shinobi602
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The game uses an upgraded rendition of the engine during cutscenes. See: Uncharted games, Halo 4.
New Ryse: Son of Rome story trailer [new footage]
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NoirVisage
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if your mind can't make the connection between being beaten (someone posted the same thing before you) and masochist (laymans terms, someone who would enjoy getting beaten)
..then you have the wit and sense of humor of cactus, good day to you then sir.
Nothing it's just that almost the entire trailer was made using cutscenes, thus the statement that it contains gameplay footage is a bit of an overshoot for me.
However the game looks solid, I just don't...
I don't know the ingame animations murder this game for me.
(more like a slaughter)
In-engine, I know it's a hard concept for you to understand but maybe one day you will.... one day.
Wishmaster92
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Can you analyze these? Practically almost artifact free:
Straight from the video:
Shaunboy97
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I'd imagine it'll look similar to Xbox One
Dictator93
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This has yet to be said to be honest. And given cryteks history.. I would not be too sure of this given the fact that you can still see aliasing in close up "cienmatic" shots (speicifically crawl and shader aliasing).
Samir Sedlar
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Ryse is looking pretty amazing, the main character looks awesome, I am so interested in the title, and since it is a launch title, I am now more likely to get an Xbone than a PS4.
I get that, but there's a difference (so far as I know) between Uncharted and Halo 4 in that UC's cutscenes are prerendered using the engine whereas Halo 4's are actually rendered in real-time.
I'm no pixel-counter.
MysticGoujon
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It isn't logic, that's the point, it's not as simple of comparing statistic A, to statistic B, they're both very different systems, maybe there is something unique about the X1, or specific processes which works for Ryse, we don't know, we didn't develop the game. All I'm saying is that until we have some actual proof, in the form of a better looking Crytek game, you can't really going around saying things like that based upon numbers none of us really understand.
They said "100% In-engine, In-game"
My problem is mainly with 100%, but I see now that it was knit-picking by me.
I'm trying to like this game, though.
That's what's so crazy. We're blown away in the first year release, but early 360/PS3 games don't hold a candle to the new releases. Look at UC1 to UC2, Halo 3 to Halo 4, the GoW games, Oblivion to Skyrim.
Feels like we're finally beginning to see games hit that level where believability in the worlds and characters can be realized.
Muppet of a Man
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It will likely never look like shit comparatively. More likely, its scope will look small/narrow/hyper linear and gameplay elements janky and limited.
See Heavenly Sword at PS3 launch to get an idea of what I'm talking about.
Ingame, means that those are gameplay assets and its real-time.
NoirVisage
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numbers you don't understand you mean, I think you're just extra sensitive to the PS4 being brought up in a thread that has nothing to do with it, I can agree that is annoying and would hope we see less of it.
Whatever..
shinobi602
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You're not as witty as you think. It's a stretch to make that connection, with masochist literally meaning someone who enjoys pain, mostly sexual, humiliation or degradation. Enjoying being "beaten" is a stretch of the word, and a small aspect of it. Come on.
Power difference on paper means nothing if it doesn't translate into games.
So basically you're in denial?
shinobi602
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Pretty sure when he says "in-engine" he's referring to the cutscenes, while "in-game" is referring the obvious bits of actual gameplay thrown into the trailer.
MysticGoujon
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I'm not trying to be offensive here, unless you've been a game engineer for the last 5 years, you also have no idea how they truly effect performance. Software development is unfortunately not as simple as maximising a set of statistics, there is much more to it than that.
When he says in-game he is saying this is literally the game and not some kind of tech demo using the engine.
Crytek has made it very clear they don't want their to be a difference between cutscenes and gameplays. They already confirmed that cutscenes use the same IQ and models as the game.
They want a movie like experience and part of that is making sure it looks the same throughout.
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
Maybe shit was too strong. I'm thinkin this is more Kameo, gives an idea of the power of the system at launch, but in time wont look as good.
NoirVisage
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The wit and sense of humor of a cactus, took you 3 replies to even get it, we're on two different levels, i say again, good day to you sir.
