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I like how in Germany people will actually tell you a bunch of stuff when you say how are you. I absolutely hate the inanity of being asked 'How are you?' with a shit eating grin when a friendly hello does the job.
Yeah, it can be frustrating especially if they are taken aback when I actually respond, or when they don't even leave room for me to respond before saying something else.

I haven't noticed this. I mean nobody actually cares about how you are, but the unwritten rule seems to be answering "fine" or "good" and then responding with "how are you?" I've never actually heard someone respond with "hi" to "how are you." The closest I have heard was "hey! I'm good! How are you?" and that is usually when speaking with friends where you actually do care to some degree how they are.

It's a pretty common greeting here in Australia. If you're walking past a stranger down the street people usually do a bit of a nod and throw out a "how's it going?"/ "how're you going?" without stopping. I can see why some people would take that as rude, but the meaning has kind of changed.


Australia ought to be much more sensitive when it comes to race. I'm by no means an expert, but I've heard some shockingly horrible things from white Australians, almost always regarding Aboriginals. Anti-racist sentiment is only seen as overly politically correct in a society that is, in general, racist.

Pretty much all of Europe and its diaspora is racist to some extent. Some parts much less than others.
oh boy, time to play the "who is the most racist" game again. Ugh.
 

delirium

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Racism is Europe is completely different from racism in America. America racism focuses mostly on race, while racism in Europe is dominated by ethnic racism.

How many times have we seen GAF threads about Roma and the kind of vile hatred that gets said in there? Racism in Europe is not like the racism in America, but its there, and its pretty damn bad.
 
I can't believe someone is arguing the States are more socially progressive than europe. Eastern Europe sure, the rest not a chance.

this post is so fucking stupid, my head is spinning. when your elected officials stop calling other elected officials savages/monkeys/etc. or when you decide to reverse the ban on religious architecture in your "progressive" countries, then come back.

Racism is Europe is completely different from racism in America. America racism focuses mostly on race, while racism in Europe is dominated by ethnic racism.

How many times have we seen GAF threads about Roma and the kind of vile hatred that gets said in there? Racism in Europe is not like the racism in America, but its there, and its pretty damn bad.

tell me about it. i'm really sick of this general gaf consensus that europe can do no wrong in terms of racial politics. even european blackface is deemed okay because of "tradition" and "not having the same racial hangups" as america.
 

Joni

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tell me about it. i'm really sick of this general gaf consensus that europe can do no wrong in terms of racial politics. even european blackface is deemed okay because of "tradition" and "not having the same racial hangups" as america.
We have racial problems, but they are not the same as American racial problems. Blackface isn't a concept here because you know, we never had a high black population and the ministrel theaters didn't exist here. We have different racial problems. It is stupid to take America's racial problem and expect everyone to have the exact same problems. Our population diversity is different, our history is different.
 
Racism is Europe is completely different from racism in America. America racism focuses mostly on race, while racism in Europe is dominated by ethnic racism.

How many times have we seen GAF threads about Roma and the kind of vile hatred that gets said in there? Racism in Europe is not like the racism in America, but its there, and its pretty damn bad.

dude...what? First of all, there's only 1 race, human race. We all just come from different ethnic background. YEs, black people are a different ethnicity than other peeps.

So yes, Europe and America have the same ethnic racism. just towards different ethnicity
 
Australia ought to be much more sensitive when it comes to race. I'm by no means an expert, but I've heard some shockingly horrible things from white Australians, almost always regarding Aboriginals. Anti-racist sentiment is only seen as overly politically correct in a society that is, in general, racist.

You are certainly no expert, Aboriginals account for less than 2.5% of the population in Australia. The bigger racial issue in Australia is the immigrant population, particularly Asian, Indian, Sri Lankan, Burmese, African, Middle Eastern, etc, and the reaction and tolerance of their people and culture by white Australians. It's not a huge issue, but tensions exist, mainly because here is no segregation between different ethnic groups.

