Girl throws a 21st birthday party with an African theme to it. The KKK showed(G/A/F)
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Yep. Supposedly founded in the late nineties. But if it's anything like the KKK in Germany, it's probably just a dozen nazis who like the name and pointy hats.
crimzonflame
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Is Robert Downey Jr racist because he painted himself 'black' for Tropic Thunder?
Have you seen this movie?
This thread and that stupid jezebel piece is basically people who aren't Australian putting their own racial ideas on these kids for dressing up in 'african theme' for a party - no malice would have been intended (not even from the muppet dressed in kkk) so I fail to see the big deal.
The black face paint is a horrid racist thing to do in your country? Great well it ain't in Australia so keep your condemnation to yourselves.
Do people seriously have nothing better to do?
The black face paint is a horrid racist thing to do in your country? Great well it ain't in Australia so keep your condemnation to yourselves.
Do people seriously have nothing better to do?
Yes. It is just an easy example to show there are reasons other than being racist to paint your face black. The person I was referring to was saying painting your face black meant you were a racist.
Does anyone else find the funny names joke in that episode kinda offensive to indigenous people? I've always found it a bit... Off.
Edit: this one
Marge: We have those in America. They're called bull frogs.
Australian Squeaky-Voiced Teen: That's weird! I'd have called them chuzzwazzers!
People defending blackface in this thread are so fucking stupid It's difficult to believe. There is no celebration of African culture. I wouldn't even call it a theme party.(WTF does the KKK have to do with Africa? This is simply a mockery of Africans. White people dressing up as Africans so they can get drunk at laugh at how ridiculous they look. Racist.
Hey at least we don't have entire groups of politicians wanting to round up gays and trans into concentration camps, fill jails with blacks, and force minorities out of voting. I'll take the one racist birthday party instead of the political party.
Give Abbott time and we'll be there.
Hitler/Australia jokes never made me laugh, but that one was so unexpected I cracked a grin.
Broder Salsa
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Hitler wasn't born there for no reason.
Sho_Nuff82
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Yeah, no one in Australia has ever been accused of being racist towards Aborigines.
? How is that relating to global knowledge of blackface?
iamaustrian
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May I ask what's so racist in the photos except for the horrible kkk costume?
I ask because I see similar "african" disguises(painted skin, etc) all the time at parties here and noone found them racist yet.
Blackface is an American concept. Racism is a worldwide thing. Our countries are perfectly capable of being racist in our own ways.
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Sho_Nuff82
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If it arises spontaneously in a different culture for the same reason (ie, making fun of black people), how is it not racist? Just because they aren't intentionally imitating American racism doesn't make it suddenly funny.
Blackface is super dumb but the Americans in this thread expecting idiot 21 year old Australians to know the intricacies of their racial history is pretty stupid, not to mention arrogant. They probably don't even remember that Hey Hey It's Saturday shit from a few years ago.
No excuse for the KKK guy though.
No excuse for the KKK guy though.
If you put black paint on your skin to emulate the skin color of others for a laugh what exactly are you laughing at?
If it arises for the same reasons? So now you know why the kids at the party used face and body paint? And you know it was to mock people? Gonna need some evidence on that one.
Indeed. How does that lead to blackface being known worldwide? He made a ridiculous leap from "Blackface is a US/UK thing' to then act as if the poster had said there was no racism in Australia. It was a terrible post.
Okay, so it isn't funny. That doesn't make it blackface and that doesn't make us defenders of blackface.
When you dress up for carnival/halloween/cosplay/... you want people to laugh at you?
Must be nice to be willfully ignorant. If there was any benevolence in this that KKK guy definitely would not be embraced by the party goers. The intent is clear.
Blackface is Blackface. Blackface is racist. No matter who does it no matter where it's done. That's all I want people to understand.
Sho_Nuff82
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Please, offer a plausible explanation. Especially how people ignorant of the history of American racism have a KKK costume on display.
Wow. You realise some parts of US culture are more well known than others, yes? And you realise that even the parts that are known don't have the same cultural impact that the do in the US, yes? Figure it out, it's not hard.
Or, you could simply read the thread and see that this has already been gone over before.
