PS4 can't play MP3, Music Unlimited needed for background music [Up:Yoshida responds]
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Portugeezer
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We have games which disable screenshots on Vita. Is it really that strange? It was kind of expected.
No MP3 playback was not expected though.
LiquidMetal14
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Only if you want to go overboard with hyperbole.
That being said, I hope we get MP3 in the future on top of DLNA.
VV should add that to the TC or some kind of variant of.
Hooo boy. This thread.
What I said was in reference to DLNA support. I haven't heard anything in regards to MP3s, however, I wouldn't be shocked if they added it down the line. The priority seems to be gaming features before media ones for launch. Hopefully Yoshida or someone can comment on this soon.
What I said was in reference to DLNA support. I haven't heard anything in regards to MP3s, however, I wouldn't be shocked if they added it down the line. The priority seems to be gaming features before media ones for launch. Hopefully Yoshida or someone can comment on this soon.
BloodMoney
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THIS
hopefully!
OMG this. I rarely listen to in-game music plus I have spotify. So Fuck Music Unlimited.
I tweeted to @yosp about this, I think no MP3 support is serious bullshit, as is no DLNA support. I really hope they don't remove the ability to play video files, considering I use my PS3 a lot for that, and I don't have enough space to keep both in the same entertainment unit(gonna move my PS3 upstairs).
NothingStopsThisTrain
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Not hopefully!
Now THIS I fully agree with. For the longest time it seemed like the PS4 was just insanely well planned and timed. Now the curtain is pulling back a little bit (the firmware and now this FAQ) and it looks like Sony is doing their own little bit of scramble to get things ready (or not)
Not worried yet, though damn does Sony have a pretty spotty record when it comes to UI/OS work/upgrades.
SRTtoZ
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Good to know.
ChiliManiac
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Didn't Microsoft already say that you couldn't play MP3 files on the xbox one?
You keep using that phrase. I don't think it means what you think it does.
flyinpiranha
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Dude, broseph. Calm down man. You're having a meltdown over meltdowns. I understand this is serious console war business to you, it would have to be for you to wallow through 10 pages of shit you aren't interested in (way to take it for the team) but bro, pal, buddy. Pls understand that some people like their gaming system to keep the most rudimentary features when a new iteration comes out.
Bro, it's cool. You don't use it. You probably have a sick stereo with a sick metal collection and rock out hardcore with chicks and parties. Some of us nerds and whiney 12 year olds with girl feelings like to have custom soundtracks when playing racing games or even music playing while somebody else might be on the tablet or PC doing something.
Bro, you're way too tough to understand what nerds want. I suggest lifting bro, do a push up for every nerd having a 12 year old girly manbabie meltdown.
How would you expect people to react? To actual facts or to what Sony/MS implied without words?
Chaplain
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They only will look hilarious because those in charge of releasing this information didn't think how consumers would react. If they had people look over this type of information before releasing it, they would have realized that certain customers would be confused by the removal of features and adding a paywall to listen to music. Then in the announcement of the removal of these features they would have given explanations on why they were removed, and if there were plans to add them in the future. These type of mistakes are what MS did with the Xbox One. Sony should know by now things need to be clarified or there will be consumer backlash.
LiquidMetal14
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I would rather have the console working with games and some of the services than have things half assed at launch.
If you saw the strides the XMB and PS3 functionality made then that hindsight should be a sharp 20/20.
It's as if people think this is going to be the way these consoles are for the rest of their life span.
These are the kinds of reactions with make me shake my head.
Sony has handled almost everything right and is preparing for a complex launch yet we get this kind of reaction when one thing doesn't go the way everyone imagined in this perfect world.
GTP_Daverytimes
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They would be stupid not to, shoving Music Unlimited into our mouths is not the way to go.
Principate
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Hopefully, what I don't like about this is that they managed to sort out everything to do with music unlimited but decided to delay or remove actual MP3 support. It's just a very negative implied motive.
Robot Pants
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Yea I don't believe it either.
Don't go evil on us, Sony. We are giving you this gen on a silver platter. Don't ruin it....again.