I recall being shocked at the segregation in Chicago on a recent trip. We drove through a lot of the inner city and then drove through many west Chicago suburbs and were shocked at the comtrast in such a small area.
 

Acorn

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this post is so fucking stupid, my head is spinning. when your elected officials stop calling other elected officials savages/monkeys/etc. or when you decide to reverse the ban on religious architecture in your "progressive" countries, then come back.



tell me about it. i'm really sick of this general gaf consensus that europe can do no wrong in terms of racial politics. even european blackface is deemed okay because of "tradition" and "not having the same racial hangups" as america.
You should examine your own post for stupidity if you believe that. I don't even have a clue about the bullshit you're spewing. Uk here, zero ape calling.

Come back when your country isn't calling everything socialist and treating creationism as literal.
 

Hypron

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Hahaha... My penpal from Seattle used to ask me this kind of stuff in letters.

Do you have chocolate chip cookies in New Zealand?
Do you have traffic lights in New Zealand?

The thing that really cracked me up was that she had already been over here to visit me by the time we were 11. I mean, shit, YOU WERE HERE YOU SAW TRAFFIC LIGHTS, lol...

That's not limited to the US though. I moved to NZ from France half way through high school and I got several people asking me for weird stuff like "do you have cellphones in france?".
 

Ikael

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From my own experience (I've been to LA, Santa Monica, Arizona, New York, Washington, Maryland and Boston):



- Ultra hyper-nice people. Everyone seems easygoing, helpful, really easy to befriend, you walk into a bar or an office watercooler and everyone tries their best to welcome new people. And I am pretty sure that the "rude New Yorkers" stereotype was created by jelly west-coasters, as it has no basis in reality :p

- Family relationships are much more loose, for both good and bad. In one hand, American kids are far less cuddled by their parents, and thus, are much, much more indpendent in a good way. The whole "learing to work for their money since early age" does show in all their society, and bodes well for a far more meritocratic culture than my own. This is the type of American education that schools can't provide, and that breeds an extremely positive attitude towards work. In the other hand, few people in the US seems to give two crap about their parents, and the solitude and sometimes outright disdain that elderly Americans face is sad as fuck :(

- Great working eviroment and culture. Whenever I've worked on a multinational enviroment, the best people to work with are Americans: always positive, always wanting to do their best. Americans understand that since you're going to expend most of your life at it, work must be a joy, not a burden, and they cherish and aim to create the best working enviroments and working cultures that I have ever seen. Low position workers take their work as seriously as the higher-ups, whereas the higher ups also appreciate the good work that their subordinates do, even if they are just janitors or secretaries. It is a virtuous circle that in turns produces yet anothe of the best things that the US has to offer...

- Outstanding customer service. Sometimes I feel like hugging the waiter, seriously.

- Everything is huge like an Xbox. Portions, houses, landscapes, roads, cars, colonoscopies, you name it

- One bazillion different things to buy, specially regarding snacks. The sheer variety of products in American markets and their degree of specialization is truthly something. Cheese crackers? Naw: Provolone with mexican garlic spiced with macadamia nut crackers on individual multi-packs shaped into American Dad figurines. Because when you have the biggest consumer market on Earth, business can catter to very, very, VERY specific tastes

- American liberals do exist, and they are every bit as liberal as their European counterparts. Then again, I visited Massachussets :p

- Revered small business and restaurants. The stereotypical image of American cities dominated by commercial chains and clonic Starbucks is, simply put, wrong. Americans complain about "big business" eating their pop&mom stores so frequently not because it is a more common occurrence than in Europe (we're as bad) but rather because they do love their small shops more than we do. I love, LOVE the appreciation that the Americans have for their small business, and I love how this reflect into a more eclectic and highly devloped trove of unique restaurants, cafeterias and the likes.

- Bajillion cultures. Already covered that, but it is worth mentioning that multiculturalism in the US is not merely a question of "number of inmigrants per people", but rather how well preserved the "high culture" of their home countries are. Intensity rather than quantity, so to speak. It is delightful.

