That's always something of a crapshot, though it does seem usually that the best results come from new developers that are either allowed to be fairly loose (Metroid Prime essentially) or aren't entirely new and it's more a change of heads (Dark Souls II looks to HOPEFULLY be this.)
Batman: Arkham Origins Review Thread
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bloodyroarxx
Member
That exactly what it seems like.
The gamespot review seems to imply this is how the reviewer felt.
shikamaroooo
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Vire
Member
Dark Souls II is a new team/lead? Didn't know, still have yet to get into the beta. :/
Exactly what I expected. Or rather, that they had too much respect/too little time to do something more unique and different.
I say this only because I am playing the game and I've felt like this while playing AC sometimes. I only bought this, because it was cheap (25 on pc, with deathstroke) and had nothing else to play this month.
Of course I'm also a big batman fan.
I got it on ebay for 25$.. from an Nvidia bundle code. Granted you are looking for the PC copy.
Poetic.Injustice
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Samir Sedlar
Member
Fixed! Thanks for that! I wanted to change it to the GI score, but that 8.5 took up too much space, so luckily Gamespot gave it a 6 heh.
Glad you guys liked it!
TheKingOfPain
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Laughable taglines, at the very least.
Devilgunman
Member
Wow, what a bummer. This is what happens when you let somebody else make your game.
if you're trying to convince yourself that the game is bad, your dead wrong.
Hahahaa this slays me, nice laugh before I go to bed XDSorry guys, I was really, really bored (not bashing, I'm still interested in playing it eventually)
Seriously, that pizza quote, hahaha
Regarding the game, had no hype for this game despite ADORING City and Asylum. Even with the lack of hype and the middling review scores, though, I have to say the GAF impressions paint a very enticing picture. I'd like to check it out once I get the backlog under control!
The Mana Legend
Banned
I love that Arkham combat too much to ignore this one. If the world and missions are boring, then oh well. That was the case with City and I still loved that too.
The reviews are what I expected, and are not deterring me from the game. These are new developers and it's nice to see that they still made a decent game out of it. They'll be a good go between if for whatever reason WB wants to turn Batman into a yearly franchise.
semiconscious
Member
same. not anticipating, or needing, any kinda transcendental experience here. just some bat-fun
...No I'm not, but that is one way to draw a conclusion from my post
I loved the first two Arkham games and Asylum is probably my favorite metroidvania of the entire generation, I just remember saying months ago in the main announcement thread for this that this game wouldn't end up as being well received among critics as Arkham City or Arkham Asylum in the end and so far it doesn't look like it will be and it didn't sit well with a few people when I said that at the time for who the hell knows what reason.
That doesn't necessarily make it a bad game either and I'm not saying it will be a bad game don't get me wrong here, since 7/10s and 8/10s aren't "bad" review scores its just looking like the scores for Origins are not going to be as high as it's two predecessors.
The Gaming Zen
Banned
It's really great that a new studio, having to make one of most well respected comic book based games was able to achieve (by the looks of it since I haven't played it) a very enjoyable good Batman game. Most of us were worried it was going to suck, but if it's more Batman you are looking for then it looks like we got it! The lower scores seem have not liked that it was more of the same along with bad multiplayer. Reading it has a great story, awesome boss battles, and great combat from the Sess I'm super excited for another round with this wonderful franchise!
Yeah, you guys are probably right. There had to be a logical explanation for this!
And this is sad, because there's no reason for this game to score lower than uncharted 3 for example. Double standards from the press as usual.
Messofanego
Banned
Hey, Urban Chaos was a damn cool game!
Tasing dudes until they burn. Vire, your logic would work the same if your favourite comic book franchise was Batman and it was handed off to Rocksteady who had only done Urban Chaos: Riot Response instead of other world class developers. Many people were confused and angry at the time that a game for such an iconic franchise was in the hands of nobodies.
Developers themselves fuck up on sequels too, they doesn't need another developer to screw it all up. Hell, I thought Bungie fucked up Halo with Halo 2's mediocre single player campaign (those awful graphics, too) and they've been chasing that Halo 1 high ever since. Sometimes, a fresh set of eyes can revitalise a franchise.
