Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

Nintendo first/second party IPs without a playable smash rep

Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Takamura's Castle
Brain Age
Custom Robo
Legendary Starfy
Punch Out
Nintendo/Advance wars
Wii ___ series
Chibi Robot
Magical ___ series (rip brownie brown)
Ouedan/Elite Beat Agents
Heracles series
Dillon series

And that's just off the top of my head. Now I don't think all these series deserve playable reps, but Nintendo has tons of awesome IPs they're just sitting on
 
Nintendo first/second party IPs without a playable smash rep



And that's just off the top of my head. Now I don't think all these series deserve playable reps, but Nintendo has tons of awesome IPs they're just sitting on

Need a brain age stage.
Need a herc assist trophy
 
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Lucario's Final Smash goes really far.
 
Nintendo first/second party IPs without a playable smash rep

Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Takamura's Castle
Brain Age
Custom Robo
Legendary Starfy
Punch Out
Nintendo/Advance wars
Wii ___ series
Chibi Robot
Magical ___ series (rip brownie brown)
Ouedan/Elite Beat Agents
Heracles series
Dillon series

And that's just off the top of my head. Now I don't think all these series deserve playable reps, but Nintendo has tons of awesome IPs they're just sitting on

With the Wii U they got TW101, which is the only new character-focused IP they have on the console.
 
Neoricehatesgamespeoplelike, how can you say a Golden Sun rep is anywhere but the top creamy layer of the barrel? I think I'm going to cry. :(

My top ten reasons for not wanting a Golden sun rep:

reason 10:
The characters look like generic RPG heroes.
reason 9:
There are much better places for generic RPG heroes.
reason 8:
The series is hardly relevant anymore.
reason 7:
The game should partly be dismissed on fugly artwork alone.
reason 6:
I'm already willing to accept Shulk, allowing more than 1 generic shitty blonde RPG hero would screw up my blood pressure.
reason 5:
That hand move would make Fludd seem good.
reason 4:
Golden Sun 2's protagonist is even more generic than 1.
reason 3:
Because at no point thinking of a golden sun rep makes me feel like I'd be extremely happy and excited to try and play as it.
reason 2:
Because I'd prefer as many female characters on the roster as possible, so only the most logical & relevant male chars make sense to me.
reason 1:
Because I already have low expectations, so I don't want the roster clogged with trash.
 
My top ten reasons for not wanting a Golden sun rep:

reason 10:
The characters look like generic RPG heroes.
reason 9:
There are much better places for generic RPG heroes.
reason 8:
The series is hardly relevant anymore.
reason 7:
The game should partly be dismissed on fugly artwork alone.
reason 6:
I'm already willing to accept Shulk, allowing more than 1 generic shitty blonde RPG hero would screw up my blood pressure.
reason 5:
That hand move would make Fludd seem good.
reason 4:
Golden Sun 2's protagonist is even more generic than 1.
reason 3:
Because at no point thinking of a golden sun rep makes me feel like I'd be extremely happy and excited to try and play as it.
reason 2:
Because I'd prefer as many female characters on the roster as possible, so only the most logical & relevant male chars make sense to me.
reason 1:
Because I already have low expectations, so I don't want the roster clogged with trash.

I hope that you wouldn't get high blood pressure when they confirmed Golden Sun representative.
They wouldn't.
 
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Pic of the day. The characters' thick outlines are only available in the 3DS version. Only the external outline is thickened and won't appear in instances like when the hands or feet are overlapping. It's got a softness to it and is not just black.
Hmm, there is some soft brown outline on its tail.
 
Golden Sun > your favorite franchise

Fantastic stories, music, at the time fantastic visuals for the gba, great balance of fun and fast rpg combat and puzzles making use of the various psynergy. Psynergy itself has so many cool abilities that would work well in the smash universe.

Saying the cast of Golden Sun is generic is just wrong, we get to learn more about Isaac and Felix thanks to the opposite game they weren't the lead character in and through others interactions with them. The way Isaac was used in Brawl was horribly depressing.

Hell a new golden sun game came out in 2010, what's this crap about it not being relevant? It came out the same year as the last metroid game. I guess metroid isn't relevant either :P

Also when were ice climbers ever relevant before they were announcement? Or pit? Also Golden Sun is the only franchise that had an assist but no playable characters since Brawl's release to get a new game.
 
Takamaru with redesign à la Pit is a given, coming along new Takamaru game from Ead Tokyo 2nd team.

I would like to assume that we might get a new game based on mysterious marasume castle since It could easily exxplain why Sakurai visited P* Game studio since I'm hoping that it would be for a reason that Sakurai would ask Kamiya for new design for Takamaru.
 
I can't say with 100% certainty golden sun will get a rep in smash, but then again nobody can especially with how crazy Sakurai can be. No one in a million years would have seriously expected wii fit trainer or mr g&w or snake, or captain falcon, or ice climbers until they were already confirmed? The fact golden sun did get an assist trophy spot shows Sakurai is aware of the franchise and has considered it at some point in Brawl's development.
 
Just to spite you, now, they'll announce Monita.

