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The dudes from Simplepickup motorboat girls for breast cancer awareness.

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Of course it does, but that $6,000,000,000 figure means that:

1) The loss of $7,000 is not nearly as important as SimplePickup's response makes it out to be; and
2) Assuming that the people who found the video problematic haven't donated anything is silly, because obviously tons of people donate.

Uhhhh, what? ANY loss of money is very important, that money could have helped save someones life.
 
Claiming to be "sex-positive" after expressing sexually-conservative views strikes me as being fairly analogous to the "but I have a black friend" defense.
 
Uhhhh, what? ANY loss of money is very important, that money could have helped save someones life.

For charities that depend on persistent donors and the brand health that brings in new donors, rejecting the video is worth much more than $7,000 in the future.
 
What a hollow victory, for anyone who thinks it is one. And I -know- some people will have cheered.

Hopefully they'll donate the money anonymously.

The irony is that all these morons trying to protect these women have only in succeeded in keeping money out of the hands of people who need it, and for the women who participated now they just motorboated for no reason.

Good job guys.
 
How is this helpful in any way?

I think that it's relevant considering some of the crazy posts itt. I don't know about the first couple of words but "Sex-Fearing Bubble-Person Prudism" is pretty accurate for many of them.

They judge people and situations using ridiculous standards that are completely incompatible with the real world (thus the bubble person) and they are extremely prude trying to paint everything that involves sex as perverted, exploitative, creepy and so on especially if it involves men. This thread is testament to it. Fun fact: the person asking "What the hell?" at Evilore's post was comparing the situation to rape, blackmail and sexual assault just a few pages ago.

I'm a big proponent of equal rights but crap like this is have nothing to do with equal rights and everything to do with internet feminism's (or to be more precise a very big part of it) fear/hate of sex.
 
For charities that depend on persistent donors and the brand health that brings in new donors, rejecting the video is worth much more than $7,000 in the future.

Ok cool. Everyone else stop donating to Breast Cancer! Persistent Donors got this shit!


How do you know its worth more in the future? Whos to say that the people this charity gained from refusing this money is larger than the people they lost due to this?
 
You shouldn't be basing your opinions off anything one person says on a matter. There could be thousands of breast cancer survivors that have no problem with the video, but your whole opinion hinges on the opinion of one person you asked and now you feel that your opinion is right because one breast cancer survivor agrees with you.
Who said I was? I'm most definitley going by how I feel. The reason I used her as an example is to show that a victim was offended so anyone acting like there's no victims that care are wrong.

I will say I think their viewpoint is a heck of a lot more important than mine or yours.
I didn't call anyone a troll. I said I hope
y'all are trolling because otherwise I would have to pity you.
You're dismissing our view's as trolling, so yes, you're basically calling us trolls unless we conform to your opinion.

Claiming to be "sex-positive" after expressing sexually-conservative views strikes me as being fairly analogous to the "but I have a black friend" defense.
Where have I expressed sexually conservative views? In fact, most posters in the thread haven't. Look how many of us are in the Rashida Jones thread calling her out on calling women whores for exposing themselves in the industry.
 
Ok cool. Everyone else stop donating to Breast Cancer! Persistent Donors got this shit!

That's the exact opposite of what I said.


How do you know its worth more in the future? Whos to say that the people this charity gained from refusing this money is larger than the people they lost due to this?

Because that's how PR works? Brand health is utmost, and being associated with people who can potentially harm your brand is always a bad idea.
 
Who said I was? I'm most definitley going by how I feel. The reason I used her as an example is to show that a victim was offended so anyone acting like there's no victims that care are wrong.

I will say I think their viewpoint is a heck of a lot more important than mine or yours.

You're dismissing our view's as trolling, so yes, you're basically calling us trolls unless we conform to your opinion.


Where have I expressed sexually conservative views? In fact, most posters in the thread haven't. Look how many of us are in the Rashida Jones thread calling her out on calling women whores for exposing themselves in the industry.
I agree that it is. I'm just saying just because some people don't like something doesn't necessarily mean that thing is wrong.
 
Ah sorry, I wasn't clear in explaining what I meant. I was referring to being called prudish in regards to anything sexual related.

You're completely right in that someone could say, be sexually open while being prudish towards something such as swearing.

Eh, what I'm saying is that one can be sexually open in one situation and prudish towards sex in another.
 
