EMINEM - MMLP2 |OT| They Call Me Slim Shady (I'm Back?)

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Wanted to give it a few more listens before I gave it a grade. It's a hard album to really get it a grasp on, because its all over the place in theme, sound, and ultimately quality. Other than Encore, this may be the most inconsistent album Em's put out (the first three were consistently good, Relapse is either consistently decent or terrible depending on how you feel about the accent, Recovery is consistently meh).

The highs are really high (Brainless and Bad Guy are among the best tracks he's put out, definitely since the hiatus) while the lows are really fucking low (i.e. Stronger Than I Was)

Loved
Bad Guy
Rhyme or Reason
Brainless
Love Game

Liked
So Far
Headlights
Legacy
Evil Twin
So Much Better

Indifferent/Slighly Disliked
Asshole
Rap God


Disliked
The Monster
Survival

Hated
Berzerk

Offended by its Presence on this Album
Stronger Than I Was

Overall though, I'd give the standard album a 6.5-7/10. It's better than his last three albums, but classic it is not.

MMLP>TES>SSLP>>MMLP2>Relapse>Recovery>>Encore

I'll probably give the standard album one more listen as is, but after that, I'm taking all of the singles except for Rap God as well as Stronger Than I Was off and replacing them with the 5 bonus tracks. That takes the album easily to a 8-8.5/10 record for me.
 
I know I was saying it was just ok, but I'm kinda enjoying this right now. I saw on some other forum that it has higher scores than the 1st MMLP and I can't understand that at all, but this is a pretty enjoyable album. I know its got the guy from Fun and Skylar, with their big pop hooks and all which is super lame to a lot of rap fans, but so many songs on here are very listenable.

I'm addicted to Rhyme or Reason
 
The full 4 minute version of Don't Front is out now.

Edit: Damn. Was only half listening really cause I'm busy but I really like the sound of this. Dat old school beat.
 
After a few days, this is the optimal tracklist with the music provided.

1. Bad Guy
2. Parking Lot (Skit)
3. Rhyme or Reason
4. So Much Better
5. Rap God
6. Brainless
7. the chorus on "So Far..." Yes only the chorus, repeated 3 times. Like an Interlude
8. Headlights (not because I like the song, but because of the message)
9. Evil Twin
10. Baby
11. Groundhog Day
12. Wicked Ways

That's a decent album. Like a good 2004 tier Eminem mixtape or something.

That's my rating and I'm sticking to it.
 
For anyone interested:

BET is bringing back Rap City in a special edition episode for the release of MMLP2.

Its tomorrow @ 7pm. Promo hints at a freestyle with Em and Slaughterhouse.
 
Ya'll weren't kidding about those deluxe tracks. Picked it up today and they really should've been on the album proper. Drop Stronger Than I Was and fit the other five on there and you've got one quality mega album or a double with two ten track discs if you wanna present it that way.

My opinion's still kinda wavering on some of the main tracks though, especially Survival. I actually really like the first half, but after that it tapers off. I think Love Game is really good on a technical level, I just don't go much on the "fuck bitches" tracks, and that's the second or third for this record so by that point I kinda just don't care as a listener despite the great display of skill.

But yeah, the deluxe disc tracks really would've bolstered the quality of the album overall.
 
Starting to listen to the album... Berzerk, despite have listened to it before and disliking it, is not THAT bad after I've listened to it a couple of times... Catchy, I guess.

Let's see how the rest holds up. Isn't Berzerk supposed to be the best song in the album?
 
I admit that I judged this album too soon. It's grown on me a lot, though I still loathe all the carry-overs from Recovery. I just might purchase.

By the way, don't know if anyone's mentioned this yet, but I just realized that the whole album is basically what's going on in Eminem's head as he's dying at the end of "Bad Guy".
 
Picked up the Deluxe today.

Took a picture of my collection

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Some of these CD's have been through some trials and tribulations lol. Couldn't even find the Encore case :(
 
Eminem Set for Year's Second-Largest Sales Week, Seventh No. 1 Album on Billboard 200
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By Keith Caulfield, Los Angeles | November 05, 2013 5:40 PM EST

Eminem Set for Year's Second-Largest Sales Week, Seventh No. 1 Album on Billboard 200

Eminem is set to rock the top of the Billboard 200 albums chart next week. The Detroit rapper’s latest album, "The Marshall Mathers LP 2," is on course to earn the second-largest sales week of the year and debut at No. 1.

Released Tuesday (Nov. 5), industry sources forecast the new album to sell between 700,000 and 750,000 copies by the end of the tracking week on Nov. 10. That should mark the second-biggest sales week of the year for an album, surpassed only by the debut of Justin Timberlake's "The 20/20 Experience," which opened with 968,000 in March, according to Nielsen SoundScan.

The year's second-biggest week is currently owned by Drake's "Nothing Was the Same," which entered at No. 1 with 658,000.

The expected No. 1 arrival of "The Marshall Mathers LP 2,” and official sales number, will be announced on Nov. 13. The set will mark Emimem's seventh consecutive No. 1 album. Of all his releases, only one -- his "The Slim Shady LP" debut -- missed the top slot. It debuted and peaked at No. 2 in 1999.

While "The Marshall Mathers LP 2" has only been on sale less than a day, sources can project its first week based on a number of indicators. They include orders from retailers and early sales at digital retail, first-week performance of comparable albums, media exposure, radio and YouTube trends for the album's singles, and so on. Of course, a forecast is just that. So, Eminem's official sales figure, as compiled by SoundScan, could ultimately end up different from early estimates.

