destroy the 4,000-year-old city, home of one of the world's original seven wonders, the Hanging Gardens of Babylon. Even before the troops arrived, there was not much left: a mound of broken mud-brick buildings and archaeological fragments in a fertile plain between the Tigris and the Euphrates rivers.

But they did turn it into Camp Alpha, a military base, shortly after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Their 18-month stay there caused "major damage" and represented a "grave encroachment on this internationally known archeological site," a report released this month in Paris by the United Nations' cultural agency, UNESCO, says.
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The greater crime was not protecting the antiquities that UNESCO said would be looted in an invasion, but this is icing on the fuck-you World Heritage cake.
Looting has been a part of war at least since 333 B.C., when Alexander the Great strolled into the tent of King Darius III, helped himself to the vanquished Persian's best tapestries and commandeered the royal bathtub for a soothing victory soak. In the years since, victors have taken the spoils, and in their wake, ordinary citizens and opportunistic thieves have grabbed anything of value in that confused pause between war and peace.

All the looting at Baghdad's Iraq Museum had taken place by the time U.S. troops—engaged in toppling Saddam Hussein—arrived to protect it, on April 16, 2003. Between April 8, when the museum was vacated, and April 12, when the first of the staff returned, clubs in hand, thieves had plundered an estimated 15,000 items, many of them choice antiquities: ritual vessels, heads from sculptures, amulets, Assyrian ivories and more than 5,000 cylinder seals.

The looting proved less extensive than the early reports of 170,000 stolen artifacts, but the losses were nonetheless staggering. "Every single item that was lost is a great loss for humanity," says Donny George Youkhanna, the former director general of Iraqi museums, now a visiting professor at the State University of New York at Stony Brook. "It is the only museum in the world where you can trace the earliest development of human culture—technology, agriculture, art, language and writing—in just one place."
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Militaries have been responsible for the destruction of cultural heritage since conquest became a thing.
World Heritage Sites connected to 'Destroyed during invasion':