Is it childish and dumb? Sure...but unlike most childish and dumb internet stuff...this actually contributed to a good cause. I understand why some women are offended by this so I won't attack them, but come on. $7000.

Pornhub had a breast cancer drive last year iirc, where they donated add/hit money to charities. I spent a year days busting nuts there instead of at Xhamster, just to support a good cause. Ultimately the money went to a good cause, who cares.
 
Eh, what I'm saying is that one can be sexually open in one situation and prudish towards sex in another.
Fair enough. I still don't think that applies to anyone in the thread, however.
Also you can't read which is another problem...

I can read perfectly fine, thank you. You said you hoped we were all trolls for our sake. Sure, you're not technically calling us trolls but you're basically saying our argument is trolling and if not you "pity" us which is basically just an excuse to dismiss our argument.
 
I guess I still don't understand why thinking that using incentivized donation for breast cancer to motorboat women is gross makes me a prude.
 
Can we rename Internet Feminism to something like Basement-Virgin First-Semester-Women's-Issues-Major Sex-Fearing Bubble-Person Prudism? That has more of a ring to it.

That doesn't really describe me, and I'm someone who's a feminist both on the internet and outside of it.
 
I guess I still don't understand why thinking that using incentivized donation for breast cancer to motorboat women is gross makes me a prude.

If it makes you feel better, I disagree with you wholeheartedly on the topic but I don't think it makes you a prude.
 
I guess I still don't understand why thinking that using incentivized donation for breast cancer to motorboat women is gross makes me a prude.

Because it's a thinly veiled excuse to criticize the sexual content of the video and people have repeatedly proven to you itt how terrible of an excuse it is.
 
I guess I still don't understand why thinking that using incentivized donation for breast cancer to motorboat women is gross makes me a prude.

It doesn't make you a prude.

People need to understand that we don't have any issue with someone motorboating womens breasts as long as there is consent. Where our issue takes place is as you said, using incentivized donation to do it.
 
I guess I still don't understand why thinking that using incentivized donation for breast cancer to motorboat women is gross makes me a prude.

In addition to Scooter's comments...

Whether it was your intention or not, I think the effect of presenting yourself as "sex-positive" (which is not something I'm disputing--you very well may be just that) creates the effect of you serving as an arbiter of what is and what isn't acceptable for seemingly consenting adults to do (or have done to them). It rhetorically positions you as someone with the authority to redefine the notion of consent on the spot, which I find somewhat insulting and infantilizing.
 
Because it's a thinly veiled excuse to criticize the sexual content of the video and people have repeatedly proven to you itt how terrible of an excuse it is.

Oh, so I am just against the sexual content of the video by itself? I am not allowed, from this moment, to have any criticism of anything that is remotely related to anything sexual because that automatically makes me a prude just freaking out over sex? Huh.
 
In addition to Scooter's comments...

Whether it was your intention or not, I think the effect of presenting yourself as "sex-positive" (which is not something I'm disputing--you very well may be just that) creates the effect of you serving as an arbiter of what is and what isn't acceptable for seemingly consenting adults to do (or have done to them). It rhetorically positions you as someone with the authority to redefine the notion of consent on the spot, which I find somewhat insulting and infantilizing.

Most people, like fiction, were only saying that because people were calling them prudes. Any other meaning you have taken from that (particularly a stuck up one) is not the fault of those who said it.
 
Most people, like fiction, were only saying that because people were calling them prudes. Any other meaning you have taken from that (particularly a stuck up one) is not the fault of those who said it.

And like I said earlier, it sounds very similar to "I'm not racist, I have a black friend!"
 
Pornhub had a breast cancer drive last year iirc, where they donated add/hit money to charities. I spent a year days busting nuts there instead of at Xhamster, just to support a good cause. Ultimately the money went to a good cause, who cares.
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edit: I've seen the thread eariler this week but been missing it, I do understand alot of the outrage
 
I guess I still don't understand why thinking that using incentivized donation for breast cancer to motorboat women is gross makes me a prude.

It just seems like alot of modern feminism/social justice activism tends to make the leap from "that's tasteless, and I don't personally like it" to "What patriarchal garbage! We must shame this into oblivion!"

Not saying that's necessarily what you, specifically, are doing in this thread, but as I said, I don't think it's so obscure that people who seem to want to govern others' sexual experiences and attitudes might be called prudish, in a broad sense, even if they're doing so for seemingly progressive reasons.

Edit: I think "bubble people" likely refers more to the idea that such people live in a bubble, separated from the actual world around them.
 
