Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

I believe we won't lose any characters this time around que, Sakurai has already gone on record saying he'll will apologize like a bull in a china shop if any characters are lost non?

With this information we can assume--non--DECLARE nobody is making the leave maman.

I hope so. I really do.
 
If it were up to the fans, it would be Tharja.

Except Tharja isn't a main character (Ex: Chrom, Lucina, MU) and unless the "support" system I was talking about actually made it into Smash then I wouldn't expect to see her except for trophy/sticker stuff. When I talk about a "fan-favorite" Fire Emblem character, I was referring to who is the most popular "Lord" style character in a respective game. For instance, Fire Emblem on the GBA had three different protagonists, but it was Lyn who got into Smash. (as an assist trophy, but I'm assuming she was also considered for a playable character)
 
I damn hope so. No reason why Smash 3DS should be gimped or create a cut roster.

One console is far more powerful than the other and they may see it more profitable at some point to sell two different version of the product separately than together. So they can optimize each version.

There are reasons.

Probably far more than I can think of. I would actually prefer it if they just made one for the console with way more stuff than handheld. You bought a handheld version of a game, you knew what you were getting into,
 
Well, considering what they're doing with WiiFit Trainer, Awakening's player Avatar wouldn't seem impossible now, since they'd be able to have both male and female versions without favoring one over the other necessarily (probably with the default white haired designs). You'd add a mixed sword and magic user who really doesn't resemble any of the FE characters already in the game.

For instance, Fire Emblem on the GBA had three different protagonists, but it was Lyn who got into Smash. (as an assist trophy, but I'm assuming she was also considered for a playable character)

Lyn also was the only FE7 lord that made it as a paid DLC character in Awakening.
 
I want the Avatar in SSB4. In a perfect world I'd be able to change between each Element via taunts. SSBB mods already made multiple movesets and Final Smashes possible, get on it Sakurai!
 
I want the Avatar in SSB4. In a perfect world I'd be able to change between each Element via taunts. SSBB mods already made multiple movesets and Final Smashes possible, get on it Sakurai!

Always thought that IP would have tons of potential in the hands of the right video game developer. And now it stars a character that caters to the mindsets of developers and gamers alike. A child monk with martial arts flair? Fuck that, brb gonna go punch or punch toward a few problems until they go away
 
Had a random thought, probably makes no sense.. But what if Chrom/Lucina happened. Being a mixture of Ice Climbers with the pair, with a Zelda/Shiek switching. :o
 
Had a random thought, probably makes no sense.. But what if Chrom/Lucina happened. Being a mixture of Ice Climbers with the pair, with a Zelda/Shiek switching. :o

People have mentioned that concept, but there's always the 3ds issue. We still haven't seen any pikmin there or double characters like the Ice Climbers. Chrom and Lucina likely would need to be more detailed than the Ice Climbers too...
 
Always thought that IP would have tons of potential in the hands of the right video game developer. And now it stars a character that caters to the mindsets of developers and gamers alike. A child monk with martial arts flair? Fuck that, brb gonna go punch or punch toward a few problems until they go away

http://fireemblem.wikia.com/wiki/Avatar_(Awakening)

Don't know what you are talking about :P
Actually I do, AWESOME series, awful vidya games :(
 
Had a random thought, probably makes no sense.. But what if Chrom/Lucina happened. Being a mixture of Ice Climbers with the pair, with a Zelda/Shiek switching. :o

That's what I've been hoping for day one and given their source game's pairing mechanic I'm pretty hopeful that that's actually what we're gonna get almost word for word. Nothing crazy about it and it would be a neat way to integrate YET MORE SWORD CHARACTERS while keeping shit fresh
 
I always thought about Mario power-ups as items (since we already have the mushrooms, fire flower and starman). Would be awesome if they manage to implement more power ups.

And the Metal Box!

Would be neat to get some more. Maybe a Raccoon Tail that automatically swipes at opponents who approach you from behind?
 
People have mentioned there, but there's always the 3ds issue. We still haven't seen any pikmin there or double characters like the Ice Climbers. Chrom and Lucina likely would need to be more detailed than the Ice Climbers too...

Well, Ice Climbers haven't even been shown yet. :P But with the Pikmin issue, we will eventually see them one day. Olimar works around the Pikmin, so they'll eventually show up.

That is a very wild idea!

It's just crazy enough to work!!!

Approvement!

I was also thinking on how they should switch out. Maybe whoever is in the back, comes out in front, doing a counter to protect the character in front. In line with the FE characters having counters.

But that would ruin a combo possibility of switching within a combo to continue it, or something. XP

Just ideas.
 
Given the context, I'm a fucking moron lolol

It's my most played 3DS game too :/

Bahaha, I hoped someone would step into that trap.
That being said,
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Well, Ice Climbers haven't even been shown yet. :P But with the Pikmin issue, we will eventually see them one day. Olimar works around the Pikmin, so they'll eventually show up.



Approvement!

I was also thinking on how they should switch out. Maybe whoever is in the back, comes out in front, doing a counter to protect the character in front. In line with the FE characters having counters.

But that would ruin a combo possibility of switching within a combo to continue it, or something. XP

Just ideas.

See, now whatever they do with Chrom and or Lucina, I'm gonna be disappointed if it's not this

Although these ideas are the opposite of random - they're definitely intuitive enough that I'm sure they've crossed Sakurai's mind
 
Well, Ice Climbers haven't even been shown yet. :P But with the Pikmin issue, we will eventually see them one day. Olimar works around the Pikmin, so they'll eventually show up.

Like I've mentioned before, I fear they might change the Pikmin to only appear in the 3ds version when Olimar attacks, rather than actually follow him around. I guess they don't want to do that, but the way Olimar's screenshot for the 3ds doesn't have any Pìkmin is kind of suspicious.
 
