Adam Sessler's: On Xbox One and PS4's Resolutiongate, and Day One Patches

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Didn't this Asshole say he was gonna quit the industry on at least two separate occasions? After today I'm kind of hoping he goes through with it.
 
sleeprockss said:
I honestly don't know.
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A few months ago Sessler said that 1080p is the least we should expect from new consoles and games displaying in 1080p was just a sign developers were doing their fucking jobs.

Then it was revealed that the two biggest multiplatform titles will only run at 720p on the Xbone, but will run at 900p and 1080p on the cheaper PS4.

Sessler now says that resolution is unimportant.
 
Sorry, watched the proper video now.

It's still in line with what he was saying last year. Last year, he was saying "yeah, they better be 1080p/60fps...but that's not really what this is about. It's about the games". That's still what he's saying here, despite 1080p/60fps apparently not being the standard for either Sony or Microsoft. Forget that he said 1080p and 60fps...all he's saying in both videos is that graphics are not where games need to innovate this generation.
 
"Games are what matter!"

Yeah but it's the same games, they just looks like shit on the Xbone compared to the PS4, which is also happens to be cheaper as well.

How the hell can people not understand this?

Journalists, LOL. Corporate mouth pieces.
 
Curufinwe said:
You like the bit where he can't even bring himself to say 720p when just a few months ago he insisted that 1080p was the bare minimum we should expect from the new consoles?
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Fuck, at the end of the video he admits he can't tell the difference between 720p and 1080p..

Maybe his eyes are going bad, along with the hair falling out, he's just a crotchety old man.
 
peterb0y said:
This conspiracy nonsense is so absurd.

He's editorializing. Patrick Klepeck and Brad from GB said the same thing. Opinions.

Sites like DF will bear out the hard comparisons-cuz, well that's their job. If there are stark differences you'll see that in reviews.
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Where did Patrick and Brad say it? Just curious.
 
Is "better AI" really something to even hope for in next-gen considering how incredibly hard Elizabeth was supposed to be to design? I don't know how feasible making good AI is really going to be in the near future regardless of hardware power.
 
SwiftDeath said:
I've just had a thought

Sessler, if you were going to see a new release movie and the IMAX showing of a movie was less than the regular showing of the same movie would that matter?

Same movie, same charecters, same story but better image quality, better sound

Pretty sure you'd go for the IMAX showing at a cheaper price 100% of the time
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The PS4 isn't a fucking IMAX. Frankly, the comparison is closer to seeing a movie on film vs digital projection. In that most people can't tell the fucking difference. Sure - if you're educated and want the best experience - go to the digital theater. But it's not the end-all be-all.
 
so sick of all this shit the gaming press has said the past week. yes, there will be people who will be paying the same $60 and get the graphically inferior version, so instead of helping them make an informed decision so they won't regret it, instead let's pretend we're all blind and make a copout of a statement about "it's the games that matter."

where were these journalists who went gaga over the division last e3 because of its graphics despite the gameplay looking as generic as every military shooter there is?
 
Mushroomer25 said:
Both the PS3 and the 360 have been marked down at different times for being an inferior version. The 360 for usually for having worse hardware, the PS3 for usually being a pain in the ass to develop for.
There is no grand anti-Playstation conspiracy.
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so when those negatives that each where BLASTED for are for the same console..instant rationality? "it's no big deal."
 
daman824 said:
I don't really see a problem. If anything, he's saying that graphics are going to be better on the xb1 and ps4. But that's not something to be impressed about. That's not that big of a deal. The big deal is going to be what the power difference between generations actually allows. Better AI, bigger worlds, more motion capture, more players. 720p vs 1080p is a large resolution difference objectively. But that's not what developers and gamers should be focusing on when moving to next gen.

And in a way I agree with him. I care a lot more about the player increase to 64 in bf4 than I do about the resolution increase. When the next fallout game comes out I'll be more impressed by better animations, larger environments, and less loading screens when going from indoor to outdoor than I'll be about resolutions. And when I play the witcher 3 next year, resolution will be the last thing on my mind.
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He literally says "better be 60FPS at 1080p". He wanted everything you listed AND said "BETTER BE".
 