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300g flour
.5 tablespoon sugar
2 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon instant yeast
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It's pretty basic stuff.

As for "porn folders", aren't they a bit passé?
Why download something you'll probably never watch more than once when you can stream an infinite configuration of titillating pixels?
 
what the hell? I was wondering why this thread was still chugging along. Come in and find out that their donation was rejected? What a bunch of crap. Probably a bunch of internet prudes white knighting, but then when their horny turn to porn and have no problem with a lot of the degrading shit that women have to do in a lot of porn, as long as they can rub one out!
 
Edit: I think "bubble people" likely refers more to the idea that such people live in a bubble, separated from the actual world around them.
Then I really don't get it.

As for "porn folders", aren't they a bit passé?
Why download something you'll probably never watch more than once when you can stream an infinite configuration of titillating pixels?
Porn folders are for material that has been given to you and you can't find anywhere else. Maybe I'm weird for liking to look through that stuff more than once.
 
Then I really don't get it.


Porn folders are for material that has been given to you and you can't find anywhere else. Maybe I'm weird for liking to look through that stuff more than once.

I tend to only keep exceptional porn. Otherwise I just stream it. I might be odd, but most of the time it only erm, works the first time I watch it. Though if I go back to it several months/years later, it does get going again.
 
I'm sorry but that's a silly comparison. One happens to be a victim of what she's disgusted at while the other is homophobia.

It matters because she was a victim of breast cancer. Should we never care what rape victims think if they're offended by something representing rape inappropriately?

As for why she was disgusted, she thinks the focus on saving boobies is wrong and offensive. Who gives a shit about saving boobs? It's the lives that matter.
It wasn't really a "comparison." It was more an example to show that just because someone finds something offensive doesn't really mean anything in and of itself. One's reasons behind those feelings are more important.

But I'm not sure the focus was on saving boobies. Or at least, I think they intended "boobies" to be a stand-in for the women who have them. And they assumed that people were intelligent enough to understand that. We refer to people by their characteristics all the time. "Those redheads over there" or "Who are the suits?" or "Check out Mr. Muscles" or any other number of examples. Saving "boobies" is just a tongue-in-cheek metaphor. Granted, I'm sure there's a bit of a literal element to it in that these guys also want to save actual breasts because they enjoy them, but I think it's clear they're talking about saving people's lives as well. It's not an either/or proposition.

Because they're making it all about breasts while also getting something out of it. It's not a matter of being consensual because the women they're doing this to could have had a multitude of reasons for agreeing. Maybe they didn't care or they felt pressured to do it for breast cancer or maybe they thought they would be called prudes. People are assuming all of these women did it happily with no problems.
I'm still not understanding why them getting something out of the deal is a bad thing. Again, it might not be the optimally good thing, but how is it bad?

And, sure, the women could have a multitude of reasons for agreeing. But outside of coercion through violence or something like that, I'm not sure why that matters. If I offered you $5 to give me a high five, you might only acquiesce because you don't want to seem uptight or you might really need the money or you might just really like high fives. Who knows? But I will treat you as a mature adult who is capable of handling such a decision. Just like here, I assume those women are competent and capable enough to make that decision for themselves. Just like I'd assume men would be competent and capable enough to make such a decision.

Yes, they might have felt pressure. But that's true of so many decisions that people make daily ("Should I go out with this guy even though my parents disapprove of him?", "What should I wear today at the interview to make the best impression?", "Everyone else is taking shots, should I have one?"). You wouldn't ask the same questions about those decisions. Why is this one any different?

I think you do a disservice to women when you treat them as children incapable of choosing things on their own. Even if social pressure is involved. News flash: women are sometimes capable of standing up to social pressure. And I'm sure there were a lot who did and were left out of the video.
 
300g flour
.5 tablespoon sugar
2 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon instant yeast
1.5 tablespoon olive oil
200ml warm water

Sounds gross. 4/10 would not eat!

I'm a little torn on this. On one hand they could of given some money to research, but on the other the whole thing comes off a a little sleezy and childish. But the ladies in the video seems okay with the whole thing, so I don't know.
 
My porn folder is also for stuff that was "given" to me as well but when I saw that I mean its of people I know personally. Yes, I like to save that stuff and yes, it gets used sometimes.

You sexual deviants you. Sharing porn, watching porn together, what's next? Making some sexy videos yourselves?

Indeed :P
 
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