Battlefield 4 PC performance thread

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This is the place to discuss anything regarding the performance and specs of Battlefield 4 on PC.


PC system requirements
Minimum:
OS: 32-bit Vista SP2
CPU(AMD): 2,8 GHz Athlon X2
CPU(Intel): 2,4 GHz Core 2 Duo
RAM: 4 GB
HDD: 30 GB
GPU(AMD): Radeon 3870
GPU(Nvidia): GeForce 8800 GT
VRAM: 512 MB

Recommended:
OS: 64-bit Windows 8
CPU(AMD): 6-core
CPU(Intel): 4-core
RAM: 8 GB
HDD: 30 GB
GPU(AMD): Radeon 7870
GPU(Nvidia): GeForce GT660
VRAM: 3 GB​


Drivers

The new GeForce 331.65 WHQL driver is now available to download. An essential update for all GeForce GTX users, 331.65 WHQL is the Game Ready driver for Battlefield 4 and Call of Duty: Ghosts, and includes the Batman: Arkham Origins optimizations introduced alongside 331.58 WHQL last week.
http://www.geforce.com/whats-new/articles/nvidia-geforce-331-65-whql-drivers-released


The new Nvidia driver, 331.58, has an updated SLi profile for BF4:
http://www.geforce.com/drivers/results/68499

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So I had the beta but didn't end up downloading it. What was the consensus on the performance of quad-core Haswell CPUs/7970? Cheers.
 
I think this goes here. Waiting for a new AMD driver.

The new GeForce 331.58 WHQL driver is now available to download. An essential update for all GeForce GTX users, 331.58 WHQL is the Game Ready driver for Batman: Arkham Origins and Battlefield 4, ensuring your system attains peak performance in the two eagerly-anticipated titles.
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Corsair posted this article about how DRAM speed impacts the performance of the game, i call it bull**** but, after seeing how the beta was improved with the patches and some clearly special optimization for Windows 8.1, i think it might be kinda true at some point. We´ll see.

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Running at 1920x1200, or slightly above the most common resolution of 1920x1080, bumping our 32GB of Dominator Platinum from DDR3-1600 to its XMP speed of DDR3-2400 raised the average framerate a staggering 22.7% and the minimum framerate a still impressive 9.7%. Keeping in mind these framerates are both still well above the magical 60fps, nonetheless it stands to reason a user with less GPU horsepower might get a healthy amount of mileage out of faster memory.
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josecitoxnyo said:
Corsair posted this article about how DRAM speed impacts the performance of the game, i call it bull**** but, after seeing how the beta was improved with the patches and some clearly special optimization for Windows 8.1, i think it might be kinda true at some point. We´ll see.
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That's interesting, because memory bandwidth isn't a factor for most PC games. But if you need an OC'd i7-4770K and two OC'd GTX 780s to get that kind of performance then we're all hosed anyway.
 
I've pre-ordered already but I hope to all fuck that the new Nvidia drivers work some magic. I'm rocking a titan and I was getting frame drops to 15-20fps all the damn time. I can't remember exactly what my CPU is clocked at right now (around 4.2 I think) but I doubt that was the problem for such huge spikes. I don't mind turning eye candy off If I need to-but with my specs I don't think I should have to ...

..Anyway, my cry is over now and I just can;t wait for the damn game to come out! I think I clocked about 20ish hours in the beta and I'm right on board this train. Actually, since the beta I've missed C4 on recon more than I thought possible.

C4 Lyfe!
 
jns said:
I've pre-ordered already but I hope to all fuck that the new Nvidia drivers work some magic. I'm rocking a titan and I was getting frame drops to 15-20fps all the damn time. I can't remember exactly what my CPU is clocked at right now (around 4.2 I think) but I doubt that was the problem for such huge spikes. I don't mind turning eye candy off If I need to-but with my specs I don't think I should have to ...

..Anyway, my cry is over now and I just can;t wait for the damn game to come out! I think I clocked about 20ish hours in the beta and I'm right on board this train. Actually, since the beta I've missed C4 on recon more than I thought possible.

C4 Lyfe!
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It was a game issue, usually under Windows 7. Not an Nvidia issue.
 
jns said:
I've pre-ordered already but I hope to all fuck that the new Nvidia drivers work some magic. I'm rocking a titan and I was getting frame drops to 15-20fps all the damn time. I can't remember exactly what my CPU is clocked at right now (around 4.2 I think) but I doubt that was the problem for such huge spikes. I don't mind turning eye candy off If I need to-but with my specs I don't think I should have to ...

..Anyway, my cry is over now and I just can;t wait for the damn game to come out! I think I clocked about 20ish hours in the beta and I'm right on board this train. Actually, since the beta I've missed C4 on recon more than I thought possible.

C4 Lyfe!
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I had similar problems running on a 690 and 4.2ghz hex-core 980x on Windows 7.

Are you on 7? Some people were implying higher performance on 8.
 
