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[MrSaturn99]

Not really comfortable with drugs in general, but I'd be okay with pot legalization. Go after the more dangerous stuff, but put more focus on rehabilitation than prison.

 

[Epsilon-delta]

It is impossible to OD on weed, I would argue that Tylonal is more dangerous.

Anything over 4000mg of Tylenol can cause liver failure.

 

[Brian Griffin]

I wonder why there is such an obsession with pot politics in this country.

Because weed is at the center of a massive lie that has been driven into our heads since forever by the government. Now that it is widely understood that smoking pot won't make you shoot your friend in the face on a whim and that just about every other negative thing we were taught about it is false, people are pushing back. The cognitive dissonance caused by keeping weed illegal and alcohol legal is too great for a lot of people to handle.

 

[Culex]

Just from a tax revenue perspective, i don't understand why the federal government wouldn't want it legalized.

It gets you high you high, so treat it like we treat alcohol.

 

[ratcliffja]

why am i somewhat skeptical of this claim

I'm the same way. It's like inhaling too much helium and I hate the smell. It's certainly better than tobacco, though.

 

[Kadayi]

legalize weed and ban guns. Within 100 years we will be ready for real life star trek: the next generation

Set Phasers to stoned

But yeah, all for legalization. However the alcohol industry probably will lobby against it.

 

[pizza dog]

Set Phasers to stoned

But yeah, all for legalization. However the alcohol industry probably will lobby against it.

Big tobacco will lobby for. Fucking kaiju-scale lobby slugfest.

 

[demon]

Because weed is at the center of a massive lie that has been driven into our heads since forever by the government. Now that it is widely understood that smoking pot won't make you shoot your friend in the face on a whim and that just about every other negative thing we were taught about it is false, people are pushing back. The cognitive dissonance caused by keeping weed illegal and alcohol legal is too great for a lot of people to handle.

It's disproportinately damaging to african american communities as well. Think of the number of people's lives and families ruined over a stupid pot bust. We lead the world in imprisonment and that's largely because of pot, and that's not something to be proud of.

 

[Hale-XF11]

I wonder why there is such an obsession with pot politics in this country.

Marijuana is more popular than it's ever been because more and more people are learning the basic truths surrounding its prohibition as well as its medical efficacy, thanks in large part to the internet and the wealth of information it provides, scientific and otherwise.

Not only that, but I'd bet more people are turning to marijuana as a replacement for hard drugs, both illegal and legal.

 

[Professor Beef]

Interact with another human being? Are you high?

I see that you didn't read the post where she said that she did ask and we found out that the neighbor is a jackass.

 

[Jimothy]

Would rather they decriminalize all drugs instead of just pot. Once pot is legal, the general public will stop caring about the drug war because it's not affecting middle class white people anymore.

 

[J-Rod]

If they legalized it, it would be a lot cheaper and people wouldn't have to smoke it. Companies could make vaporizer cartridges, beverages, or whatever.

 

[kirby_fox]

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too. Some people won't mind, but I'd rather not go out on the town and wind up around a bunch of pot smokers anymore than I want to wind up around cigarettes or cigars (and I honestly love the law coming down on cigarette smoking in public).

Regulation isn't going to do shit either. People still smoke cigarettes where they aren't supposed to because they don't give a fuck-- why would pot be any different?

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

 

[No Love]

If they legalized it, it would be a lot cheaper and people wouldn't have to smoke it. Companies could make vaporizer cartridges, beverages, or whatever.

Thank you! Wish people would get that. It doesn't have to be smoked. There, is it ok now?

 

[Incognito]

We just had gay marriage. Sorry, pot, but you're just gonna have to wait or decade or two for full acceptance. This country can only take so much.

 

[Plasmid]

Source? If true just make the same as regular tobacco and limit it to 18+. Wouldn't stop kids from smoking it any more than they do now though.

I believe this is it.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2013/07/130724125028.htm

 

[KorrZ]

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too. Some people won't mind, but I'd rather not go out on the town and wind up around a bunch of pot smokers anymore than I want to wind up around cigarettes or cigars (and I honestly love the law coming down on cigarette smoking in public).