Sorry, you are wrong.
Because they know one bit of American history (that is shamelessly mocked in pop culture, most recently Django) means they know all of it? I wonder if the average 21 year old American would know the history of the Aboriginal people and what is offensive to them?
cobragt4001
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LMAO, I really don't find that too offensive or racist. The KKK is insensitive though.
Explain how? In what situations is Blackface ok? Does this party apply?
All I see is "they don't know any better" or "they don't mean anything by it" But those are just excuses not explanations about how Blackface isn't racist.
Nope. You have made your mind up, you have decided everyone who does it is a bad person. I will never change your mind. Enjoy your very narrow view of the world.
And before you start judging me, you should probably read my posts in the thread where I said I didn't like the idea of people painting their face difference skin colours for costumes. But drive on with your judgement and calling people wilfully ignorant. It will take you far.
Sho_Nuff82
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Newsflash: comedians get away with a lot of shit average people don't, because comedians are funny. The difference between Eddie Murphy, Seth McFarlane, or Trey Parker making a racist joke to break down barriers with their multicultural audience, and some frat kid having an all-white laugh-at-the-Africans party is pretty large.
Shamrock7r
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Comedic Genius!
Racist!
Racist!
I'm saying if you paint your face black it should be for a reason other than mockery.
I remember when we had a fancy dress party at uni. Some random girls put shoe polish on their face and claimed to be aliens. I was part shocked, part fucking amused but surprisingly not offended. As for this thread.| I don't think i'd be offended if it weren't for the blackface and KKK outfit.
cobragt4001
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It's funny to me that people find this offensive but don't find the protrayal of blacks in the US by the media offensive. Not trying to derail the thread but this shit, minus the KKK reference really ain't shit. And if the Aussies don't like blacks then at least they're being honest instead of trying to hide it like most Americans.
Why does costumed dress automatically mean mockery? You agreed above that comedians can do it in a non mocking manner so why can't regular people? The KKK dress, that was vile mockery, painting your face so you resemble another race isn't mockery unless there is context to make it mockery.
Blackface is racist. Painting yourself 'black' because you want to portray someone from Middle Africa isn't. And blackface is a concept that isn't that known around the world.
Is Robert Downey Jr racist because he painted himself 'black' for Tropic Thunder?
I uhh... think you missed the point of that movie.
Also I don't think open mockery is required for racial or cultural insensitivity...
This.
And regarding the bolded, if this was a 'blackface' style painting (aka enlarged features, lips etc etc) then it would have been mockery, but still as people are saying, this is more US based.
Sho_Nuff82
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Comedic Genius!
Racist!
You're not Dave Chappelle, and you're not funny. Removing context from comedy and it's...well, no longer comedy.
Edit: and holy shit someone actually posted the Tropic Thunder pic. In universe, the other characters actually have to explain to RDJ's character that it's pretty offensive that a white actor is playing a black character in a serious dramatic role. He has a heroic BSOD when he comes to realize that he's taken it too far. That scene is trotted out inappropriately more than the citizenkaneclapping.gif
Because there truly is no theme here. It's people dressing up as what they percieve to be "African". I wonder How a real African would have felt at that party. Would he/she have felt closer to home. Maybe admired the respect and attention the partiers paid to his or her culture.
It' supposedly an "African Costume" party. There are plenty of non blacks in africa. and plenty of costumes that don't involve skin.
His point was that the simple act of painting yourself black doesn't make you racist.
Robert Downey Jr. isn't a racist because the movie provided the right context
What if you want to dress up as Nelson Mandela? Is that simply not allowed?
Dig deep and try to think about how you can portray African culture with sensitivity and a respect for the things that make it worth representing.
And no, that's not by playing Simba.
And that right context is antithetical to 'black-face isn't inherently racist'.
Sho_Nuff82
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Easy litmus test.
Is the subject of your mockery invited to your party?
If they were, would they join in on the fun?
If not, it's probably racist.
As I said in the Asian UCSD "Compton Cookout Party" thread, you obviously don't invite the football team to your chicken and watermelon party, because you know better.
So that's the point of a themed party? To portray the topic of choice with sensitivity and a respect for the things that it represents? I never knew.
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