- Far more relaxed in clothing and protocol. One has to step out of your country to see how vastly different protocol is. Despite almost every business having a dress code, Americans seems to be far more relaxed in their attire, both inside and outside their work, as well as regarding inter-personal relationships. This also reflects into a far more varied dressing style. Some might say "un-classy", but I think that this utterly randomness makes for the Americans to hit some very interesting "fashion jackpots" from time to time.

- God bless American girls. Far more laid back and easygoing than ours. Slut-calling be damned, I like to be around girls that admits that sex is a normal part of the human existance, thank you very much. Then again, I am aware visited most of liberal-America, I suppouse that it is different in other states.

- Everyone's afraid of their own shadow and very afraid of the street, as a vital concept. America the brave? Bwahahahah. Americans fear the streets like in no other place that I've ever been, and I have lived in truthly dangerous places such as Brazil. It is overblown, and frankly, quite paranoid way of thinking. Americans truthly thinks that walking at night into a lower-middle class neighbourhood spells death. N**ga, please. Go to Caracas or Rio for having a truthly unsafe street, and even people there don't crap their pants as much, because life must go on, regardless. There's more of a fear culture than a gun culture. I blame it half on sensationalist media, half into the utterly crappy America urbanization model.

- Political correction gone mad due to shitty racial relationships. Yes, it is true, and it is a pain in the ass. And it can have a tread of its own, really. It is particularly baffling to see people getting worked up about you not getting their ameri-tribe right: "How you dare to think that I am Chinese just because I look Chinese and speak Chinese? I am a Chinese-American and proud of it! Such racism these days". Yeah, yeah, calm down and take a chill pill, please.
 

dbztrk

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Racism is Europe is completely different from racism in America. America racism focuses mostly on race, while racism in Europe is dominated by ethnic racism.

How many times have we seen GAF threads about Roma and the kind of vile hatred that gets said in there? Racism in Europe is not like the racism in America, but its there, and its pretty damn bad.

Really? So when European football fans throw bananas and chanting like monkeys at the black players they are being racist to only the specific ethnicity? I don't think so Tim...
 

Wiktor

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A large part of europe hates socialism far more than americans do. It's just that unlike americans they actually have good reason to.
 

MC_Hify

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This is 20 minutes from my house in Hebron, Indiana

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This is going sound on I-65

You see this on the other side going north on I-65

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Ah the rural Jesus billboard, I saw a lot of those when I lived in northern Idaho. There's one around here too at 20th and Geary or so. Then again the Outer Richmond is the Alabama of San Francisco.
 

Tenrius

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Well, considering that the majority of Russia lies in Asia...

That's not a very wise thing to say. A majority of the British Empire's territory was outside Europe and it didn't make the country any less European that it undoubtedly was, the same goes for the other great European powers and their colonial empires. Russia was not unlike them, the main difference being that the Russians did not have to cross oceans in order to find new places to colonize.
 

Zornica

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A large part of europe hates socialism far more than americans do. It's just that unlike americans they actually have good reason to.

which part exactly?
are you sure you're talking about socialism or "socialism" (as in "communism")?
as far as I know, apart from Yugoslavia, there never was anything remotely resembling a socialist country in europe. there are only social democracies. And also the remains of the sowjet union, which wasn't socialist either (neither communist, but thats a different topic)
 

RedShift

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Really? So when European football fans throw bananas and chanting like monkeys at the black players they are being racist to only the specific ethnicity? I don't think so Tim...
This is hardly a common event, . It happens with about the same frequency as, say, a big fuss being caused by someone trying to desegregate a prom in the southern US. It blew my mind when I found out segregated proms were still a thing.


Also, I think that gay Americans are nearly as able to get married as the gay people of Europe. Approximately 116,000,000 people live in states where gay marriage is legal. Therefore, about 37% of Americans have the right to marry a member of the same sex.

Given that gay marriage is not allowed in Italy, Ireland, Scotland, and the entirety of Central and Eastern Europe, I'm not sure if the US is any more homophobic.
Scotland has passed marriage equality like twice now, once on its own and once as part of the UK.
 