No joke, I've been expecting Monita to replace ROB since the initial reveal. Then again it seems like Sakurai wanted to get the "unexpected controversial" character out of the way first with the Wii Fit Trainer reveal.

And now she's everyone's favorite
glorious pale waifu

I just hope revealing a character like that so early with none but two newcomers in the past five months being shown isn't a sign that Sakurai is running out of ideas. I've been incredibly skeptical about Smash 4 even prior to it's reveal not only cause I felt Brawl's roster was mostly flawless, but also because Nintendo just really hasn't been trying much to create new interesting character-driven IPs.
 
yup, all 3 need playable reps, but for sin and punishmet it needs saki, also why did you post S&P's sequel lol

Because Isa & Jo teamup character where one shoots the other slashes > Saki by himself.

Disclaimer: I like both ideas. Put_Sin_&_Punishment_Character_In_Smash_4_roster
 
I'd love an Endless Ocean assist trophy!

What other relatively new series could have one?

Obviously there's Kid Icarus, Steel DIver, Dillon, Pushmo, Art Style series, Xenoblade, Last Story, Pandora's Tower, Zangeki no Reginleiv..
 
Because Isa & Jo teamup character where one shoots the other slashes > Saki by himself.

Disclaimer: I like both ideas. Put_Sin_&_Punishment_Character_In_Smash_4_roster

you control 2 people in sin and punishment 1 aswell lol, tho for story reasons
 
No joke, I've been expecting Monita to replace ROB since the initial reveal. Then again it seems like Sakurai wanted to get the "unexpected controversial" character out of the way first with the Wii Fit Trainer reveal.

And now she's everyone's favorite
glorious pale waifu

I just hope revealing a character like that so early with none but two newcomers in the past five months being shown isn't a sign that Sakurai is running out of ideas. I've been incredibly skeptical about Smash 4 even prior to it's reveal not only cause I felt Brawl's roster was mostly flawless, but also because Nintendo just really hasn't been trying much to create new interesting character-driven IPs.
Why would she replace R.O.B. and not just be added to the roster? Lol.
 
Sin and Punishment rep is one of my most wanted next to Little Mac, probably would be Saki I'm guessing. I can imagine an awesome S&P stage too.
 
Why would she replace R.O.B. and not just be added to the roster? Lol.

Why would she be considered at all? ROB represents an era and a beloved hardware peripheral. Monita's just kind of a deadpan snarker guide character.

Nintendo Land stage would be the bee's knees though.
 
Why would she be considered at all? ROB represents an era and a beloved hardware peripheral. Monita's just kind of a deadpan snarker guide character.

Nintendo Land stage would be the bee's knees though.

Rob represents Gyromite, there's no way in hell he would have gotten in otherwise.
 
I don't think I'd shed a tear if ROB was dropped, if it meant making room for someone new.

Speaking of dropping characters, Ness and Falcon have to be given at this point, right? Smash has practically defined those characters. (I just don't want to find Ness completely replaced by Lucas)
 
My point still stands.

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Pic from Kirby 3
Moves from set up for Gyromite
Victory theme for ROB is from Gyromite/Stack Up etc.

thats fine, because he has a game to based that stuff on. infact....well rob wouldnt even exist if he wasent designed around a game so Idk whats the point you were trying to make in the first place
 
I don't think I'd shed a tear if ROB was dropped, if it meant making room for someone new.

Speaking of dropping characters, Ness and Falcon have to be given at this point, right? Smash has practically defined those characters. (I just don't want to find Ness completely replaced by Lucas)

They're both part of the Smash 64 roster, so I don't think they'll be going anywhere.
 
So I was thinking about new potential items again (yes, I like having items on, I guess i'm not a pro) and was thinking that including an item from new 3D world seems like a given. Which item do you think they would include?

At first I was thinking the bell - cat suit because obvious reasons being who wouldn't want to see Bowser or Ganondorf rocking a cat suit? Then I wondered if that would be too much work than it's worth (having to design a cat suit that fits everyone's proportions).

Second thought which I think would be really interesting would be the double cherries. Pick it up and you get a second copy of yourself following you around and copying your moves! I loved this idea but then got to thinking how crazy it would get if Ice Climbers or Olimar were to pick one of these bad boys up. If they are concerned about the 3DS not being able to handles 4 Ice Climber battles (16 characters on stage at once) then I'm sure 4 Ice Climber battles with all having double cherries would never work.

couldn't really think of any other items that seem as intriguing as these two that I would want included. What are your thoughts?
 
Nintendo first/second party IPs without a playable smash rep

Xenoblade
Golden Sun
Takamura's Castle
Brain Age
Custom Robo
Legendary Starfy
Punch Out
Nintendo/Advance wars
Wii ___ series
Chibi Robot
Magical ___ series (rip brownie brown)
Ouedan/Elite Beat Agents
Heracles series
Dillon series

And that's just off the top of my head. Now I don't think all these series deserve playable reps, but Nintendo has tons of awesome IPs they're just sitting on

I don't see Rhythm Heaven in this list.
Rhythm Heaven Monkey confirmed for Smash?
 
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