Muppet of a Man
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But it does translate into games; third party multiplatform developers (many, in fact) have said so.
This does not, however, take away from the graphical merits of Ryse; they are quite astonishing. I didn't think we'd be seeing such impressive stuff right out of the gate.
Nope, I've already admitted that it was a misread/misinterpret by me, and I apologize for derailing the thread towards a pretty nonsense direction.
StudioTan
Hold on, friend! I'd love to share with you some swell news about the Windows 8 Metro UI! Wait, where are you going?
Fucking hell it looks good. I watched the youtube version 4 or 5 times but the clarity in the video brings it to a whole other level.
Salvor.Hardin
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Gotta love all the posters refusing to believe how good this game looks and doubting Crytek.
It's almost as if they spent so much time discussing that 50% hardware gap that they're now hardwired to think XB1 games were going to look like trash.
It's almost as if they spent so much time discussing that 50% hardware gap that they're now hardwired to think XB1 games were going to look like trash.
shinobi602
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Adios.
CassidyIzABeast
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There's plenty of gameplay without the tearing. That section in particular is super bugged out. You can tell by the way the camera is glitches back and worth.
This shot is gameplay with the camera detached. That's Marius on the ballista. They're on the same platform from that cutscene. Doesn't look at that different to me.
NoirVisage
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Because MS told you so. I'm not a lawyer, are you a lawyer?
Of course, when You will be running around, it wont look like that, because there wont be good camera position, DoF everywhere and Your character will be far away, but if You lock camera around some tree or rock and check how for example Marius looks, You'll get same fidelity as in the trailer.
MysticGoujon
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A lawyer? What on earth are you talking about?
NoirVisage
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and THAT is what remains to be seen. Just tempering my expectations.
shinobi602
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I think it still looks fantastic during gameplay segments really.
Not something I'm going to argue about but pretty much every refrence I've heard comparing platforms has been XboxOne/PS4 vs last gen and vs PC.
As of now we haven't seen any major differences on 3rd parties yet either.
So instead of waiting to see you're just going to continue to complain about how you don't think it's true?
You do know this game will look like a 360 launch game, right? The rest is CG.
I definitely agree that the game visually looks stunning, on both cut-scenes and gameplay segments, but the cutscenes do look significantly better.
Anyway like you said, the game looks fantastic overall.
NoirVisage
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Major Nelson quote, he also said we're not engineers, and reversing DRM wasn't possible..and it was.
Never Forget.
He didn't say it wasn't impossible he said it wasn't easy. Making the decision to reverse the DRM was a lot easier than to actually reverse all the coding and infrastructure they had setup for it.
Miles Quaritch
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So I just watched the direct feed footage on my PS3 (damn thing wouldn't work on my 360) and it looks incredible. The gifs, the pictires, the YT and GS videos, they absolutely do not do it justice.
It looks insane. The level of detail is just off the charts. The animation especially is mind blowing....
It looks insane. The level of detail is just off the charts. The animation especially is mind blowing....
MysticGoujon
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I'm struggling to find how this is relevant? You seem to be good at going off topic.
NoirVisage
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you know message boards aren't all rainbows and unicorns right? people aren't going to 100% gush and have orgasms about visuals in every post..some people will have a dissenting opinion.. don't act like this concept is new to you.
Muppet of a Man
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This is what I was talking about with Heavenly Sword:
Hard to believe this was a PS3 launch title.
MysticGoujon
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Hey, the Xbox One isn't backwards compatible, so obviously the Xbox 360 isn't forwards compatible
Dude you're basically sitting here complaining about something you fabricated yourself.
NoirVisage
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you don't have to be an engineer to have common sense, you use the strengths of whatever console you're working with to bring out the best, if there's a 40 % difference..that's a lot of strength to work with no matter what secret engineer only sauce you feel exists because you can't understand the numbers..you think inside the box (in this case the Xbox) way to much to be fun to have a disagreement with, i'm done with you, sorry I replied to your oversensitive post, I actually meant well.