I don't understand the emphaticness of the FAQ answers then. If these are features that will be worked on at a later date, simply saying "no, not supported" is the wrong approach. It leads to threads like this one.
It causes an uproar when simple features that you can currently do on PS3 received answers of "no, not supported" from the FAQ for your next generation console that should be a step up from your current console.
I'd be ok with that, i don't plan on buying one on launch anyway.
However i won't just assume that they will, until they at least say something about it.
Yep. They're "focusing on gaming first" yet managed to make their pay-to-play-music service work day 1. Convenient.
As someone with a growing family we've used DLNA streaming of MP3's a lot. The exclusion of both of those really makes the PS4 less appealing to me.
My PS3 died earlier this year, so I decided to wait and buy a PS4. The lackluster launch lineup caused me to cancel my PS4 preorder. Now I'm thinking of just buying another PS3.
My PS3 died earlier this year, so I decided to wait and buy a PS4. The lackluster launch lineup caused me to cancel my PS4 preorder. Now I'm thinking of just buying another PS3.
Goldenroad
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What about the people who have spent thousands of dollars on their music collection and don't want to have to subscribe to MU to listen to a bunch of albums that I already own physical copies of? Yeah, I've ripped a lot of that music to my computer for ease of access, but that is not piracy and as a supporter of Sony Music and various other record companies I feel completely ripped off by this move.
Between Watch_Dogs being postponed, a very weak first party launch lineup and now this...I think I may stick with my PS360 combo for the time being. I don't get why MS and Sony are so intent on taking one step forward and two steps back at every turn.
LiquidMetal14
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Agree there but maybe it's not a priority at first but you have to know they are going to patch things up.
XMB/PS3 in the first year was not that good in terms of functionality but look at how far we've come since.
Whose stupid fucking decision was this?
Herp de derp.
MP3 playback isn't some esoteric feature. It should be a default for every media device. If they do patch it in later that is good, but it is ridiculous that it won't be there at launch.
Herp de derp.
MP3 playback isn't some esoteric feature. It should be a default for every media device. If they do patch it in later that is good, but it is ridiculous that it won't be there at launch.
bigboss370
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this is all that need to be said really. these features should be coming post launch, all we need to do now is wait for comment from @yosp or someone else at sony.
EmptySpace
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external hdd is probably games-only.
oh, I agree mostly.. Though I still stand by my statement of Sony's spotty record. XBM saw some incredible improvements (PS3 since 2007), but at the same time there is shit that still exists (PSN Store, 200 friends and friend management, messaging/chatting, etc) as well as stupid shit that just went on forever (clock/power bug, random PSN disconnects, etc)
Like I said, I'm not worried. Just a realization that the launch wasn't/isn't as amazing and perfect as almost all of us believed. heh.
BloodMoney
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Yes... I like owning things.. fuck the cloud & all the digital "rights" nonsense that goes with it.
It'd be great if Yoshida could just indicate he acknowledges the issue, but looking at his Twitter right now, it doesn't seem like it ;-;
LiquidMetal14
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I agree with you all the way but as you have done for the most part, I don't react like I had a relative die and go over board.
That being said, go overboard on twitter in a civil matter with Yosp. Then maybe we might get a statement but at least we have some words from Kagari's source on it.
I agree with you and at least you have managed to be civil about it
There are a lot of corporate ballwashers about. Seriously, it's little shit like this that results in both consoles now having mandatory pay walls for online multiplayer. I complained when XBL Gold was rolled out as I didn't see the sense in paying for matchmaking and cross game invites (which should be a part of the system OS) so I can use the internet connection I already paid for and folks gobbled that shit up. When PSN Plus rolled out I just fucking knew that was Sony testing the water and conditioning folks for paying them a fee next gen since with the hacking scandal and how slow and limited some aspects of PSN were in comparison to XBL Gold they would need some massive balls to do it mid-generation.
Now here we are at the start of this generation and if you want to play online on either of the big two, you're paying a fee. Taking away media functionality that has been associated with Sony consoles since the PS1 so they can push some shitty subscription service is just one step closer to the precipice. I can't wait until next next gen when we have to buy minutes to use our consoles and be charged huge overages when we go over our quota or some similar bullshit. And I can't wait for the folks who will be on NeoGAF2040 saying stop complaining there is nothing wrong with this because their games are held hostage and we gamers are pretty much addicts.
