I don't think he said that. He just thinks that a controversy about that will take the focus away from the game design and AI aspects. Maybe it won't. But maybe he's coming from the point that developers may think about choosing one or another. Again, PC proves that you can have both and with Call of Duty and Battlefield on the PS4 being 1080/60 fps, it's an even better comparison, but for me, it just sounded like he's more interested in discussing the game design aspects. If you see his reviews on Rev3, you'll notice that he almost rarely (or never, can't remember now) details technical aspects. It's not his focus.
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I don't think he said that. He just thinks that a controversy about that will take the focus away from the game design and AI aspects. Maybe it won't. But maybe he's coming from the point that developers may think about choosing one or another. Again, PC proves that you can have both and with Call of Duty and Battlefield on the PS4 being 1080/60 fps, it's an even better comparison, but for me, it just sounded like he's more interested in discussing the game design aspects. If you see his reviews on Rev3, you'll notice that he almost rarely (or never, can't remember now) details technical aspects. It's not his focus.
You don't know much about them do you? Their reviews were incredibly professional despite partying with movie stars, despite being friends with many hollywood producers, directors and actors.
It's not an argument, I asked a question...?
And video games are different than all those thing you've mentioned. Other graphical decisions are in play here.
The liberal media elites would have you believe 1080p is the only resolution that you can play games at, but that's not true. There's many resolutions available to the free market, and we don't need gamers from New York or California telling us that 720p isn't good enough.
Colonel Nasty
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But it was still inferior. It only matters when the gap is larger? Some Xbox one games ran in HD I don't remember people picking up Xbox's because of it. Is it a reason to pick one console over another? Sure. But why is it such a big deal to people not even buying that version?
baphomet
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And professional being exactly why they are nothing like Justin Mcelroy.
but thats the whole point of the "scandal". what has ps4 traded off for 1080p compared to xbox one 720p? They are the same game, one just looks and in some cases plays better(less framerate drops).
digoutyoursoul
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Weaker multiplat performance did not stop certain PS3 versions selling did it? People have other factors like system preference, friends, trophies/achievements and the controller. PS3 did alright and a library of great games, sure it's more powerful than 360 but the result was the same on a lot of occasions, weaker multiplat performance and yet folks still bought it. It's obviously not the deciding factor, so why is it this time for a lot of people?
Mushroomer25
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If "all gamers" wanted 1080p/60fps so much that it drove their purchasing decisions, consoles would have ceased to exist somewhere around 2010. But here we are.Here's what's not getting through:
1080p/60fps is the standard the GAMERS WANT.
Doesn't matter what the media or publishers or Sony/Microsoft want.
It's what the CUSTOMERS WANT.
It's 2013. 1080p/60fps should ALREADY BE STANDARD.
It does matter because it's more immersive and immersion is just as important to gameplay as art and style and story and features are.
Most people do not care about this. Sure, one being "more powerful" sounds better, but since most games are going to be developed cross-platform - it's going to rarely come up. For the average consumer, games, atmosphere (who's playing on what), and user experience will always win the fight. And frankly, Microsoft's winning 2 out of three on those fights. (Though the $100 price difference will probably be the biggest factor of choice. PS4's still going to win in holiday sales.)
1080p and 60FPS are just a marketing buzzwords now? Lol fuck off
It's really sad seeing 'game journalists' doing damage control like this just because one console is under-powered.
Absolutely, but we can have good gameplay and good graphics y'know?
It's really sad seeing 'game journalists' doing damage control like this just because one console is under-powered.
Absolutely, but we can have good gameplay and good graphics y'know?
Did Hollywood studios pay for them to see their movies and promise more Ads if they gave the film a good review?
Messofanego
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Since we live in the age of no accountability, not going to happen.
and if you can have the same gameplay and better graphics which would you take.
Coolbgdog12
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The past 7 to 8 years performance and resolution mattered a lot when it came to the PS3 not being up to snuff pertaining to the multiplatform releases. Now all of a sudden the tables are turned and gamers are told there isn't much of a difference between the two HD resolutions, sit farther away, games are what matters, etc. Like come on stop apologizing for fukks sake. The same games on two consoles running considerably better on one of them in which one of them is cheaper shouldn't be something you just downplay.
SHADES
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I like Sessler but would he prefer it if we watched his vids in poor quality or got the best visual representation possible to make up our own minds, I doubt he'd actually subscribe to 480p over 720p over 1080p etc etc.
Obviously gameplay is the core for any game but we view these with our eyes so the best visual representation is paramount when producing your game! Otherwise why would dev's even attempt months of painstaking work for no other reason than to make their game look awesome?
This is just another example of the cinemablend call out & those media/journo types subscribing to 1080p MEH should be ashamed IMO.
Sess, sort it son.
Actually the prat acknowledges it himself of the uproar 7 years ago when PS3 didn't quite live up to 1080p standards so why now after 7 years & X amount of technology advancements does this become a non issue? It should actually be more relevant now than before FFS?
Go home Sess, you're exhausted! Hue hue
Obviously gameplay is the core for any game but we view these with our eyes so the best visual representation is paramount when producing your game! Otherwise why would dev's even attempt months of painstaking work for no other reason than to make their game look awesome?
This is just another example of the cinemablend call out & those media/journo types subscribing to 1080p MEH should be ashamed IMO.
Sess, sort it son.
Actually the prat acknowledges it himself of the uproar 7 years ago when PS3 didn't quite live up to 1080p standards so why now after 7 years & X amount of technology advancements does this become a non issue? It should actually be more relevant now than before FFS?