There aren't many cases of a different developer making as good a game, that's true. Darkness 2 was a much better game than the first mechanically and still had the storytelling chops that you'd expect from a Starbreeze game even if it lost the non-linear world structure (but gained with adding another world). Deus Ex Human Revolution (Eidos Montreal) is not as expansive as Deus Ex 1, but it's still a worthy successor compared to Deus Ex Invisible War which was still done by the original developer and was shunned by fans forever.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Hey, Urban Chaos was a damn cool game!
Vire, your logic would work the same if your favourite comic book franchise was Batman and it was handed off to Rocksteady who had only done Urban Chaos: Riot Response instead of other world class developers. Many people were confused and angry at the time that a game for such an iconic franchise was in the hands of nobodies.
Developers themselves fuck up on sequels too, they doesn't need another developer to screw it all up. Hell, I thought Bungie fucked up Halo with Halo 2's mediocre single player campaign (those awful graphics, too) and they've been chasing that Halo 1 high ever since. Sometimes, a fresh set of eyes can revitalise a franchise.
There aren't many cases of a different developer making as good a game, that's true. Darkness 2 was a much better game than the first mechanically and still had the storytelling chops that you'd expect from a Starbreeze game even if it lost the non-linear world structure (but gained with adding another world). Deus Ex Human Revolution (Eidos Montreal) is not as expansive as Deus Ex 1, but it's still a worthy successor compared to Deus Ex Invisible War which was still done by the original developer and was shunned by fans forever.
Don't forget Max Payne 3...
CosmicGroinPull
Member
I'm perfectly fine with my favourite franchise being handed off to another developer, as long as that developer is of equal pedigree. (See: DmC/ dMc of dmC or whatever (for a worst case example))
Messofanego
Banned
Don't forget Max Payne 3...
Oh you
I'll get you on a Brit GAF meetup. Just you wait...
I had a bullet with Screaming Meat's name on it. I had ten thousand bullets with the GAFer's name on them.
Sorry guys, I was really, really bored (not bashing, I'm still interested in playing it eventually)
Brilliant!
I really enjoyed the first two Arkham games, but I was never able to muster up excitement for this one. With reviews like this I'm probably getting the game from a bargain bin sometime next year.
PhantomZone
Member
I love the cutscenes, fast and furious action
simplythebest
Banned
So is the framerate on the PS3 version as bad as the reviews this game has gotten?
Super disappointing, i thought the game would get from 8-9 scores.
And while 6s and 7s arent that much worse, in the video game journalism handbook of reviews, its the worst scores the game could have possibly gotten, realistically wise since games, especially big AAA titles are judged on the 7-10 score
Ill still play it first to judge for myself, but man this sucks
And while 6s and 7s arent that much worse, in the video game journalism handbook of reviews, its the worst scores the game could have possibly gotten, realistically wise since games, especially big AAA titles are judged on the 7-10 score
Ill still play it first to judge for myself, but man this sucks
most people who have played it seem to enjoy it. it seems its only sin is that it's more of the same.
Screaming Meat
Unconfirmed Member
Oh you
I'll get you on a Brit GAF meetup. Just you wait...
I had a bullet with Screaming Meat's name on it. I had ten thousand bullets with the GAFer's name on them.
Heheheheh! I imagine the meet-up will end up like this.
I was compelled to give Messofanego's Max Payne 3 thread back. One comment at a time.
We can also talk about Tangiers!
Was hoping this game would be really good, but it is from a new developer and I wasn't entirely sold on the prequel aspect considering how much hinting and winking there was in AC about the future of the franchise. I really enjoyed the first two games though, so I'll pick it up... at 50-75% off.
doniewhalberg
Member
Have you been reading the reviews though? I've read a good few and none of them have read like that. All have been fair, and seem to be putting across what the game is and isn't, and under what circumstances it might still be for you. Read the eurogamer review. I don't know, your statement reads like you caught the numbers, not the reviews. It kind of comes across as you perpetuating the assumption that 7 is that bad. The eurogamer review is a really fair one and I think they justified the 7 despite it's sitting that much higher in my mind.
Haha, brilliant quote.
