spindashing
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...LOL.
This is glorious. I'll definitely have to try this out later on.
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...LOL.
This is glorious. I'll definitely have to try this out later on.
Deified Data
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Got challenged to a random double battle. He used 6 Pokemon but I only had 4 that were viable at the time, so it was 6 on 4. See how I did: GA9G-WWWW-WWW2-6P47
BudokaiMR2
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I just realized I never got around to posting my final E4 team like everyone else!
Jolteon basically rocked through 80% of it. Haha
Jolteon basically rocked through 80% of it. Haha
I refuse to use that due to how annoying it is. Looks like an Infilltrator or Taunt Pokemon is needed for all of the Rotom and Klefki used to set up stuff.
lmao
Question on Pokerus - if it has run it's course and can't be spread any more, will it still double EVs after I use a reset bag?
spindashing
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I've always wanted to use a Prankster Sableye but I never did in BW2.
Now that Klefki's here, I'll definitely have to try it out.
Now that Klefki's here, I'll definitely have to try it out.
Dandy Crocodile
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It works so well. I had tons of fun taking out megas with mine.
Starwolf_UK
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Everyone is doing it now so you have to keep withdrawing and re-offering to put yourself onto the top of the list.This Scyther thing doesn't work for meI'm trying to get a single Yveltal, nothing more, and after 36 hours still nothing
The market is really unsustainable and greedy people getting boxes full of legendaries does not help.
I'd give it another day, maybe before it has run its course...
Charlie0108
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Finished the regional Dex last night, as soon as Bank is released I'll have all 718
Yep, I avoided the "box full of legendaries" I'd rather more folks got something from it. I did get a spare of each for my wife though.
spindashing
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Thanks! I was trying to avoid any breeding but I guess I have to now
Once you start, you won't stop.
Finished iv breeding and ev training my first six pokemon: Goodra, Azumarill, Greninja, Blaziken, Aegislash, and Noivern.
Im gonna make a new Goodra though, because I went Bold and I believe Modest is the better option.
So far my favorite 3 Pokemon team combination is Greninja/Goodra/Aegislash.
Im gonna make a new Goodra though, because I went Bold and I believe Modest is the better option.
So far my favorite 3 Pokemon team combination is Greninja/Goodra/Aegislash.
Deified Data
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I really hope Klefki doesn't become as common as I think it will. I'm currently training one and his novelty value sort of fades if everyone's using him.
HawthorneKitty
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Same here; my gold trainer card is yummy.Finished the regional Dex last night, as soon as Bank is released I'll have all 718
*brofist*
I have the same
It has to be in a Luxury Ball. Has to have good IVs. And I HAVE to be the OT.
But it hasn't given me much of a hassle to be honest.
Yeah, I tend to use the same 3-4 Pokémon on online battles as well. Greninja and Togekiss are almost alway part of the team with Mawile and Goodra switching between the third spot. I really should use my Rotom-W more often
I must admit Greninja has surprised positively. So fast and strong. I LOVE U-Turning on enemies. Thank goodness for that 31 IV Attack stat
Another breeding done! As a result I have some Adamant Marills with differing 4 perfect IVs and Aqua Jet, a lot of different combinations (every single one has Sp Def though), every single one is female (yeah, that was annoying, it's 50% ratio and it felt like it's 12.5% male, 87.5% female), if anyone wants one PM me.
Darn well, I'll keep trying a little more.
Darn
well, I'll keep trying a little more.Yea, im using a Hasty Protean Greninja with six perfect ivs and its a beast. U turn is deadly, and ice beam is the Garchomp killer.
I have a lot of patience, so I'm not really bothered by how long it takes. So it makes me sad when I see some people give up so easily on breeding.
If this keeps up he'll be joining Aegislash in the gen 6 OU club.
Starwolf_UK
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I'll join the Scyther fad tomorrow...probably going for Scisor (so I can help others if the IVs sux*) or Ditto or something.
*-I should get myself a Rhyperior so I can do the same for Rhydon w/Protector.
*-I should get myself a Rhyperior so I can do the same for Rhydon w/Protector.