ZenaxPure

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I have never seen a Jesus billboard in America.

Man, late to this comment, but, here in my small town in KY there is literally a Jesus billboard of some kind at every exit to town.

Actually I don't even think they can be considered billboards at this point, the one on the way to the high school I attended has not changed in nearly 10 years. It's just the 10 commandments chilling in front of a forest.
 

Vyrance

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Can anyone answer this for me? Do Americans really wear their shoes inside all the time or is that just a thing on TV and movies?

Some do, but as soon as I'm home I'm walking around barefoot. Makes no sense to me to wear shoes inside the house.
 

wsippel

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Those examples pretty clearly point out that Europe has issues with racism that generally go unmentioned.
It does get mentioned. And again, those cases have nothing to do with your initial claims. There has been no state sanctioned race segregation in most of Europe for centuries (except for sad episodes like the Nazi regime), slavery was abolished in most of Europe between the late 18th and early 19th century, in Germany and its predecessors in the 13th century. We had serfdom, but that's a different concept and has nothing to do with race. Though granted, some bad (and illegal) shit happened in certain colonies.

Also, gay marriage is allowed in Germany, the biggest country in Central Europe.


EDIT: Also, as my uncle used to be a colonel in the US army stationed in Germany, I heard a lot of stories from black GIs stationed here back in the 60s. Quite a few would have wanted to stay here if it wasn't for the language and their families at home, because racism was a lot less of an issue here.
 

snarge

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Great post. The family thing bugs me about America, being American. I've always had a great relationship with my parents, but I remember them wanting me out the house as soon as I graduated high school, same thing with my other siblings. I would have preferred to stay home for some of that transition-to-college-working time, but oh well. Extended family is almost completely cut off at this point too, aside from random FB posts. I see other cultures in America, that have their grandparents through grandchildren all living under the same roof, and supporting each other...and that seems like a better way.
 

Wiktor

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which part exactly?
are you sure you're talking about socialism or "socialism" (as in "communism")?
as far as I know, apart from Yugoslavia, there never was anything remotely resembling a socialist country in europe. there are only social democracies. And also the remains of the sowjet union, which wasn't socialist either (neither communist, but thats a different topic)
The countries under Russia's influence were as close to socialismas it's realistically possible (hence why they called it Real socialism) and it was terrible system. I don't like the ravenous capitalism, but it's infinitely better than that crap was.
 
Things I couldn't believe
  • Jesus Christ you people love jesus to some irrational levels.
  • You people are deathly afraid of sex anywhere outside the bedroom.
  • But violence in copious amounts is okay.
  • You don't want to teach sex education in school nor provide contraception but are constantly shocked at teen pregnancy rates.
  • Still have horrible racial relations.
  • You people love the fuck outta guns.
  • Healthcare is a crippling debt here.
  • Jesus higher education in this country is nuts.
  • Medical/Drug advertisement on TV...like every 3 adverts is about some new drug 2/3 of American people can't even afford due to the crazy costs of healthcare here.

You got that from visiting America or are you just talking shit because of preconceptions of the country?
 
A simple request, can people posting their experiences stop using "everyone". Seriously just because that was your anecdotal experience with some people, it does not mean everyone in a large country, or even state is that way.

The majority of the stuff posted here doesn't apply to the area I live in it. Nor does it apply to probably a lot of the areas other folks live in. It would be appreciated if those expressing their experiences could stop with the generalizing a large country of 300+ million folks as all the same every where.

It'd be like taking my experience of rude waiters in Paris and saying Every restaurant in France is filled with rude staff who don't want to bring out warm food or be helpful.

Realize that America is 9,372,610 km2 with over 300 million people living in it. Your experience in one area does not speak for the entire country.
 

endre

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which part exactly?
are you sure you're talking about socialism or "socialism" (as in "communism")?
as far as I know, apart from Yugoslavia, there never was anything remotely resembling a socialist country in europe. there are only social democracies. And also the remains of the sowjet union, which wasn't socialist either (neither communist, but thats a different topic)

No first hand experience to contribute about moving/going to the states. But I have to mention this. I was born in Yugoslavia.