KoruptData
Member
I'll actually trust a comic site review the most in this occasion. A love letter to Batman.
http://www.newsarama.com/19390-batm...iew-best-story-yet-love-letter-to-batman.html
http://www.newsarama.com/19390-batm...iew-best-story-yet-love-letter-to-batman.html
Well that's a shame. It's the most fun game in the series.
Here is our review: http://www.jeuxvideomagazine.com/Tests/Test-Batman-Arkham-Origins
LaunchpadMcQ
Banned
I agree with the scores and the reviewers; however, it does prove how inconsistent they are. 6 and 7 should be fair and good, respectively. If nothing has changed from the last game, like we expected, the game's score should reflect as such and this is definitely one of those cases. The problem is how games like COD still get a high number when they're guilty of the same thing, and worse since they put them out every year. I know it's pretty obvious at this point, but at the very least, these reviews highlights the issue with these reviewers and their "scores".
Not to mention, most of these reviewers barely dedicate a few sentences to multiplayer, and most of it is just factual information that we already know. I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that reviewers are only obligated to play half a game to review it.
Not to mention, most of these reviewers barely dedicate a few sentences to multiplayer, and most of it is just factual information that we already know. I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that reviewers are only obligated to play half a game to review it.
Vire
Member
Hey, Urban Chaos was a damn cool game!
Vire, your logic would work the same if your favourite comic book franchise was Batman and it was handed off to Rocksteady who had only done Urban Chaos: Riot Response instead of other world class developers. Many people were confused and angry at the time that a game for such an iconic franchise was in the hands of nobodies.
Developers themselves fuck up on sequels too, they doesn't need another developer to screw it all up. Hell, I thought Bungie fucked up Halo with Halo 2's mediocre single player campaign (those awful graphics, too) and they've been chasing that Halo 1 high ever since. Sometimes, a fresh set of eyes can revitalise a franchise.
There aren't many cases of a different developer making as good a game, that's true. Darkness 2 was a much better game than the first mechanically and still had the storytelling chops that you'd expect from a Starbreeze game even if it lost the non-linear world structure (but gained with adding another world). Deus Ex Human Revolution (Eidos Montreal) is not as expansive as Deus Ex 1, but it's still a worthy successor compared to Deus Ex Invisible War which was still done by the original developer and was shunned by fans forever.
While what you are saying has some truth to it definitely...
I'd be more inclined to agree with you if Rocksteady had just royally fucked up the last game the made. (Which I don't think they did, AC was still great) and the series desperately need of a new direction. As you said though, I'm having trouble thinking of many series where the games get better after another developer takes over.
IdreamofHIME
Member
The reviews are hardly a surprise, I think WB knew what they were doing when they got a 2nd tier team in to just make a facsimile of the last game....
...but it is crazy how many reviews want to point out how similar Origins is to City and how it's not the original developer, but then every year give Call of Duty a free pass.
...but it is crazy how many reviews want to point out how similar Origins is to City and how it's not the original developer, but then every year give Call of Duty a free pass.
After a couple of hours I gotta say that Origins definitely doesn't feel like a Rocksteady-quality game. My main gripes after 2 hours:
And that's probably just the beginning... All in all, I'm not that impressed at all.
* After facing Deathstroke the door to the exits were locked. Reloaded the game and they could be opened.
* Fighting a random group of thugs there was one enemy remaining that just couldn't be attacked and walked around in a defensive position with a bat. I gave him a remote batarang and he fell, but it didn't give any XP.
* During the Anarky mission I had to traverse the Arkham bridge several times. How fucking boring is that?
* The cutscenes are awesome but on PC the quality is fucking horrible. I'd expected more than blurry 720p cutscenes...
* Fighting a random group of thugs there was one enemy remaining that just couldn't be attacked and walked around in a defensive position with a bat. I gave him a remote batarang and he fell, but it didn't give any XP.
* During the Anarky mission I had to traverse the Arkham bridge several times. How fucking boring is that?
* The cutscenes are awesome but on PC the quality is fucking horrible. I'd expected more than blurry 720p cutscenes...
And that's probably just the beginning... All in all, I'm not that impressed at all.