Mine was like that too. Guess game trades are rigged IVs and natures now.
flyinpiranha
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So, did some random battles yesterday online. I'm terrible and just used the guys I've been playing with (not sure what really works against what) but is the whole IV/EV thing going to really screw me over in the long run? Will I just have to get lucky against some noob like me who hasn't bred for specifics or whatnot?
MegaMelon
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EV's you need. IV's not so much. EV's have a huge impact whilst IV's are more down to the wire and situational.
Fury Sense
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What level is the Scyther? Maybe you should ask for Xerneas instead then trade that for Yveltal.This Scyther thing doesn't work for me
Starwolf_UK
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With good moveset (even using TMs) and strategies (knowing when to switch out or stay in) you can do fine but you will not do the absolute best. Also some things may be a complete disaster (-speed nature). I'd say natures are important, then EVs and finially IVs (at level 50 the difference between min and max is 15 points, 252 EVs in a stat nets you 31 points at level 50 and 63 points at level 100...so matters a lot more).
Given online auto-levels you once you get to postgame you're probably going to be doing some breeding sometime so you can you can make things work out then (hold items and friend safaris help loads).
EVs are really easy now with hordes and Pokerus. It is literally 10 battles, and 3 rounds of super training to go from nothing to a lazy but viable 252/252/6 spread (252 into stats that matter, 6 into one you want an extra point on).
Can't wait for a Klefki vs. Klefki battle. That will be... uh, well that'll be something, is what that will be!
Nah, you can do fine. I'm aiming for IVs just to stack the odds a little more in my favor, but ultimately it's a game of anticipation and, well, a bit of luck.
EVs are easy to get, though. If you're starting with a fresh Pokémon, might as well add them.
Yes in a sense. Face a Malamar and you'll be sorry though.
Yeah, Malamar also screws over King's Shield Aegislash in that respect. Contrary is such a cool ability.
Does Mega Kangaskhan use Double Team twice with one use?
flyinpiranha
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OK, so a good plan is to just have fun with the fights for now, beat the game, read up on EV training, choose the ones I want to train and go from there? How do I know the best ones to train up or is that down to what type of team I would want? Like glass cannons, or 'tanks'.
Honestly, I've never taken the battling this seriously as I didn't really have people to battle with but now myself, my fiance, and soon my 8 year old (once he saves his allowance) will all be playing, and I want to crush their spirits and make them cry in defeat.
EDIT: Thanks for the other answers, too. Looks like I'll finish the game and get some Friend Safari's and then read up a bit more. Unfortunately I have a terrible habit of min/max with games and I can already feel the itch. "ATT at 251? Why not 252?"
Fury Sense
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Added, trade w/ Ray
50. I actually changed it for Xerneas a couple hours ago since people in this thread mentioned getting tons of them but that didn't help
IVs (Individual Values) and EVs (Effort Values) are separate. A man in the Pokémon Center in Kiloude City (post-game) will tell you whether you have perfect IVs in any given stat category. He'll say those stats "can't be beat." IVs are set from the moment a Pokémon is caught or hatched, and cannot be changed. Their a number between 0 and 31 and determine stat growth. There's an IV for each stat category. 31 is perfect and ensures highest stat growth.
While you can't change them, you can eventually pass them on via breeding. A Pokémon holding Destiny Knot while breeding will ensure five IVs across the two parents will pass onto the child. So you keep hatching until you have a child that gets the good IVs from their parents. Then you breed that with another Pokémon that has the good IVs you're still missing, using Destiny Knot again to pass on five of the parents' IVs. Eventually, you'll get the good IVs you already have plus the ones you didn't.
To get parents with some good IVs as a starting point, the Friend Safari Dittos are excellent -- they each have at least two perfect IVs. Ditto can breed with anything and produce a child of the non-Ditto parent.