Game clearly had a lot of optimization problems in the beta.
CPU usage was about the same between an empty server and a full server, if it really gets such a boost from higher RAM bandwidth the engine is doing some very strange things (just about nothing, even non game loads gets those kind of boosts from main RAM bandwidth) and to top it off the whole game does not look noticeably better than BF3 (other than the water).
 
I would be very happy if someone with somewhat similar configuration to my system can tell me what FPS they get with the game and what settings are playable?

Athlon II X4 640
8GB RAM
Radeon 7770
1440x900 resolution
 
hooijdonk17 said:
I would be very happy if someone with somewhat similar configuration to my system can tell me what FPS they get with the game and what settings are playable?

Athlon II X4 640
8GB RAM
Radeon 7770
1440x900 resolution
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If you buy the game through the Origin store, then you are entitled to claim a full refund provided it's within the first 24hrs of play. You can try before you buy, essentially.
Otherwise, you'll be waiting until release and someone with similar specs has played the game, then seen your post and bothered to reply.
 
I'm gonna hold on on those new Nvidia drivers. The 331.40 beta drivers actually had worse performance on my rig for some reason and I had to revert back to 320.49 which was much smoother. Will try to test them again in retail to see if I should finally update.
 
Some guys over at overclock.net did some testing with Intel's CPU's with HT (Hyper Threading) with results with HT on and off. Looks like those of us with i7's (Me =3770k@4.4ghz) made a wise choice in ignoring the slew of peeps saying it was a waste of money, yada, yada, yada and so on. ...just about everyone just 8 months to 12 months ago even to this day actually were saying getting a 3770k/4770k over a 3570k/4570k was/is a huge waste of money...my personal argument was "next gen" games "might" just make good use of those extra threads so i ignored all the hasty opinions and bought myself a 3770k 8 months ago...low and behold, seems if this trend continues the "extra threads" will indeed be worth that extra bit of cash....peep the info below....i am soooo happy i went with my own opinion instead of going by the he said/she said drama about the i5s vs i7s

From Overclockers.net - here is a direct link to this overlockers.net thread here http://www.overclock.net/t/1433904/...-with-ht-enabled-vs-disabled-on-battlefield-4

Now with some data:
PART 2 - Hyper threading vs non-hyper threading

This was quite simple to do and the reason I did it was because I was asked to try and see if those extra 4 threads made any difference.
To simply disable HT - I went into the BIOS and disabled HT on my I7 3770k - thus effectively rendering it an I5 3570k at heart - as pretty much the only difference between the two CPU's, those extra 4 threads.

NOTE: GPU before starting and within the game HT is ON: Huge dips is me ALT+TABing
Before:

Again, All the benchmarks here http://www.overclock.net/t/1433904/...-with-ht-enabled-vs-disabled-on-battlefield-4 and below are just a few samples of the OP's results at overclockers.net

With HT ENABLED:
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With HT DISABLED:
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WINDOWS 7 vs WINDOWS 8
Another nitpick of mine are all the Windows 8 haters..again..everyone saying Windows 8 was garbage for gaming,etc,etc even before next gen games started to come out...well look below..seems Windows 8 IS INDEED BETTER than Windows 7 in terms of newer upcoming games..and yet again i ignored all the blatant opinions on Windows 8 in which a TON of people were saying avoid it like a plague,etc...my gut feeling was telling me Windows 8 would more than likely benefit with next gen games..and from the testing thus far it will!....And again...soooo happy i went with my own opinion instead of going by the he said/she said drama about Win 8 being junk for gaming.
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Update..i added a bit more info on the Win7 vs Win8 debate below...

Sorry if it seems like double post..i am on my phone on commute to work...so its easier for me to just copy and paste bits of my previous reply..gotta fly, almost at work site


WINDOWS 7 vs WINDOWS 8
Another nitpick of mine are all the Windows 8 haters..again..everyone saying Windows 8 was garbage for gaming,etc,etc even before next gen games started to come out...well look below..seems Windows 8 IS INDEED BETTER than Windows 7 in terms of newer upcoming games..and yet again i ignored all the blatant opinions on Windows 8 in which a TON of people were saying avoid it like a plague,etc...my gut feeling was telling me Windows 8 would more than likely benefit with next gen games..and from the testing thus far it will!....And again...soooo happy i went with my own opinion instead of going by the he said/she said drama about Win 8 being junk for gaming.
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Another guy at anandtech forums with some results on Win7 vs Win8 on BF4

Link Here http://forums.anandtech.com/showthread.php?t=2346906

I find this absolutely astounding. Even if they manage to improve performance for Win 7, Win 8.1 should retain a significant advantage.

On a side note:
The GPU used was a GTX 780. So much for "only DX11.0". Apparently, the features of DX11.1 that Nvidia supports are enough and work perfectly in reducing CPU load.
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slapnuts said:
On a side note:
The GPU used was a GTX 780. So much for "only DX11.0". Apparently, the features of DX11.1 that Nvidia supports are enough and work perfectly in reducing CPU load.
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I know it says it includes a patch, but looking at the date I'm wonder if it has the patch that significantly improved beta performance on Windows 7? Right before I upgraded to Windows 8 (because of BF4), the patch gave me a healthy increase. Windows 8 did feel faster still, but the upgrade wasn't as huge as I was expecting from reports. I think the patch made a world of difference for W7 users.