Like I've mentioned before, I fear they might change the Pikmin to only appear in the 3ds version when Olimar attacks, rather than actually follow him around. I guess they don't want to do that, but the way Olimar's screenshot for the 3ds doesn't have any Pìkmin is kind of suspicious.

That would be awfully confusing, tbh. The game is a year from now, so they're probably still working on the Pikmin.
 
People have mentioned that concept, but there's always the 3ds issue. We still haven't seen any pikmin there or double characters like the Ice Climbers. Chrom and Lucina likely would need to be more detailed than the Ice Climbers too...

It's because of this that I wish a 3DS version of this game wasn't in development simply because the 3DS hardware limitations are going to hold back ideas for characters that could be achieved in the Wii U version and is already causing problems for some of the veterans. (Sorry 3DS-only Smash fans but it is just how I feel)
 
Hmmm, how about a Propeller Block Hat? It could make you jump just stupid high. :p

Enough to suicide if you double jump carelessly from a high ledge.

edit: Eh I guess that's covered by the bunny hood.
 
I'm hoping for new Fire Emblem representatives, but no replacing! Marth definitely is not going to go, and I seriously hope Ike doesn't go either. The more the merrier, dammit!

Like I've mentioned before, I fear they might change the Pikmin to only appear in the 3ds version when Olimar attacks, rather than actually follow him around. I guess they don't want to do that, but the way Olimar's screenshot for the 3ds doesn't have any Pìkmin is kind of suspicious.

Yeah... there are no Pikmin in the 3DS screenshot, and all the Wii U screenshots only show a maximum of 3 Pikmin. If that ends up being final then... poor Olimar...
 
That's what I've been hoping for day one and given their source game's pairing mechanic I'm pretty hopeful that that's actually what we're gonna get almost word for word. Nothing crazy about it and it would be a neat way to integrate YET MORE SWORD CHARACTERS while keeping shit fresh

Hah. It would be pretty great, and would definitely bring in a whole bunch of new possibilities. I just hope Sakurai actually sees that as something that was important to FE:A, that he'd do that for Chrom/Lucina.

I mean, he clearly wants to make another pair character. Plusle & Minun, along with Diddy & Dixie.

If that happened...

Don't get grabbed.

I would imagine it'd be completely different. But most likely? Lol.

See, now whatever they do with Chrom and or Lucina, I'm gonna be disappointed if it's not this

Although these ideas are the opposite of random - they're definitely intuitive enough that I'm sure they've crossed Sakurai's mind

I'm so sorry! D:

Not random, but random in thought for me. Heh. :P But its a big possibility!

Like I've mentioned before, I fear they might change the Pikmin to only appear in the 3ds version when Olimar attacks, rather than actually follow him around. I guess they don't want to do that, but the way Olimar's screenshot for the 3ds doesn't have any Pìkmin is kind of suspicious.

I won't lie, it is very suspicious. But we can only hope, and give them more time with the 3DS to get things done correctly to make sure everything works out fine. I'm still very positive that we will get the Olimar we know.
 
It's because of this that I wish a 3DS version of this game wasn't in development simply because the 3DS hardware limitations are going to hold back ideas for characters that could be achieved in the Wii U version and is already causing problems for some of the veterans. (Sorry 3DS-only Smash fans but it is just how I feel)
As cool of an idea it is, I just can't imagine Smash without the C-stick
 
Hah. It would be pretty great, and would definitely bring in a whole bunch of new possibilities. I just hope Sakurai actually sees that as something that was important to FE:A, that he'd do that for Chrom/Lucina.

I mean, he clearly wants to make another pair character. Plusle & Minun, along with Diddy & Dixie.
Don't forget the issues with the 3DS's CPU. He already mentioned a problem with the Ice Climbers on the 3DS.
 
As cool of an idea it is, I just can't imagine Smash without the C-stick

I'm getting both, but this is true. The C-stick allows for so much more (especially as Marth), and it's going to be so strange and limiting playing without it.

Because of that Smash 3DS reminds me of 64 in controls. I'm...not sure how well Smash Wii U will play, but at least it has a second analogue that doesn't require a peripheral so I should adapt fine (I wonder if the Circle Pad Pro will act as a C-stick?).
 
Don't forget the issues with the 3DS's CPU. He already mentioned a problem with the Ice Climbers on the 3DS.

Oh, I haven't forgotten at all. But didn't he just mention them as an example? Since the characters aren't in the game yet.

Because of that Smash 3DS reminds me of 64 in controls. I'm...not sure how well Smash Wii U will play, but at least it has a second analogue that doesn't require a peripheral so I should adapt fine (I wonder if the Circle Pad Pro will act as a C-stick?).

I would think that would be an option to have for the 3DS. Hopefully it turns out to be true for the 3DS players.
 
I'd actually be pretty mad if they can't work around putting Ice Climbers back in since if they aren't eligible for one version then they aren't for both. Unless Sakurai takes back his statement that there will be no exclusive characters depending on the platform.
 
What exactly? What can be done with the c-stick, that couldn't be done without it?

It gives me more options.

Without the c-stick, I always end up halting and losing momentum the second I input a retreating forward aerial/advancing back aerial. The c-stick won't affect that at all. I will always keep momentum and when playing Marth, Wolf, Pit or even Luigi I find it all vital to their play style.

It also leaves no chance of accidentally charging a Smash Attack (which only wastes time).

Smash directional influence is also extremely helpful, and the C-stick can be used to greatly help that.

Plus, it can be used for advanced techniques, like DACUS, for example.
 
I'm really excited to see the Ice Climbers return. Never really played them all that much but their shenanigans at this year's EVO were hype as hell and they're really cute as well.
 
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