Al Qal'a of Beni Hammad destroyed by the Almohads in 1152.
Al Zubarah The attack on Zubarah in 1811 was followed by a short period of abandonment.
Ancient Merv Destroyed by the Mongols in 1221
Angkor Thai Invasion in 1431
Anuradhapura Chola invasion in 1017
Ashur Destroyed by the Medes in 614 BC
Ayutthaya By Burmese Army in 1767
Berat and Gjirokastra Berat: sacked and burned by the Romans
Berlin Modernism Housing Estates Russian attack on Berlin in 1945
Biblical Tells Megiddo, Hatzor
Changdeokgung Palace Complex Korea's Changdeokgung and Jongmyo Shrine by Japanese Invasion in 1592
Colonia del Sacramento By Spain in 1704/5
Costiera Amalfitana Scala was destroyed by the Pisans in the 12th Century.
Curonian Spit Kaup was destroyed by the Crusades
El Fuerte de Samaipata Wiki: "Guarani warriors conquered the plains and valleys of Santa Cruz and destroyed Samaipata."
Ferrara Comacchio was destroyed by the Venetians in 854
Grand Place, Brussels "On August 13, 1695, a 70,000-strong French army under Marshal Fran?ois de Neufville, Duke of Villeroy began a bombardment of Brussels in an effort to draw the League of Augsburg's forces away from their siege on French-held Namur in what is now southern Belgium. The French launched a massive bombardment of the mostly defenseless city centre with cannons and mortars, setting it on fire and flattening the majority of the Grand Place and the surrounding city. Only the stone shell of the town hall and a few fragments of other buildings remained standing. That the town hall survived at all is ironic, as it was the principal target of the artillery fire."
Great Smoky Mountains Oconaluftee, the Cherokee capital within the park area was probably destroyed in 1776 by the army of General Griffith Rutherford during the American Revolution.
Gyeongju "Hwangnyongsa - This group consists of two ruined temples, Hwangnyongsa and Punhwangsa. Hwangnyongsa, built to the order of King Chinhung (540-76) was the largest temple ever built in Korea, covering some 72,500m2. An 80m high nine-storey pagoda was added in 645. The entire complex was destroyed by Mongol invaders in 1238." - AB Document
Hatra Destroyed by the Sassanids in 241
Hu� By American bombing during the Battle of Hue in 1968
Hwaseong Fortress North Korean invasion of South Korea in 1950. "Considerable damage was caused to some parts of the Fortress during the Korean War. The Changanmun and Ch'angyongmun Gates were completely destroyed, and sections of the walls were demolished." - AB Document
Ibiza By Vandals, 5th century
Jongmyo Shrine By Japanese Invasion in 1592
Kaesong "Koryo Songgyungwan was burnt down by Japanese invaders in 1592; rebuilt over nine years from 1602." - nomination file
Kernav� Archeological Site Destroyed by the Teutonic Order in the late 14th century
Khami Ruins 1683
Koguryo Kingdom "Koguryo directly bordered the Kingdom of Wei, with which it often conflicted. General Wu Qi~ujian of Wei attacked Koguryo. The construction of palaces of Wandu Mountain City was damaged. King Dongchuanwang moved the capital to Guonei City (209AD) and started the first round of construction of the city." - Nomination File
Kunya-Urgench Genghis Khan 1221
Luang Prabang Black Haw Invasion in 1887 destroyed most of temples and palaces
Minaret of Jam The city of Firuzkuh where it was located was apparently destroyed by the Mongols
Museumsinsel (Museum Island) Russian attack on Berlin in 1945
My Son By American Bombing During Vietnam War in 1969
Old City of Jerusalem By the Roman Army (70 A.D.)
Palenque towards the end of the 12th Century by coastal peoples
Persepolis Alexander the Great 330BC
Polonnaruva Kalinga invasion in 1214
Quebrada de Humahuaca The Pucara at Tilcara was destroyed by the Spaniards and its inhabitants exiled.
Rila Monastery Destroyed by the Ottomans in the middle of the 15th Century
Royal Palaces of Abomey Abomey - destroyed during the French invasion in 1892
R�ros R?ros was burned to the ground in 1678 and 1679 by the Swedish Army during the Scanian War.
Santa Ana de los Rios de Cuenca In late 1531 or early 1532, Atahualpa and his generals forced the city Tumebamba to surrender and had it destroyed. Tumebamba is the Inca city that was on the present site of Cuenca, Ecuador
Seokguram Grotto and Bulguksa Temple "During the Imjin wars, the wooden buildings were burned to the ground. After 1604, reconstruction and expansion of Bulguksa started." -wiki
Shakhrisyabz Destroyed by the Emir of Bukhara in the 16th century
Site of Carthage Third Punic War in 146 BC
Speyer Cathedral Speyer Cathedral during the Nine Years' War (Palatinate War of Succession 1688?97) by French troops
Summer Palace Lord Elgin 1860
Troy Trojan War
Turaif Quarter From Wiki "....led to the Ottoman-Saudi War of 1811?1818 and an invasion of Arabia by Ottoman and Egyptian forces brought the Saudi state to an end in 1818, with Diriyah capitulating after a nearly-year-long siege. The leader of the invading force, Ibrahim Pasha, ordered the destruction of Diriyah. However, when a member of the local nobility tried to revive the Wahhabi state in Diriyah, Ibrahim ordered his troops to destroy the town even further and set whatever was left of it on fire. When the Saudis revived their fortunes in 1824 and again in 1902, they made their capital further south in Riyadh, which remained their capital ever since.
White Monuments of Vladimir and Suzdal Bogolyubovo by Mongols during the 1230's
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peaceiscloser said:
Dude... one is a goddamn rock, not even a necessarily large rock formation, the other is actual human culture that does something for us.
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One is something that took 200 million years to get to where it is, the other is a manmade monument that is still there and is only a few thousand years old at best.

Think about the time difference. Of course there is more 'culture' behind one, but the other has literally seen the fall of Dinosaurs, the rise of primates, mammals and humans. Seen the ice age even.

Of course it's only 'one rock' but it was one rock that took 200 million years to look like that.

Let's just agree, both incidents were caused by fucking morons who should be banned from any monument or heritage site from now on.
 