Go home Sess, you're exhausted! Hue hue
How about gameplay AND graphics.
Well yeah, that would mean the end of his career.
plagiarize
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60 fps makes platformers better. as does HD and widescreen resolutions.
I don't remember people bemoaning Nintendo for greatly increasing the resolution with all stars.
how would this not be better in HD?
I suppose when Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Wererabbit came out, you were all up in arms about it not being in SD anymore. Clay animation is absolutely something where the charm of it, are the imperfections, and HD makes the fingerprints, etc, look clearer.
Andronicus
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some of the things coming out of his mouth are cringe worthy. Excusatory
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Krusenstern
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And another journalist clown who downplays the technical disparity. What a joke.
So better crawl into someone's ass to secure their support. People like Sessler have a miserable job I must say.
So better crawl into someone's ass to secure their support. People like Sessler have a miserable job I must say.
And I agree with you. Was just explaining that not all games should be 1080p/60fps, even though it would be preferable.
Did the guy in your gif get paid for his review by Bethesda? I'm sure you have the proof. Does Entertainment Weekly consistently take money week in and week out from nearly every single TV and movie studio that they review movies and TV shows for? You bet they do.
Chuck Norris
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I've noticed the same things as you. The oddest thing I find is how there seems to be a flood of media people and even forum users (specifically new intakes of juniors around here) who seem to start using the same colloquialisms and arguments at the same time. A few weeks back all the journalists started discussing "balance", Xbox One was "balanced" and the word seemed to be popping up everywhere in pro-Xbox articles. I've seen "pixel counting fanboy" being used a number of times. This week's favourite wording seems to be about "upressed 1080p", trying to create confusion over Xbox One's 1080p output. This is coming from MS people if you follow them on Twitter, and the media seem to pick up on these lines and run with them.
I guess the interesting thing is how close external media is in replicating the internal language being used by corporate Microsoft.
exactly. Its like those commercials i see on tv about and being better than or. people keep forgetting that ps4 has show to do both compared to xbox one so far.
Didn't COD3 run in 60fps on the 360 and 30 fps on the PS3?
Edit: Not a resolution difference, but still a very huge difference.
I would take both of course. But I'm not buying a ps4 just so I can play COD at 1080p. I'm buying an Xbox for DR3, Ryse, KI, Titanfall and Halo. These games are what interest me, not resolution.
IHaveCandy
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Hey Sessler, people are seeing that one console is more capable than another at a cheaper price and are thinking "Well I am probably only going to get one, so I'll get the one that is cheaper and more capable.". It's not that hard. And yes, you may not care about resolution, but others do. And you know that extra horsepower that allows for the higher resolution? Well that's what also would power your ideal advanced AI and animation as well.
This is exactly how I feel
I remember a lot of people shitting on PS3 multiplay games because it ran/looked better on 360. Now, now it just doesn't matter.
The worst part is that the differences between the games shown so far is bigger on PS4/One vs PS3/360
60 fps makes platformers better. as does HD and widescreen resolutions.
I don't remember people bemoaning Nintendo for greatly increasing the resolution with all stars.
how would this not be better in HD?
I suppose when Wallace and Gromit: Curse of the Wererabbit came out, you were all up in arms about it not being in SD anymore. Clay animation is absolutely something where the charm of it, are the imperfections, and HD makes the fingerprints, etc, look clearer.
Well, my joke is that Mario 1 was at the time, was groundbreaking and just as important, as a game that pushed the graphical boundaries of what people thought the NES/Famicom could do.
Yeah he sure was. He said there is a difference but it's so small you shouldn't change your console of choice because of it.
Why are you surprise that it does matter more , when the difference is exponentially more?
we are in core gaming discussion board. With start of next gen we are all interested in what new trend be in next gen. Well, it seems the biggest 180 is actually how it's now playstation with absolutely better performing MP titles which are most of the games on system.
Netherscourge
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It is exactly the same. You are paying more for less. Why pay more?
SniperHunter
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No. Adam is a gamer. He is just clueless about tech
TyphoonStruggle
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AI is not limited by computational power. It's limited because it's really damn hard to make AI.
He got a freebie from Bethesda that's for sure and I wouldn't doubt that because of that his score for the game would be excellent no matter what. EW is basically the IGN of the movie industry I'll never claim that they have some sort of credibility.
These two things are not mutually exclusive.
TimeEffect
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I know there are people that say resolution matters, but it seems to me that people who are OK with the XOne seem to think that this is just an issue of cross-gen development that will get sorted out within 6 months.
So, is that true or what? Is this something that will blow over/improve? I can't imagine games continuing to be lower resolution on XBox One a year or two from now, and I cant imagine people defending it then
So, is that true or what? Is this something that will blow over/improve? I can't imagine games continuing to be lower resolution on XBox One a year or two from now, and I cant imagine people defending it then
digoutyoursoul
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To say they were getting shit on many on here and in general bought them no problem
and that is a great reason to buy a console right there. no arguements going to come from me on that.
I just think that no one should downplay the resolution advantage that ps4 has in the multiplats that we know about so far, especially when it also has a framerate advantage as well.
Quadraphonic
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He's not clueless. Every one of his rants lately have been towards lessening criticisms towards the Xbox.
That's not clueless, that's malicious.
SolidSnakex
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*cringe* I had forgotten about that......
Also, what's the point of upgrading to next-gen if visuals and resolution don't improve?
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