EVs, meanwhile are different and can be distributed freely by the player, up to 510 EVs total. You get EVs by Super Training (hit the R button to scroll to the Super Training screen), or by battling Pokémon, each Pokémon giving a certain EV point (one or two EV points, in one of the stat categories). The most efficient way is Horde battling, using Oddish's Sweet Scent to lure out Hordes and then OHKO everyone at once with moves like Surf or Earthquake. The trainee will receive the full EVs via Exp. Share. Equipping the trainee with a Power Item for the stat being raised increases the EVs received by 4 per Pokemon. Having the Pokerus condition ("infected" by putting the Pokémon next to a Pokémon with Pokerus) doubles the EVs received.
For every four EVs in a stat category, that Pokémon gains an extra point in that stat at lv. 100. Super Training stops you at 252 EVs per stat category, since 252 is divisible by 4 and there's no benefit beyond 252. Thus, if you keep doing the Attack minigame in Super Training until it says your Attack is maxed out, or if you keep doing Horde battles for Attack points until your Super Training graph says the same, your Pokémon will have an Attack stat about 63 points higher at lv. 100.
Since 510 total is the limit, and 252 is the most per stat category (where benefit is concerned), most people invest 252 in one category and 252 in another (by training in Super Training until it stops adding points in that category). Then the extra 6 points go in a third category, to add one extra point at lv. 100. Yeah, that means two EVs always go wasted.
You do this in conjunction with nature. Each nature (except the neutral ones) will make one stat grow more, and one stat grow less. So usually you look for a Pokémon with the nature that grows the stat you plan to use a lot. If I'm raising a Pokémon that will only use Special Attacks, but never use Physical Attacks, I'd use a Modest Pokémon (+ Sp. Attack, - Attack). Then I'd invest EVs into his Sp. Attack, most likely, to get the most power out of it.
This happened to me in a rating battle. The other player had the same moveset, but their Klefki was faster than mine so I ended up losing that fight. >.<
If only your Attack had been lower (for Foul Play)!
IVs and EVs are separate. A man in the Pokémon Center in Kiloude City (post-game) will tell you whether you have perfect IVs in any given stat category. He'll say those stats "can't be beat." IVs are set from the moment a Pokémon is caught or hatched, and cannot be changed. Their a number between 0 and 31 and determine stat growth. There's an IV for each stat category. 31 is perfect and ensures highest stat growth.
While you can't change them, you can eventually pass them on via breeding. A Pokémon holding Destiny Knot while breeding will ensure five IVs across the two parents will pass onto the child. So you keep hatching until you have a child that gets the good IVs from their parents. Then you breed that with another Pokémon that has the good IVs you're still missing, using Destiny Knot again to pass on five of the parents' IVs. Eventually, you'll get the good IVs you already have plus the ones you didn't.
EVs are different and can be distributed freely by the player, up to 510 EVs total. You get EVs by Super Training (hit the R button to scroll to the Super Training screen), or by battling Pokémon, each Pokémon giving a certain EV point. The most efficient way is Horde battling, using Oddish's Sweet Scent to lure them out and then OHKO everyone at once with moves like Surf or Earthquake. Equipping the trainee with a Power Item for the stat being raised increases the EVs received by 4 per Pokemon.
For every four EVs in a stat category, that Pokémon gains an extra point in that stat at lv. 100. Super Training stops you at 252 EVs per stat category since 252 is divisible by 4 and there's no benefit beyond 252. Thus, if you keep doing the Attack minigame in Super Training until it says your Attack is maxed out, or if you keep doing Horde battles for Attack points until your Super Training graph says the same, your Pokémon will have an Attack stat about 63 points higher at lv. 100.
Most people invest 252 in one category (by training in Super Training until it stops adding points in that category), and then 252 in another category, and then the remaining 6 points wherever (usually HP).
You do this in conjunction with nature. Each nature (except the neutral ones) will make one stat grow more, and one stat grow less. So usually you look for a Pokémon with the nature that grows the stat you plan to use a lot. If I'm raising a Pokémon that will only use Special Attacks, but never use Physical Attacks, I'd use a Modest Pokémon (+ Sp. Attack, - Attack). Then I'd invest EVs into his Sp. Attack, most likely, to get the most power out of it.
So--stupid question--when you do an online battle that forces all pokemon to level 50, are all EVs applied? Or is it really only at lv 100?
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