EDIT: Looking back through our own threads, I don't believe that graphic reflects the W7 performance improving patch released on the 10th.
 
pestul said:
EDIT: Looking back through our own threads, I don't believe that graphic reflects the W7 performance improving patch released on the 10th.
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Which wouldn't be surprising at all because there is absolutely no reason for the disparity; I'm inclined to disbelieve it until some serious website runs this test.
 
Just because Im weird, and nervous by nature I have to ask. If I got good performance during the beta then I should expect the same performance in the acutal game, right? Specifically, Im asking if theres any way I good acutally have worse performance than I did in the beta
 
terrdactycalsrock said:
Just because Im weird, and nervous by nature I have to ask. If I got good performance during the beta then I should expect the same performance in the acutal game, right? Specifically, Im asking if theres any way I good acutally have worse performance than I did in the beta
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I would bet that performance will be the same or better. Nvidia has release newer drivers and beta was probably an older build.
 
hooijdonk17 said:
I would be very happy if someone with somewhat similar configuration to my system can tell me what FPS they get with the game and what settings are playable?

Athlon II X4 640
8GB RAM
Radeon 7770
1440x900 resolution
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My system:
X4 965
8 GB RAM
Radeon 6870 (1GB)
1440x900

The BF4 beta was a complete mess. The later patches did improve performance, but overall it was nearly unplayable. My framerates were all over the place. I have a 1080p display as well but it ran so shitty I tried tuning on my 1440x900. At 1440x900 it would average 45-50 but there would be dramatic drops down into the 20s. This made getting into any sort of ground combat impossible. That would usually occur if I'd turn around and look at the main part of the downtown area on Siege of Shanghai. I played mostly on the medium preset as I found it actually ran better on auto-medium than than low. Changing to lower resolutions never helped either. Since the drops are so dramatic and I know it's capable of holding 45+, I have hopes that retail will be improved.
 
FYI Windows 8/8.1 has better performance because DICE takes advantage DirectX 11.1 - which is only available on the Win 8.x OS due to Microsoft. This is NOT to say it will not perform great on Windows 7 or prior - just that Windows 8 has some clear advantages. I was a huge Windows 8 hater prior...I've moved to Windows 8 because I will do anything for Battlefield. So I figured I would continue to spread the message for those that care. :)

Proof for any of those that have an irrational hate for Windows 8 at all cost - images below and also simply look at the "Recommended" build in the System Requirements for the game - Windows 8 x64...

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slapnuts said:
WINDOWS 7 vs WINDOWS 8
Another nitpick of mine are all the Windows 8 haters..again..everyone saying Windows 8 was garbage for gaming,etc,etc even before next gen games started to come out...well look below..seems Windows 8 IS INDEED BETTER than Windows 7 in terms of newer upcoming games..and yet again i ignored all the blatant opinions on Windows 8 in which a TON of people were saying avoid it like a plague,etc...my gut feeling was telling me Windows 8 would more than likely benefit with next gen games..and from the testing thus far it will!....And again...soooo happy i went with my own opinion instead of going by the he said/she said drama about Win 8 being junk for gaming.
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What those graphs show is that overall Windows 8's framerate changes more.

Framerates drop to a lower level than windows 7, but also reach a higher level than windows 7.

Surely this just means more slowdown/tearing/stuttering as it fluctuates more on Windows 8?
 
EvB said:
What those graphs show is that overall Windows 8's framerate changes more.

Framerates drop to a lower level than windows 7, but also reach a higher level than windows 7.

Surely this just means more slowdown/tearing/stuttering as it fluctuates more on Windows 8?
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In my experience, Win8 is much smoother than Win7 for BF4...this was the beta, however. Either way, if you look at my post above, Win8 has clear advantages due to DX 11.1.
 
It doesn't matter how high it can get if you're capping your framerate at 60fps. But it does matter how low it drops.
 
I really, really, really don't want to install Windows 8. It's not that I wouldn't mind having it, it's that I hackintoshed my computer and will have to do an entire reinstall if I go to 8.1
 
suddenlyissoon said:
I really, really, really don't want to install Windows 8. It's not that I wouldn't mind having it, it's that I hackintoshed my computer and will have to do an entire reinstall if I go to 8.1
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can you use a bootmanager or can you buy a second small HDD to switch inbetween.
 
slapnuts said:
Some guys over at overclock.net did some testing with Intel's CPU's with HT (Hyper Threading) with results with HT on and off.
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The last performance patch was specifically targeted for Windows 7 and Six and Quad cores without HT. Were these benchmarks before or after that patch?
 
In reference do the tweet from the developer above. It almost seemed like mantle api was/is not being used yet. Is that true or I am misreading it?
 
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