Eminem's last album, 2010's "Recovery," blasted in at No. 1 with 741,000. And his set before that, 2009's "Relapse," entered atop the list with 608,000.

Since 2008, only three hip-hop albums have sold more than 700,000 in a week: Lil Wayne's "Tha Carter III" in 2008 (1.01 million its first week, according to Nielsen SoundScan), Eminem's "Recovery" and Lil Wayne's "Tha Carter IV" in 2011 (964,000 in its debut).

Eminem is currently tied with Kanye West and Nas for the second-most No. 1 albums among hip-hop acts (they each have six leaders). A new No. 1 would give Eminem the second-place distinction all to himself. Among all hip-hop acts, only Jay Z, with 13 No. 1s, has more. (The all-time champs, among all artists, by the way, are the Beatles, with 19 No. 1s.)
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Very interesting - less than a million after all. Slightly disappointed. Singles are selling extremely well though.
 
My copy turned up last night, we played a few tracks on the way to the cinema.

Rap God is by far my favourite so far. So good. I hated bezerk when I saw the music video the other week, but hearing it last night, it's growing on me.
 
... This album is much better than I expected.

I almost feel like Em' released those trash singles just to prove a point, if some of the lyrics in Bad Guy is something to go by...
 
Yoshichan said:
Starting to listen to the album... Berzerk, despite have listened to it before and disliking it, is not THAT bad after I've listened to it a couple of times... Catchy, I guess.

Let's see how the rest holds up. Isn't Berzerk supposed to be the best song in the album?
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Wut.

I love Berzerk, but many other songs outshine it.
 
Still can't get over how great Bad Guy is. Love how it highlights Mathew's fall from sanity as the song progresses just like how the song Stan highlighted the fan's fading admiration for Em.

Verse 1 said:
Can’t think of a better way to define poetic justice
Cannot I hold grudges, mind is saying: "let it go, fuck this"
Heart is saying: "I will, once I bury this bitch alive
Hide the shovel and then drive off in the sunset"
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I'm thinking "He's still got a voice of reason telling him to forget about it and continue with his life. He'll fantasise about killing him but won't do anything about it. Come on man, it's been so long! Get over it!"

Verse 2 said:
You left our family in shambles
You expect me to just get over him, pretend he never existed
Maybe gone, but he's not forgotten
And don't think cause he's been out the pictures so long
That I've stopped the plottin' and still ain't coming to get ya
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At this point I'm like "Wow, He's determined to avenge his brother and he's willing to do something nuts but I think it's still all talk and he won't go overboard.

and while it's obvious that he's crazy during Verse 3 and goes into bizarrely crazy mode by the time he's driving in the car talking to himself*. It's only at this particular line ...

*Not entirely sure if Eminem is still conscious at this point but even then I do not think he can hear him when he's in the car's boot. Not properly anyway.

Verse 3 said:
New plan Stan!
Slim, chauvinist pig drove in this big, Lincoln Town Car
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that I'm thinking "Holy shit, he's fucking gone looney tunes bat shit insane". The second he puts on that SSLP voice you know exactly he's completely lost the plot.
 
KdoubleA said:
Thats on purpose.."Your ass backwards like..."
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I was wondering that, missed the first part I guess. :lol Probably should have listened back to it again before saying that.

Majestad said:
What song do you guys think has the best hook?

I'm going for So Much Better. That shit's straight out of the Eminem Show era.
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So far it's Wicked Ways for me, but that could just be because it was the last song I listened to.
 
CountBlackule said:
Picked up the Deluxe today.

Took a picture of my collection



Some of these CD's have been through some trials and tribulations lol. Couldn't even find the Encore case :(
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The deluxe packaging and the standard make sense. The cover symbolizes him revisiting home one final time and then the deluxe shows a car window frame to show leaving.

Centered around Headlights.
 
Divius said:
What seems to be the consensus on the album? About to give it a listen.
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I think if you take out both extremes, the stans and those who are not into Eminem, you will find a pretty solid project. The best material Eminem has put out since TES/8MILE. And if you already enjoy Em and the things he raps about or his style in general you will find a lot of little details and callbacks to his earlier work.

I rated it a 7/10 only because I think the lows are super low and unnecessary, but overall the standout tracks really hit the spot. Could have been a 8.-8.5 out of 10 project for me personally if the bonus tracks were mixed in over some of the actual tracks on the album.

But who knows you might hate it. No way to get a consensus on music. I know a lot of people like Yeezus a lot, even consider the AOTY but besides a song and a half I can't get into it.

Maybe Em should have fashioned it as a double album with 10 tracks on each disk. I am sure he recorded more than 30 tracks.

A song like Don't Front doesn't even make sense as a COD bonus exclusive because its a real cool callback to old school rap with Buckshot yet I doubt the COD crowd would appreciate it. Survival fit but Don't Front? Who the hell makes these decisions?
 
Sir_Crocodile said:
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I have to agree with this.

Also after listening to the album a fair few times, this is my personal ranking.

MMLP >= TES >> SSLP > MMLP2 >> Relapse >> Recovery > Encore.

Just a personal list. I think I like the original MMLP better than TES but I'm not sure (I'm a bit biased since TES was my first Eminem album I heard).
 
I've never been a huge rap fan, only have a few artist i like.

That said, I'm really enjoying this CD. I think it's pretty solid.

That last verse of Bad Guy is absolutely incredible.
 
Damn... at first I wasnt sure... but some of these songs are fucking awesome.

So much Better
Bad Guy
So Far..
Rhyme or Reason
Rap God
Wicked Ways


Most of those remind me of his old shit, making you laugh at the ridiculousness of the lyrics but feeling the emotion. Shits good.
 
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