Often I really get the urge to try to move to USA, mainly New York or Boston. I addore those high rises, but then when I read about it and add to it some expectations of mine and stuff I probably would not like I get disillusioned.

Also I would gladly read a thread about (US)Americans thoughts on life in Europe.

EDIT: Like the time I wanted to play the Green Lottery, but then I bailed when I thought about what if I'd really win it.
 
No first hand experience to contribute about moving/going to the states. But I have to mention this. I was born in Yugoslavia.

Often I really get the urge to try to move to USA, mainly New York or Boston. I addore those high rises, but then when I read about it and add to it some expectations of mine and stuff I probably would not like I get disillusioned.

Also I would gladly read a thread about (US)Americans thoughts on life in Europe.

EDIT: Like the time I wanted to play the Green Lottery, but then I bailed when I thought about what if I'd really win it.

I sometimes get romantic and want to visit Europe but then I remind myself that I'm a Black Hispanic American born in the Caribbean and rather not deal with the racism.
 
I haven't noticed this. I mean nobody actually cares about how you are, but the unwritten rule seems to be answering "fine" or "good" and then responding with "how are you?" I've never actually heard someone respond with "hi" to "how are you." The closest I have heard was "hey! I'm good! How are you?" and that is usually when speaking with friends where you actually do care to some degree how they are.

It happens at my work alot, I kind of wonder what would happen if I responded with or "fucking fantastic" or something else wildly diffrent to "All good thanks"
Also its allways as you walk towards then away from the person, people never actually stop.
 

Ikael

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I sometimes get romantic and want to visit Europe but then I remind myself that I'm a Black Hispanic American born in the Caribbean and rather not deal with the racism.

It really depends a lot of wherever you are in Europe, really. Big cities are alright, and some of them like Amsterdam are every bit as multicultural / multi-racial as, say, New Amsterdam (aka "New York"), in some cases, even more (London is a good example of that).

Soccer and public acts in general attracts our racists like a lamp attract flies. It is a weird mix between tribalism and rednecks with a narcissist complex worth of Facebook duckface posers (Look at me, ma! I'm being a racist on TV, WOOOO I'M FAMOUS YEAAahhhhhggggofuckyourself). Personally, I like my racists to be obnoxorious and dumbfuck rather than cunning and stealthy, so I can avoid contact with them at ease.

That being said, I have to admit to have a very limited perspective of the issue being white myself. Euro-minority gaffers would probably have a far better knowdegle than mine.

Great post. The family thing bugs me about America, being American. I've always had a great relationship with my parents, but I remember them wanting me out the house as soon as I graduated high school, same thing with my other siblings. I would have preferred to stay home for some of that transition-to-college-working time, but oh well. Extended family is almost completely cut off at this point too, aside from random FB posts. I see other cultures in America, that have their grandparents through grandchildren all living under the same roof, and supporting each other...and that seems like a better way.

Thanks for the comment, your view about family relationships in the US seems to mirror the tales like Gran Torino. I think that it is kind of sad, really, having a nice extended family rules. That being said, family bonds can sometimes be axphisiating, as your Asian-american friends can probably confirm you.
 

endre

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I sometimes get romantic and want to visit Europe but then I remind myself that I'm a Black Hispanic American born in the Caribbean and rather not deal with the racism.

I don't understand this?! What would extraordinarry happen? Because I am trully genuine about my feelings about the USA. I really want to visit and check my prejudices and expectations.

EDIT: I do have some funny feelings and prejudieces about USA, but I would surely want to be convinced otherwised enough so I 'd get to the east cost big cities.

EDIT: I reallly do not care what a potential friends skin color is. Maybe this is why some people say USA overplays the racism card. For example I even worked in a country where I almost got into trouble because I do not mind gays having rights.
 