I'm not sure where the hate for sessler is coming from. While I don't agree with him on this video that resolution doesn't matter because it certainly does, he doesn't deserve to be vilified as some MS shill. I've been following him for 10 years and he is almost always spot on and on our (the gamers ) side. There is a way to disagree with him and not attack his credibility for his statements.
 
UltraGunner said:
Didn't this Asshole say he was gonna quit the industry on at least two separate occasions? After today I'm kind of hoping he goes through with it.
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Well, his rep is already shot.
He should just get a Microsoft PR job or leave at this point.
For what it's worth I think he'd do a better job than Larry with that gig.
 
Mushroomer25 said:
Both the PS3 and the 360 have been marked down at different times for being an inferior version. The 360 for usually for having worse hardware, the PS3 for usually being a pain in the ass to develop for.
There is no grand anti-Playstation conspiracy.
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You're right. There isn't. But there is a Pro-Microsoft attitude in some cases.
These people are apologizing for Microsoft. Whether that is by their own free will or by moneyhats. The reason doesn't matter.

As a CONSUMER we should demand the best products and compare them to find which is the best. People have a right to know this stuff if they're going to spend hundreds of dollars on these consoles. No one wants to feel like they rode the wrong train.
 
Tripon said:
In this case, I would like to know why Sessler's opinion changed over the last 4 months.
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He believed there was the secret sauce that would make the Xbox One run at 1080p. The guy has been in MS's pocket since the debut, saying shit like "The PS4 could have the DRM, too, just wait and see..."
 
Not to burst people's bubble, but Sessler really doesn't give much of a shit on the technical side of games. Just watch the last Address the Sess, where anything technical had to be handled by TB.

I get what he's saying, and I agree. But I can't agree with with that resolutions and performance don't matter. I'll hold him to the late 2014 concession though. If things don't change from what we've seen thus far in the power gap utilization between the two systems, than the objective standing he's been trying to do needs to be dropped.

I don't know, I think we're getting way too eager to witch hunt when the past few months he's been rather pro-Sony and just came off of a live stream nerding out over a Sony exclusive.
 
mujun said:
A lot of people seem to be equating, "not condemning MS" with "being a shill" at the moment, especially with this point.
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Man, I'd hardly call him a shill for what he's saying, but he is being condescending and disingenuous. Just a few months ago he said that the new consoles need to be 1080p standard, and he now he's acting like the resolution difference is not a big deal. Yes some people are overreacting about the resolution differences, but why are so many writers downplaying it.

Instead of saying "PS4 is 900p and XB1 is 720p, but nobody will be able to tell the difference anyway. Besides the XB1 will upscale it 1080, so they're both 1080p.", why don't they just say "Ps4 is 900p, XB1 is 720p."? Why do they have to insert opinion into an objective statement?

G_Berry said:
You pretty much nailed it.
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Yeah, that's it.
 
UberTag said:
Well, his rep is already shot.
He should just get a Microsoft PR job or leave at this point.
For what it's worth I think he'd do a better job than Larry with that gig.
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I still liked him until he sat with a straight face all summer long pushing Shark Week for Discovery Channel during every show about gaming.
 
BruiserBear said:
Seriously. Is it really that complicated? Major Nelson is not going to publicly pat Sessler on the back for a video that is basically a defense of the XB1's shortcomings. This was the next best thing.
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This is my thought on it. He wanted to retweet it in a subtle way. He really liked the video or else he would have kept quiet.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Sorry, watched the proper video now.

It's still in line with what he was saying last year. Last year, he was saying "yeah, they better be 1080p/60fps...but that's not really what this is about. It's about the games". That's still what he's saying here, despite 1080p/60fps apparently not being the standard for either Sony or Microsoft.
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Yes, but quoting out of context is so much more fun -_-'...
 
x-Lundz-x said:
I'm not sure where the hate for sessler is coming from. While I don't agree with him on this video that resolution doesn't matter because it certainly does, he doesn't deserve to be vilified as some MS shill. I've been following him for 10 years and he is almost always spot on and on our (the gamers ) side. There is a way to disagree with him and not attack his credibility for his statements.
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I don't think he's a shill, but he lost a lot of credibility with his E3 coverage that made phony price comparisons and warned us not to believe Sony about their DRM plans.
 