Saw this on the news this morning. What is the point of that? They even talked to one of the guys and he said something along the lines of if this gets him kicked out as a Boy Scout leader, he'll feel horrible for the rest of his life. So why do it in the first place? Idiots.
 
I strongly suspect their explanation is post-hoc rationalization. They wanted to knock something over because it's fun, got in trouble for it, and then came up with an extremely flimsy excuse to justify their behavior.
 
Hey fuckheads, thanks for acting exactly in opposition to what we try to teach kids in Boy Scouts. Good fucking job, morons.
 
Partial Gamification said:
Well, it was in ruins.

The greater crime was not protecting the antiquities that UNESCO said would be looted in an invasion, but this is icing on the fuck-you World Heritage cake.


Militaries have been responsible for the destruction of cultural heritage since conquest became a thing.
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Do you remember the Buddha's of Bamiyan? They were these huge statues carved into the mountains of Afghanistan when it was part of Ancient India in the 6th century and even predated Islam as a religion.

The taliban destroyed them with explosives. Humans have been destroying and defacing things for a long time under the guise of war, religion, whatever. So sad at the human culture that has been lost over the millenia.
 
Madness said:
Do you remember the Buddha's of Bamiyan? They were these huge statues carved into the mountains of Afghanistan when it was part of Ancient India in the 6th century and even predated Islam as a religion.

The taliban destroyed them with explosives. Humans have been destroying and defacing things for a long time under the guise of war, religion, whatever. So sad at the human culture that has been lost over the millenia.
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Yeah, that's posted here. Add the looting of the Library at Timbuktu.
 
I don't even know what would prompt doing something like this, and I don't trust the explanation given...

Could people just stop and think for a bit - even just a minute or two - before screwing with things (manmade or otherwise) important enough to others that millions travel to see them each year? I mean, that's even a crude, ill-proportioned standard, but it seems so fundamentally base that anyone should be able to find their way to it.
 
Yeah, they're idiots. But also, it's a rock.

I respect the fact that we should preserve the natural environment as well as we can, especially considering how ignorant and destructive a species we are, but GAIA don't give a fuck.
 
Opiate said:
I strongly suspect their explanation is post-hoc rationalization. They wanted to knock something over because it's fun, got in trouble for it, and then came up with an extremely flimsy excuse to justify their behavior.
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Certainly the attitude displayed in the video lents itself to a different interpretation of the facts as they related them.
 
Fuck those cunts, I've been there and most if the national parks in that area, and fuckers like these can ruin so much beauty. This pisses me off.
 
I understand with some people in this thread about their stance on formation being mineral or rocks but it don't really excuse your ignorance for histories and nature arts. It's really sad we have to see some people don't give single damn about our world's histories and destroyed whatever we had. It happened because we have too many uneducated and entitled people in the world.

Opiate said:
I strongly suspect their explanation is post-hoc rationalization. They wanted to knock something over because it's fun, got in trouble for it, and then came up with an extremely flimsy excuse to justify their behavior.
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I agreed with your statement. They look like they having a fun to knock a rock off the formation instead of being concerned and carefully pushing it down.
 
GMN said:
well, they did it out of concern for safety so i can't really be TOO mad about this. doesn't make it any less INCREDIBLY stupid, but they didn't go there to knock stuff over for kicks or anything.
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I doubt they did it ONLY for that reason (I'm sure it was just to see if he could) but yea that shit looked incredibly loose and it didn't take much effort to move. I think it was all the celebration that made it seem rather douchey.

And at the end of the day they are just rocks. The average person knowingly participates in activities on an hourly basis that help screw up this environment and we're getting up in arms over this? Lol, give me a fucking break.
 
I don't get why everyones so outraged. As if what they did was destroy a monument centuries old. It's a rock and it's not really unique.
 
eravulgaris said:
What a fucking idiot. People like this shouldn't even be alive. They contribute absolutely nothing to society.

This has ruined my day.
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To nature, that rock formation was just as "valuable" as a patch of flat dirt in Kansas.

It's just stuff that happens because of the natural processes of erosion. We interact and interfere with natural processes all the time.

I can see getting upset (although I don't see wishing they were dead) if they had destroyed some scientific discovery and set progress back, but that's not the case here.
 
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