Regulation isn't going to do shit either. People still smoke cigarettes where they aren't supposed to because they don't give a fuck-- why would pot be any different?

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

It being illegal hasn't stopped anyone from smoking pot in public anyways - because just as you said for cigarettes laws/regulation doesn't do shit.

Just like with alcohol prohibition, if the majority of the population has disregard for the law then it effectively has no power.

 

[Ferrio]

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

...fuck

*puts down crown of sonnets*

 

[Brian Griffin]

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too. Some people won't mind, but I'd rather not go out on the town and wind up around a bunch of pot smokers anymore than I want to wind up around cigarettes or cigars (and I honestly love the law coming down on cigarette smoking in public).

Regulation isn't going to do shit either. People still smoke cigarettes where they aren't supposed to because they don't give a fuck-- why would pot be any different?

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

I can only really speak to Seattle on this but this is definitely not the case. Why? Because everyone who wants to smoke is already doing so, regardless of legality, and whenever I go to Seattle there aren't tons of people just blazing up everywhere. 2nd hand smoke can get you high but you have to want it to and really get your face in it. In an open air environment it would be pretty hard unless you shotgunned it from someone.

 

[Loxley]

And that number will only go up as Washington's and Colorado's laws fully come into effect and people realize that the world doesn't end as a result.

Yo, man, you don't know. Colorado and Washington might explode...there's still time.

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too. Some people won't mind, but I'd rather not go out on the town and wind up around a bunch of pot smokers anymore than I want to wind up around cigarettes or cigars (and I honestly love the law coming down on cigarette smoking in public).

Regulation isn't going to do shit either. People still smoke cigarettes where they aren't supposed to because they don't give a fuck-- why would pot be any different?

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

Wouldn't they just have to completely ban public weed smoking? I know you said people will just ignore the rules, but let's not pretend that there's going to be someone smoking weed on every corner now. Of course people will break the rules, they always will no matter what you do, but placing a heavy ban on all public weed smoking would be a big help in this regard.

 

[Roland1979]

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too.

Actually that is mostly theoretical. In Dutch coffee-shops (where they sell weed and not a single focus is on coffee) where strong cultivated weed is smoked literally all day you could likely only get high if you spend literally the whole day their. Of course if it does become legal the same rules should apply has for tobacco (which is no smoking in public buildings including buildings like diners and bars in The Netherlands).

 

[Matugi]

Weed isn't a poison though

Yes it is. I'm fully in support of legalization but you're kidding yourself if you think inhaling any sort of smoke into your lungs isn't bad for you. Vaping is a much better option.

 

[Brian Griffin]

Yes it is. I'm fully in support of legalization but you're kidding yourself if you think inhaling any sort of smoke into your lungs isn't bad for you. Vaping is a much better option.

You are right but I think when people say "weed isn't poisonous" they actually mean THC.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Yes it is. I'm fully in support of legalization but you're kidding yourself if you think inhaling any sort of smoke into your lungs isn't bad for you. Vaping is a much better option.

Feel free to say that smoking anything is poisonous, but the plant itself is non-toxic. If it weren't, we'd have deaths on record attributed solely to the usage of marijuana in ANY form.

That being said, there's yet to be a recorded death attributed strictly to smoking marijuana.

 

[BertramCooper]

Have you ever smelled weed? Shit is glorious and it smells nothing like cig smoke. I've always wanted it to come in incense form so I could smell it without having to smoke it.

I have no issues with people smoking pot, but it smells awful. Let's not kid ourselves here.

 

[Cheddahz]

People probably want people to shut up about it

 

[CountAntonius]

I hope this helps pave the way for its actual medical use. It has a bad rap both because of it being illegal and because some potheads just really make it look bad and scare away people who it could help greatly help with chronic pain.

Though I'm not comfortable with how much money and time a lot of the people I've known wasted when they began smoking and how often people drive while high. I'm aware it's not as bad or as deadly as alcohol but it doesn't have some immunity to addiction or impairing a person while driving like so many people seem to think it does.

I'm glad it's becoming legal because I do think unlike cigarettes and alcohol it does have positive qualities but I hope with it's legalization comes more responsibility in it's use.

