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[Akibastman]

Ridley will be stage hazard. That's exactly why there's holes in the walls. He'll be teasing his arrival by looking through walls and and flying behind them, and then BAM surprise entrance, messing with the players.

 

[emb]

Do we still have multiple air dodge in this game right?

I sure hope not.

 

[Mit-]

I don't think I've seen multiple air dodging confirmed, but I'm not sure. Meteor smash is always a huge move for any character though, with or without multiple air dodging. Could be what adult Link needs to be considered as a serious character.

I wonder if Toon Link will have a meteor smash as well? That would make him quite OP in my mind, especially since he's already floaty with his f-air.

If you gave Brawl Link a meteor smash he would still be super ass.

He needs a viable recovery.

Although you need to have glitchy/broken shit and/or psycho disjointed hitboxes to be viable in that awful game.



Also I highly doubt they take out multiple air dodge. Someone go watch the Mario/Mega Man match again. Surely someone airdodges in it.

 

[SuperSah]

Ridley will be stage hazard. That's exactly why there's holes in the walls. He'll be teasing his arrival by looking through walls and and flying behind them, and then BAM surprise entrance, messing with the players.

Pretty much summed it up.

Move on, guys!

 

[ShockingAlberto]

I would be super in to Link's downward stab being a meteor smash.

 

[-Horizon-]

Pretty much summed it up.

Move on, guys!

So next question, its gonna be Other M's buffed up Ridley isn't it?

 

[afoni]

it makes toon link pretty useless now if it stays in

 

[SuperSah]

So next question, its gonna be Other M's buffed up Ridley isn't it?

I hope so.

I really want to see the disappointment on your faces.

 

[SmithnCo]

So next question, its gonna be Other M's buffed up Ridley isn't it?

Yes, Other M Ridley will be the Other M stage hazard.

 

[Anura]

it makes toon link pretty useless now if it stays in

Not really. TL's spike is down air is hardly a part if his game.

 

[afoni]

Not really. TL's spike is down air is hardly a part if his game.

It really is.

 

[Berordn]

Yes, Other M Ridley will be the Other M stage hazard.

And the Ridley that isn't a massive disappointment and middle finger to the fanbase will be playable!

Brilliant.

 

[Anura]

It really is.

Really? I thought it was mostly just B-air and Z-air spacing mixed with specials.

 

[-Horizon-]

So if you're playing as Samus on this stage and Ridley swoops in, does your character freeze up on you until he disappears?

 

[GregLombardi]

So if you're playing as Samus on this stage and Ridley swoops in, does your character freeze up on you until he disappears?

I loved Other M in the gameplay department (I think it was possibly the most fun game on Wii), but I LOL'ed.

 

[Mit-]

It really is.

No, not really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJARyGrBILU

That's how you play Toon Link if you want to have any chance at beating a high tier character.

 

[IntelliHeath]

I don't think I've seen multiple air dodging confirmed, but I'm not sure. Meteor smash is always a huge move for any character though, with or without multiple air dodging. Could be what adult Link needs to be considered as a serious character.

I wonder if Toon Link will have a meteor smash as well? That would make him quite OP in my mind, especially since he's already floaty with his f-air.

Toon Link already have meteor smash in Brawl (and Melee (Young Link)) It work very similar where you have to hit specific sweet spot to able to cause meteor smash.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Ridley will be stage hazard. That's exactly why there's holes in the walls. He'll be teasing his arrival by looking through walls and and flying behind them, and then BAM surprise entrance, messing with the players.

OMG STAHP

 

[qq more]

I actually want Ridley playable, despite joking about his size sometimes...


I've said this 5 other times in the other threads but he needs to be voiced by Slowbeef/Diabetus!!!!!!!

 

[SmithnCo]

And the Ridley that isn't a massive disappointment and middle finger to the fanbase will be playable!

Brilliant.

That would be the best case scenario. They are different Ridleys after all.

 

[Valus]

It's kind of hard to consider it much of a buff when going offstage with Dair and taking that risk far outweighs the benefits. As it is, in both Melee and Brawl, Link (if he misses the Dair) couldn't make it back to the stage because of the huge amount of endlag the move has. And its onstage uses would still be the same, anyway, unless the meteor pops grounded opponents up for Link to follow-up on for combos.

It doesn't target what makes Link bad, it's just giving him something and not understanding where his problems actually lie. It doesn't target his strengths, either. Dair was already a good move to use for KOs, it didn't need another option to KO with (especially one as risky as a meteor). Yeah, it kind of rewards you for going offstage with it, at least, but it's not helping him much.