Maybe I'm a cheap fuck, but if I have my own media stored on my PC then I'd like the option to use it similar to how I did with your last iteration of your console. What kind of media device doesn't support DLNA. I have a pen that supports that shit. Sony has never been strictly just a gaming device and if this turns out to be true, it's a step back in my eyes from what they've always done.
Now here we are at the start of this generation and if you want to play online on either of the big two, you're paying a fee. Taking away media functionality that has been associated with Sony consoles since the PS1 so they can push some shitty subscription service is just one step closer to the precipice. I can't wait until next next gen when we have to buy minutes to use our consoles and be charged huge overages when we go over our quota or some similar bullshit. And I can't wait for the folks who will be on NeoGAF2040 saying stop complaining there is nothing wrong with this because their games are held hostage and we gamers are pretty much addicts.
Maybe I'm a cheap fuck, but if I have my own media stored on my PC then I'd like the option to use it similar to how I did with your last iteration of your console. What kind of media device doesn't support DLNA. I have a pen that supports that shit. Sony has never been strictly just a gaming device and if this turns out to be true, it's a step back in my eyes from what they've always done.
you honestly don't think the guy writing "No MP3 support" didn't even for a second think about how consumers were going to react? Really?
Viruz
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Thank you for the clarification, but how hard is to implement MP3/AVI/MKV playback on a machine as powerfull as the PS4? If there's a delay that's crazy.
We are talking MP3s here, a harmless format from I understand, there's no excuse to remove it for security purpose.
I had a feeling this was coming when they posted:
It's obviously a way for them to sell their terrible MU service. Why is it terrible?
Here's an example... Search for The Beatles and you'll only find covers and interviews. Yes, terrible.
What about cool games like Beat Hazard Ultra. It relies on OUR music in order to play correctly.
All in all this is BS. We need a petition to change this. IMO it's far worse than anything Microsoft has pulled on it's fans.
Also, this is the VERY THING that motivates hackers to mess with your machine. Start taking away our basic functions and they will add them back + a whole lot more.
and then didn't answer a single question about MP3 playback.
It's obviously a way for them to sell their terrible MU service. Why is it terrible?
Here's an example... Search for The Beatles and you'll only find covers and interviews. Yes, terrible.
What about cool games like Beat Hazard Ultra. It relies on OUR music in order to play correctly.
All in all this is BS. We need a petition to change this. IMO it's far worse than anything Microsoft has pulled on it's fans.
Also, this is the VERY THING that motivates hackers to mess with your machine. Start taking away our basic functions and they will add them back + a whole lot more.
MP3s are one few things you can actually legally buy out there without DRM. It's awesome. And yet, we have these shenanigans occurring.
It's not surprising. MS have been getting beat up the last few days (and months really) over all of their fuck ups that when something negative comes out about Sony, people want to blow it up to the same level when it is nowhere near. Is Sony trying to push people into MU shitty? Damn right it is. Is this the deal-breaker people want it to be? It really isn't no matter how much whining happens.
Boss Man
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Yeah...the idea that this is just some thing that they didn't have time to get around to is pretty silly.
The lack of any audio playback (unless you subscribe to their shitty proprietary music service) is absolutely on purpose.
I understand DLNA could be coming but the answer was an emphatic no.
Sony founded DLNA and as far as I know still sits on the alliance. Just a weird way to get the information out.
Are they trying to start a new standard unrelated to DLNA?
I believe it will probably come in the future but what a weird way to answer an FAQ the company itself wrote. I'm sure all these answers were well thought out and not just thrown out there.
Sony founded DLNA and as far as I know still sits on the alliance. Just a weird way to get the information out.
Are they trying to start a new standard unrelated to DLNA?
I believe it will probably come in the future but what a weird way to answer an FAQ the company itself wrote. I'm sure all these answers were well thought out and not just thrown out there.
If he did, he has NO common sense, to allow it to be released.
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