 

[Hale-XF11]

I have no issues with people smoking pot, but it smells awful. Let's not kid ourselves here.

BREAKING NEWS: People who smoke pot generally like the smell of it while those that don't smoke it generally do not like the smell of it.

Internet responds by trying to convince one another that the other person's opinion is the wrong opinion.

 

[NinjaTehFish]

I have no issues with people smoking pot, but it smells awful. Let's not kid ourselves here.

Im pretty sure these guys are talking about the actual smell of the cured buds and not the smoke after burning. Completely different and yes the smell is god like. I love shoving my nose in big 'ol bag of budsicles.

 

[SuperAngelo64]

If it destroys the shit show that is 'weed culture' then I'm all for it.

The sooner weed normalizes into society and breaks away from Bob Marley wallscrolls and tacky windshield stickers the better.

(I live on the Cali coast).

 

[BertramCooper]

Im pretty sure these guys are talking about the actual smell of the cured buds and not the smoke after burning. Completely different and yes the smell is god like. I love shoving my nose in big 'ol bag of budsicles.

Brian Griffin specifically said "smells nothing like cig smoke," which is the post I was responding to.

BREAKING NEWS: People who smoke pot generally like the smell of it while those that don't smoke it generally do not like the smell of it.

Internet responds by trying to convince each another that the other person's opinion is the wrong opinion.

No need to be defensive and obnoxious.

 

[Hale-XF11]

Brian Griffin specifically said "smells nothing like cig smoke."



No need to be defensive and obnoxious.

Sorry, I'm just sick and tired of the bullshit non-arguments that are so pervasive on the internet these days, but especially on GAF. I should probably take a break from the internet for a bit...

 

[BertramCooper]

Sorry, I'm just sick and tired of the bullshit non-arguments that are so pervasive on the internet these days, but especially on GAF. I should probably take a break from the internet for a bit...

I wasn't even making an argument against pot legalization. I support it.

I just think it smells terrible.

 

[NinjaTehFish]

I wasn't even making an argument against pot legalization. I support it.

I just think it smells terrible.

NO YOU WILL LIKE IT AND ENJOY IT AND THEN WE WILL BAKE COOKIES AND FINGERPAINT WHILE FIRE TWIRLING AND MAKING SAND UNICRONS ON THE BEACH.

 

[CTE]

I have no issues with people smoking pot, but it smells awful. Let's not kid ourselves here.

The faster we legalize it fully, the faster we get products to mask the odor and other things that help people who don't like the smell. We already have vape pens for concentrates and such so it's only going to improve from here.

I can use a vape pen and take about 5 or 6 hits from it and have someone walk into the room afterward without even realizing what I just did.

 

[General Choomin]

Just because it smells better than two really bad things doesn't mean it actually smells nice.

Though I can only speculate that MAYBE I smelled it in the air before without confirming for sure, though given the amount of usage and the analogies I can believe it.

EDIT: And the smell is completely secondary to whether it should be legal or not, frankly just knocking the wind out of some of these cartels would be enough reason to me, nevermind how relatively benign it really is.

Maybe a skunk farted and someone said that was skunk and you thought it was a type of weed?

 

[Anticitizen One]

Remember when Obama was making fun of potheads and laughing at legalization like it was some absurd concept. I wonder if he's going to change his tune now.

 

[Kwixotik]

Remember when Obama was making fun of potheads and laughing at legalization like it was some absurd concept. I wonder if he's going to change his tune now.

Probably not, it's not going to happen while he's in office.

 

[BeerSnob]

So, any decade now we'll have an end to prohibition....yep...any decade now...I'm sure it's on its way...we just have to be patient...


I hate this country's drug laws.

 

[kirby_fox]

It being illegal hasn't stopped anyone from smoking pot in public anyways - because just as you said for cigarettes laws/regulation doesn't do shit.

I feel that making it legal will bring out a lot more people who keep it private in home, even if you make it illegal to smoke it in public. It'd be hard to enforce, and a $20 fine for doing it isn't gonna scare people any more than smoking fines do.