But hey he could find it to be "OP" (under the context of what he balances under, which is likely with items on and for mid level players in mind) and take it out anyway so I guess I shouldn't think about it too much. However, it'd also be a bad sign if he took it out because it was considered OP, because tbh I'm finding it hard to believe it would have anything more than very, very situational usage.

As long as you dair while ascending you can safely do it with Link offstage and still recover as it won't send Link plummeting to his death (he will mostly "hover" through it). But otherwise, I completely agree with your post.

I main Link in every installment and while there's no harm in giving him this meteor, it definitely isn't what he needs. I can't imagine how Sakurai would think this would make him overpowered. All it tells me is that he doesn't understand what Link's flaws are, as you stated.

 

[The Bankslammer]

i hope sakurai throws us a curveball and makes ridley's sole appearance in smash u a tamagotchi game where you raise baby ridley from other m

 

[Anura]

I actually want Ridley playable, despite joking about his size sometimes...


I've said this 5 other times in the other threads but he needs to be voiced by Slowbeef/Diabetus!!!!!!!

He honestly should be. I don't know why they had him as a boss in SSBB. Also where did your avatar go?

 

[SenorArdilla]

That would be the best case scenario. They are different Ridleys after all.

It will be the other way around.

 

[Anura]

As long as you dair while ascending you can safely do it with Link offstage and still recover as it won't send Link plummeting to his death (he will mostly "hover" through it). But otherwise, I completely agree with your post.

I main Link in every installment and while there's no harm in giving him this meteor, it definitely isn't what he needs. I can't imagine how Sakurai would think this would make him overpowered. All it tells me is that he doesn't understand what Link's flaws are, as you stated.

Unless he got other buffs too. If he did this could just be what tipped the scale to "unbalanced".

 

[SmithnCo]

It will be the other way around.

But they'll make it baby bird Ridley with an X-TREME Ridley final smash.

 

[afoni]

No, not really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJARyGrBILU

That's how you play Toon Link if you want to have any chance at beating a high tier character.

oh okay

well i just play for fun so lol

 

[Timeaisis]

Toon Link already have meteor smash in Brawl (and Melee (Young Link)) It work very similar where you have to hit specific sweet spot to able to cause meteor smash.

Ah, yeah it's for specific sweet spot. After re-reading today's pic Link is getting the same thing. Nevermind, I thought it was a always-on meteor smash, which would be insane.

 

[KHlover]

No, not really.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RJARyGrBILU

That's how you play Toon Link if you want to have any chance at beating a high tier character.

Correction: That's how you play Toon Link if you and everyone else around you is a PRO. In any other environment tiers are meaningless. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted."

 

[foxuzamaki]

I actually want Ridley playable, despite joking about his size sometimes...


I've said this 5 other times in the other threads but he needs to be voiced by Slowbeef/Diabetus!!!!!!!

I wouldnt mind if he was playable either, I wont cry a river if he isnt though.

 

[voltronbadA]

Please do this for every update from now on.

Ha ha glad someone enjoyed my reference

 

[ffdgh]

Do we still have multiple air dodge in this game right?

I forget where it was said but sakurai did say they were still in "at this time"

 

[IntelliHeath]

I forget where it was said but sakurai did say they were still in "at this time"

Oh yeah. I remembered that. They want to make sure everything is balanced I guess.

 

[JazzmanZ]

The Best solution: Ridley is a stage hazard AND a playable character.

Toon Link proves it non? Both a character on ze Spirit track stage and is playable to form.

 

[Anura]

Correction: That's how you play Toon Link if you and everyone else around you is a PRO. In any other environment tiers are meaningless. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted."

Wouldn't that last statement also mean that TL wouldn't be useless anyways?

 

[KHlover]

The Best solution: Ridley is a stage hazard AND a playable character.

Toon Link proves it non? Both a character on ze Spirit track stage and is playable to form.

No, the Toon Link you play isn't the Toon Link from Spirit Tracks, it is the one from Wind Waker and Phantom Hourglass.

Still possible though, Ridley has roughly a gazillion forms to choose from...

 

[Ivan 3414]

it makes toon link pretty useless now if it stays in

Hahahahaha. Toon Link's spike wasn't close to being the main reason why he was better than Link.

 

[Mit-]

Correction: That's how you play Toon Link if you and everyone else around you is a PRO. In any other environment tiers are meaningless. "Nothing is true, everything is permitted."