Mugatu said:
I still liked him until he sat with a straight face all summer long pushing Shark Week for Discovery Channel during every show about gaming.
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You know that they are owned by Discovery Channel, right? I think all the web channels under them were doing that.
 
ArkkAngel007 said:
Not to burst people's bubble, but Sessler really doesn't give much of a shit on the technical side of games. Just watch the last Address the Sess, where anything technical had to be handled by TB.

I get what he's saying, and I agree. But I can't agree with with that resolutions and performance don't matter. I'll hold him to the late 2014 concession though. If things don't change from what we've seen thus far in the power gap utilization between the two systems, than the objective standing he's been trying to do needs to be dropped.

I don't know, I think we're getting way too eager to witch hunt when the past few months he's been rather pro-Sony and just came off of a live stream nerding out over a Sony exclusive.
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He might not care, but he sure expected the consoles to play 1080p 60fps naturally. They had better darn well done so according to him. Watch the video posted all over the thread.
 
NoirVisage said:
so when those negatives that each where BLASTED for are for the same console..instant rationality? "it's no big deal."
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Think about this.
In reviews, when there is a difference in experience so intense that it warrants changing a score - it's usually less than half a point. Most are usally .1-.2 IIRC. That's how much reviewers think it matters. It usually does not even resonate on a 5 point scale. That's how much influence they think it has on your experience.

So, when it comes time to review the games - I expect ONE versions to get docked a tenth of a point or so. But with so many other things going on, it doesn't make sense to start screaming about now.
 
And why does he even bring up Sony at all in that video...
"Due to publishers like EA, and even Microsoft and Sony...."

Sony hit 1080p no problem on the PS4. It's not a concern.
 
TheExodu5 said:
Sorry, watched the proper video now.

It's still in line with what he was saying last year. Last year, he was saying "yeah, they better be 1080p/60fps...but that's not really what this is about. It's about the games". That's still what he's saying here, despite 1080p/60fps apparently not being the standard for either Sony or Microsoft. Forget that he said 1080p and 60fps...all he's saying in both videos is that graphics are not where games need to innovate this generation.
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Bravo dude
 
EmptySpace said:
so sick of all this shit the gaming press has said the past week. yes, there will be people who will be paying the same $60 and get the graphically inferior version, so instead of helping them make an informed decision so they won't regret it, instead let's pretend we're all blind and make a copout of a statement about "it's the games that matter."
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How is it a copout statement? Listen, for multiplatforms, yes the PS4 will have the graphically superior version. That is a selling point in the PS4's favor and no one is disagreeing with that. But, in the end, the games are always what matters, and exclusives will be a major selling point. That has been proven time and time again, and I don't know why people are so adamant about turning a (trivial to many) performance advantage into such a major selling point that it should overrule any other aspect of the system.
 
Tripon said:
So, after I watched today's Sessler's Something, I thought the whole argument was odd, since I remember Adam Sessler's pretty much arguing that his expectation were always 1080p/60 for these two new consoles, and that they needed to something more.

So I looked up the video from his panel he did last June for this year's Screw Attack Gaming Convention, and well....

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=55mJl_zKAu0

Certainly, Adam Sessler has always said that games needs to innovate and show us(the consumers and the press) what a next gen concept is, but he certainly expected both the XBox One, and PS4 to be 1080p/60.

So now that we have confirmation that one system is clearly having issues with it, what changed in Sessler's expectations?
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Sakura said:
What the hell is a resolutiongate? I must be out of the loop.
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The ONE is running most games at sub-1080p, the PS4 is running almost all of them at 1080p. This is clearly the most important issue when purchasing a new console, and the fact it is not the top story of every gaming journalism website is certifiable proof that they are all in Microsoft's pocket.
 
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