michaelius
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Palit refence cards - same as everyone else
Palit non reference cards - cost cutting changes might be lower quality than competitors, sometimes non reference pcbs which make it impossible to water cool.
Nvidia slashes prices on GeForce GTX 780 and GTX 770 GPUs
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Palit refence cards - same as everyone else
Palit non reference cards - cost cutting changes might be lower quality than competitors, sometimes non reference pcbs which make it impossible to water cool.
19% vs 21% taxes. It's the reason why most people I know use NL webshops because they end up cheaper, even with P&P.
How is the gainward phantom? It looks pretty slick. Gainward is a subsidiary of Palit afaik.
This is a good start.
I'm planning to build a reasonable, reasonably priced gaming PC early next year. Probably no later than April. I'll be watching to see how AMD's Mantle API does with BF4 (and other FB3 games) over the next several months and I'll keep an eye on GTX 780 and 780 Ti prices before I make my decision. I trust Nvidia drivers more than I do AMD's but we'll see how things go.
I wouldn't expect Nvidia's 20nm Maxwell GPUs out until late Q3 2014. So assuming I do build a new PC next year I won't upgrade again until Maxwell's overhaul / successor, Volta (with 3D stacked memory) comes out in late 2016 or 2017.
I'm planning to build a reasonable, reasonably priced gaming PC early next year. Probably no later than April. I'll be watching to see how AMD's Mantle API does with BF4 (and other FB3 games) over the next several months and I'll keep an eye on GTX 780 and 780 Ti prices before I make my decision. I trust Nvidia drivers more than I do AMD's but we'll see how things go.
I wouldn't expect Nvidia's 20nm Maxwell GPUs out until late Q3 2014. So assuming I do build a new PC next year I won't upgrade again until Maxwell's overhaul / successor, Volta (with 3D stacked memory) comes out in late 2016 or 2017.
I'm not sure how pre-ordering cards work in my country with price changes but Mycom has a pretty decent price for the 290x unless i'm overlooking something, http://mycom.nl/componenten/videokaarten/448924/sapphire-radeon-r9-290x4gb.
Then that's a great price if you're looking for the best performance.
Then that's a great price if you're looking for the best performance.
Prophet Steve
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Hnnnnnngggggh, including Arkham Origins.
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The same as everywhere else, although here you pay before it gets shipped usually. Just order it and it will get delivered in a month.
Prophet Steve
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Imagine when some game prices are close to GBP = USD. Sometimes only 10% less or so.
It is a good price, and it will have better performance than the 780, even without Mantle. The 780 will now be slightly cheaper though and include Batman Origins (AMD still has not announced anything about their Never Settle Bundle, but I hope it will come).
Besides that, Nvidia hopes to have a premium with software support, which certainly does it for me. More reliable frametimes, even when AMD is much progress with that, G-Sync, PhysX, Shadowplay, Geforce Experience, etc.
IAmRandom31
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I'm torn on which direction to go with my next GPU. The time is drawing near when I will want a new GPU but right now .. it is very difficult.
You have AMD with the Mantle and all that jazz along with decent prices of their GPUs. I am sticking withing the 200-300$ price range which gives me the options of ...
AMD :
7950
7870
7970 - for now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131468
If I wanted to go to the very top of the 300$ limit that seems to get me the R9 280X 3GB
Nvidia :
Geforce GTX 660
GTX 660 Ti
GTX 760
Def. going to push to 3GB minimum as I see VRAM usage very quickly jumping high this generation since both consoles have plenty of it.
I am Def. leaning toward the R9 280X 3GB for sure. Could be a worthy investment at 300$ on Newegg.
NM that that was a Powercolor card. Not ever getting one of those things. According to Tom's either the GTX 760 in the 250$ range is best or the 280X in the low 300's is my best bets. My only concern is with the way the GPU market seems to be in flux right now, when will their be a better card within the 250-300$ price range?
You have AMD with the Mantle and all that jazz along with decent prices of their GPUs. I am sticking withing the 200-300$ price range which gives me the options of ...