In an open air environment it would be pretty hard unless you shotgunned it from someone.

There must've been just a shiton of weed at that outside concert then...or I am weak as fuck when it comes to pot. I would not doubt either.

Wouldn't they just have to completely ban public weed smoking?

This is a huge problem- if you ban it then you have to ban all smoking outside of your home including cigarettes. I see the cigarette lobbyists not liking that for one minute. And if you don't ban cigarettes, it'd be hard to enforce it and we're just back to people doing what they want anyways. Which apparently is normal in Seattle.

...fuck

*puts down crown of sonnets*

We can still be friends!

 

[General Choomin]

Remember when Obama was making fun of potheads and laughing at legalization like it was some absurd concept. I wonder if he's going to change his tune now.

Yeah obama was an asshole then. Started laughing at a guy who was talking about legalizing and taxing marijuana to create jobs during the economic meltdown. I guess he felt putting people in prison and ruining their lives for a thing he did all the time in hawaii was alright.

 

[demon]

This is a huge problem- if you ban it then you have to ban all smoking outside of your home including cigarettes. I see the cigarette lobbyists not liking that for one minute. And if you don't ban cigarettes, it'd be hard to enforce it and we're just back to people doing what they want anyways. Which apparently is normal in Seattle.

This is nonsense. There is no reason you can't ban one without banning the other. They banned drinking alcohol in public without banning drinking soda in public.

Anyway, those are pretty weak concerns you have. Smoking pot is a relatively harmless activity and you shouldn't be imprisoned for doing so. Marijuana laws have done enough damage to people's lives and communities and it's time for it to end.

 

[gutter_trash]

stop throwing people in jail for puny possession. Your prison system is a farce

 

[umop_3pisdn]

Maybe in a dose that's impossible to actually feasibly ingest

Nope. Actually it is not. There is no dose that a human can do which can kill.

A 'poison' doesn't have to kill you, everything has a potential for harm at the appropriate dose. With cannabis that would be suggested by its correlation with cognitive decline in teens or heavy users.

I'm not saying that that's a big deal, but he's right, everything is going to have some kind of deleterious effect at a certain dose.

 

[Lazyslob]

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too. Some people won't mind, but I'd rather not go out on the town and wind up around a bunch of pot smokers anymore than I want to wind up around cigarettes or cigars (and I honestly love the law coming down on cigarette smoking in public).

Regulation isn't going to do shit either. People still smoke cigarettes where they aren't supposed to because they don't give a fuck-- why would pot be any different?

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

No one is going to be smoking out in public that much is regulated. Of course there will be people that don't. If there are places like a pot cafe or something I bet that would be a good place to do something like that. And just being in the same room with someone smoking pot wont make you high. You just sound paranoid. Herb has a small percentage thc and the smoke that comes out of your lungs probably has even less. You'd have to be breathing that for hours to even get a little high.

 

[h1nch]

As I repeatedly state in every single Marijuana thread, there does not exist a single reason to justify marijuana use being illegal.

Sorry, but "it smells bad" is not a legitimate reason for putting people in jail.

 

[gutter_trash]

our next Prime Minister for 2015 will legalize it

 

[CriginsMcJuggs]

Actually thinking about it, let's just keep it illegal.

What you're going to get are a ton of people who smoke it going out in the public and smoking in places. And 2nd hand smoke can give others a high too. Some people won't mind, but I'd rather not go out on the town and wind up around a bunch of pot smokers anymore than I want to wind up around cigarettes or cigars (and I honestly love the law coming down on cigarette smoking in public).

Regulation isn't going to do shit either. People still smoke cigarettes where they aren't supposed to because they don't give a fuck-- why would pot be any different?

I don't like getting high, but I don't care if you do it away from me (and I'm not dating you, because smoking in any form is a huge turnoff).

ehh, but you would need to be locked in a heavy hotbox for a long time for this too happen. All the active ingredients are removed from the smoke if it's held in for 3-5 seconds, so only if the smokers aren't experienced.

 

[Hunter S.]

This is not the first time. Polls showed this over a year ago.

 

[Officerrob]

Like gay marriage, it's only a matter of time