I wasn't aware casuals had their own tiers.

Original statement was Toon Link's dair isn't a big part of his game, which seemingly implies it isn't necessary to him being a particularly good character. It isn't, really.

Also I feel like casuals would use it less because half the time they kill themselves trying to land a spike with that incredibly risky dair of his.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

Who wants to make me a Ridley avatar with believe or team ridley on it.

 

[KHlover]

Wouldn't that last statement also mean that TL wouldn't be useless anyways?

No one is useless if you don't specifically play against pro's only.

 

[Anth0ny]

It's kind of hard to consider it much of a buff when going offstage with Dair and taking that risk far outweighs the benefits. As it is, in both Melee and Brawl, Link (if he misses the Dair) couldn't make it back to the stage because of the huge amount of endlag the move has. And its onstage uses would still be the same, anyway, unless the meteor pops grounded opponents up for Link to follow-up on for combos.

It doesn't target what makes Link bad, it's just giving him something and not understanding where his problems actually lie. It doesn't target his strengths, either. Dair was already a good move to use for KOs, it didn't need another option to KO with (especially one as risky as a meteor). Yeah, it kind of rewards you for going offstage with it, at least, but it's not helping him much.

But hey he could find it to be "OP" (under the context of what he balances under, which is likely with items on and for mid level players in mind) and take it out anyway so I guess I shouldn't think about it too much. However, it'd also be a bad sign if he took it out because it was considered OP, because tbh I'm finding it hard to believe it would have anything more than very, very situational usage.

Exactly.

Which is why I'm dying at the fact that sakurai is all like "don't worry everyone if it's too op I'll take it out"

Dude it's LINK

you put meta knight in brawl

 

[ratcliffja]

So I've played all 4 Smash Brothers games and still have no clue what a Meteor Smash is. Is it like that stuff where you hold a direction and A to charge an attack?

 

[Valus]

Unless he got other buffs too. If he did this could just be what tipped the scale to "unbalanced".

That's true. Though it would surprise me if they alter him that much. Has any character been seriously buffed/nerfed from one installment to another? I can only think of random changes that they probably didn't realize would affect the character that much, such as taking away Falcon's lunge jump from melee to brawl. That seriously hurt his game but the change itself was "minor."

 

[Anura]

No one is useless if you don't specifically play against pro's only.

That's the point. Check the post a few above this one about the original statement

 

[SuperSah]

So I've played all 4 Smash Brothers games and still have no clue what a Meteor Smash is. Is it like that stuff where you hold a direction and A to charge an attack?

It's where you do some certain attack on the edge of a stage which sends the opponent rocketing downwards in a Smash like attack.

I'm not 100% sure, but I gathered this much from these guys here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cv0qe2a41ow

Here's a video showing some.

 

[IceDoesntHelp]

So I've played all 4 Smash Brothers games and still have no clue what a Meteor Smash is. Is it like that stuff where you hold a direction and A to charge an attack?

how'd you play the Wii U and/or 3DS games?

 

[ffdgh]

So I've played all 4 Smash Brothers games and still have no clue what a Meteor Smash is. Is it like that stuff where you hold a direction and A to charge an attack?

You mean 3 right?

Anywhoo a meteor smash is an attack that sends an opponent downward like a meteor lol.

 

[Anura]

That's true. Though it would surprise me if they alter him that much. Has any character been seriously buffed/nerfed from one installment to another? I can only think of random changes that they probably didn't realize would affect the character that much, such as taking away Falcon's lunge jump from melee to brawl. That seriously hurt his game but the change itself was "minor."

True. I was mostly just postulating and didn't actually believe it either. But in terms of nerfs jigglypuff got hit hard and so did sheik to a lesser extent.

 

[SmithnCo]

So I've played all 4 Smash Brothers games and still have no clue what a Meteor Smash is. Is it like that stuff where you hold a direction and A to charge an attack?

That's a smash attack. Meteor is an attack that has a small "glint" on it and sends people straight downwards, usually used to kill them when they're recovering from off the stage.

 

[georgetheplushie]

Pic of the day. Link's downward strike was designed to change to a Meteor Smash when the tip of the sword is aligned just right at the start. However, it will be removed if it's deemed too powerful overall after some multiplayer play tests.

Attention Mr. Sakurai, I have a great deal for you. I'd like to offer you my services as a multiplayer play tester full time for free. Together, I know we can work together to make the best Smash Bros. game of all time. Thanks.