AMD :
7950
7870
7970 - for now http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814131468
If I wanted to go to the very top of the 300$ limit that seems to get me the R9 280X 3GB
Nvidia :
Geforce GTX 660
GTX 660 Ti
GTX 760
Def. going to push to 3GB minimum as I see VRAM usage very quickly jumping high this generation since both consoles have plenty of it.
I am Def. leaning toward the R9 280X 3GB for sure. Could be a worthy investment at 300$ on Newegg.
NM that that was a Powercolor card. Not ever getting one of those things. According to Tom's either the GTX 760 in the 250$ range is best or the 280X in the low 300's is my best bets. My only concern is with the way the GPU market seems to be in flux right now, when will their be a better card within the 250-300$ price range?
Yeeeep...
Take it from someone who's been on team red for the last 5ish years: I will pay premium to escape their awful drivers (RAGE fiasco was the last straw for me, personally) and get the vastly superior featureset (gsync, S/OGSSAA on driver level, shadowplay, physx, etc).
If the 780 dips to $530 I'll probably bite, tbqh. If it gets to $500 I'm offing my 5870 to whomever will take it and buying the 780 the next chance I get.
On the other hand the 780 is runs cooler and makes less noise. I reckon you can overclock the 780 past whatever an overclocked reference 290x can do for 1080p gaming. The 290x is a beast at 4k resolution though.
Haha, we're used to it.
AstroZombie
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Good point.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Would it be absurd to SLI 2 x GTX 780s on a 750 watt PSU?
Prophet Steve
Member
Not sure, the 290x can be overclocked quite well. But just will be extremely loud in the process.
I do agree with you, I forgot about the noise, temperature (although I'll assume AMD is confident with the 95 degrees celsius) and power consumption I believe too.
It can work, but what is more important is the quality of the PSU.
Nah, that shouldn't be an issue if it's a quality PSU (and you don't do extreme overclocking).
I really don't think you are supposed to run the reference 290x at 100% fan speed. If people are planning to put a different cooler on it, then it's indeed handsdown the faster card. I really think the average person should wait for non-reference 290x cards, or put a custom cooler on it themselves.
For the people gaming at extreme resolutions like 4k the 290x performs great as is though.
Based on what? The GTX780 is now competitively priced. The GTX770 is pretty close price wise to the R9 280x. The R9 290 can be pretty interesting though, but we don't have any real specifics on it.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Thank you both. I think it's Corsair. I assume that's not a terrible quality PSU.
cyberheater
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My next card will mostly likely be a GTX 660ti. nVidia have the best drivers and I've never had a problem with my nVidia cards.
Prophet Steve
Member
Uh no, extra software, better drivers, not everywhere the prices are the same. There can be plenty of reasons especially with the prices now closer to each other. Now I can much more easily recommend Nvidia since the difference in price is much smaller now.
I must say I do not know how powerful the 780 is when overclocked, but I consider the difference between the two to be quite high. And I know the fan speed is not supposed to be anywhere near 100%, but it makes it a bit difficult to compare since you have a bit off leeway.
Non-reference cards could probably make a big difference with how loud the thing already is.
[citation needed]
AstroZombie
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Even at 55% that thing is way too loud.
cripterion
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In France the Asus Gtx780 is the same price as the Xbone now.
I'm confused why this is cropping up repeatedly, the 770 prices seem in line or even lower than the R9 280x prices now, at least in the UK. The 760 was already in line with the 270x. Don't know about the 780 though, things get iffy in the super enthusiast.
Yeah I'm still pretty happy with that setup, it definitly still give good result to recent games.
I guess I just want to be able to go a little crazier when it comes to downsampling or things like that, and be able again to go in the option, max everythings, and still get 60 fps everytime I get a new game. And ShadowPlay...
But yeah I really do expect/hope Maxwell to be worth the wait.
I haven't upgraded my GPU since I got GTX 460 1GB at the start of 2011 which did pretty decent with BF3 @ 1080p.
I'm well overdue for a major upgrade.
I don't go beyond 1080p since I prefer to use my 42 inch 1080p set, so extreme resolutions are not going to be an issue for me. I haven't been with the red team since 2008 and I'm more likely to stick with Nvidia again. Hopefully by the time I build a new machine, the 780 will have had another price cut. I think even if Mantle offers anything better than a 10% improvement in framerates I'd still probably be swayed by Nvidia's software ecosystem and solid drivers. Though I'm certainly not ruling out the 290X.
It'll be interesting to see how things play over over the upcoming several months.
I'm well overdue for a major upgrade.
I don't go beyond 1080p since I prefer to use my 42 inch 1080p set, so extreme resolutions are not going to be an issue for me. I haven't been with the red team since 2008 and I'm more likely to stick with Nvidia again. Hopefully by the time I build a new machine, the 780 will have had another price cut. I think even if Mantle offers anything better than a 10% improvement in framerates I'd still probably be swayed by Nvidia's software ecosystem and solid drivers. Though I'm certainly not ruling out the 290X.
It'll be interesting to see how things play over over the upcoming several months.
Yeah.
SneakyStephan
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Wut
if you can get a 780 for the same price as a 290x it would be stupid to buy the latter, why would you gamble on amd eventually deciding to include downsampling support or for their drivers to keep improving?
Once they get their shit together , then things change, but until then the only reason to go amd would be price/performance
Good to see this happen.
AMDs drivers are not awful. They're equally as stable as Nvidia (and have had less issues of late), just less feature rich. You're likely having a bad experience with them as you're on a legacy card and haven't benefited from the new drivers.
Possibly...
Because not all Corsair's are good.
No it's not.
660 Ti is crap, avoid it. Much, much better off getting a 760 if you want to go Nvidia.
AMDs drivers are not awful. They're equally as stable as Nvidia (and have had less issues of late), just less feature rich. You're likely having a bad experience with them as you're on a legacy card and haven't benefited from the new drivers.
Possibly...
Because not all Corsair's are good.
No it's not.
660 Ti is crap, avoid it. Much, much better off getting a 760 if you want to go Nvidia.
So i'm guessing an OC'd i5 2500k would be ok for a 770?
Down to £465 with Scan http://www.scan.co.uk/products/3gb-...dr5-gpu-980mhz-boost-1033mhz-cores-2304-dport
Perfectly ok.
cyberheater
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What's wrong with the 660ti and why is the 760 better.
LabouredSubterfuge
Member
Hmmmmmm not sure how I'd be able to tell whether mine is not shite.
760 has more memory bandwidth and is clocked higher, so it's definitely the better card if they're priced similarly. There's nothing wrong with the 660Ti, per se.
660 Ti is effectively only a 1.5GB card, the final 512MB is pretty useless because of the memory bus. 760 doesn't have that issue and can make full use of the 2GB it has plus it's faster at everything and costs the same.
Tell me the model horse.
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I wish they'd slashed the price a bit more on the 770.
The only reason I leaning toward this card over an R9 280 card at this point is because of the possibility of me getting a g-synch monitor at some point.
The only reason I leaning toward this card over an R9 280 card at this point is because of the possibility of me getting a g-synch monitor at some point.
It sometimes boggles my mind how unfortunate some people are with their drivers (either brand). I loved my 8800 GTS because it had great performance considering its price, but later on I started getting so many driver crashes. Even after trying rolling back to older drivers, trying new ones, using driver sweeper and starting fresh. Nothing. I kept getting driver crashes in games and sometimes I even got BSODs.
At one point I got tired of it and went with an 6850 which again was a cheap card that was a decent upgrade and so far it worked near flawlessly. Does that make AMD drivers way better than Nvidia's? No, anecdotal evidence doesn't mean anything.
I know AMD/ATi had plenty of issues in the past and they're still not perfect, but they're trying to get everything sorted out.
cyberheater
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Thanks. I've now changed my statement. My next video card will be a GTX 760.
kharma45 said:
not a problem with 3 GB models, full bus speed there.
yeah even some benchmarks tend to favor the 660 Ti over the 760 for some strange reason, guess it's drivers. I've been rolling two very cheap 660 Ti's 3 GB in SLI and they eat every game @1080p 60fps, but I was looking for a "single" card solution, and now the 780 is mine
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