Great post. Also in terms of only visiting liberal America, you visited Arizona which is pretty conservative (they voted Romeny IIRC). Its why so many of PoliGAF gets frustrated. This country is much much more left wing than it actually is. Its just the fact that people vote differently because they aren't aware of what America actually is really like (think that people here are lazy, crime is insane and growing, etc.) .

Really all you have said is more or less true. Especially the fear of the streets thing which is particularly hilarious. Take an American to a Hispanic or dare I say black neighborhood and watch them shit their pants. People really do believe that downtown Chicago is as dangerous as Caracas. It just isn't crime however Americans are scared of EVERYTHING. Just look at the fear of terrorism.

in Germany and its predecessors in the 13th century. We had serfdom, but that's a different concept and has nothing to do with race.

I will also like to point out that serfdom pretty much existed in America until like 50 years ago or so. Look up sharecroppers.
 

Peagles

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That's not limited to the US though. I moved to NZ from France half way through high school and I got several people asking me for weird stuff like "do you have cellphones in france?".

Was this when cellphones were a new phenomena? We probably got them later here than in other countries, just seems that how it was with tech back in the day. When I was at high school they were probably in the biggest growth phase.

If someone asked you now though, yeh that'd be the same thing. Hehe.
 

G.ZZZ

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This is where America shines far above other developed nations in my opinion. It's inherently diverse, and much of the equality and diversity legislation and values found in Europe are a direct consequence of US experiences and legislation.

Which European country would elect a black president/prime minister?

Equality and legislation values are a direct consequence of US experience? Dude what?
Just for your information, slavery was abolished in europe in the X century, and returned much later with the colonialist movement. In France, slavery was officially abolished forever in 1794. England had officially abolished slavery around 1800, and in 1833 everyone that was a slave under the England empire had to be set free. Spain and Portugal abolished it in 1817. There are a couple of arabs countries that forever abolished slavery before 1865 too.
American Enlightment movement directly feed from european sources. To cite Wiki too:

Since the 1960s, historians have debated the Enlightenment's role in the American Revolution. Before 1960 the consensus was that liberalism, especially that of John Locke, was paramount and that republicanism had a distinctly secondary role.[15] The new interpretations were pioneered by J.G.A. Pocock who argued in The Machiavellian Moment (1975) that, at least in the early eighteenth-century, republican ideas were just as important as liberal ones. Pocock's view is now widely accepted.[16] Bernard Bailyn and Gordon Wood pioneered the argument that the Founding Fathers of the United States were more influenced by republicanism than they were by liberalism. Cornell University Professor Isaac Kramnick, on the other hand, argues that Americans have always been highly individualistic and therefore Lockean.[17]

Legislations in europe are mostly derived by Napoleon's model (three grades of judgment). I could go on forever.
 

jerry1594

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Belgium, Germany and countries with a recent Muslim immigration problem. But more specifically Spain.

Why Spain? If you think it's because they detest refugees/illegal immigrants from Africa, it's not really a problem in Spain compared to Italy and Greece. I think they do detest Ecuadorians though. I know Ecuador has a significant black population if that's what you mean.
 
Belgium, Germany and countries with a recent Muslim immigration problem. But more specifically Spain.

I was going to say something about the parts of Europe I've visited, but that wouldn't really be much help since I've not been to those countries often enough or recently enough to get a feel for any racial tension, and I'm white so I'd likely be blind to it anyway. Perhaps there's a member of SpainGAF here who can shed some light on things, or recommend some welcoming places to visit.

I hope you'll visit us in the UK some time. Not as romantic as continental Europe, but we'd love to have you! Bath is particularly gorgeous in the winter.
 

DanteFox

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I dunno, as much as I want to jump on the Europe hate train, the fear of going to Europe because you're black seems like the equivalent of the Europeans who are scared to visit the US because they think they'll get shot. It seems silly. Maybe I'm wrong though.
 

Valhelm

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You are certainly no expert, Aboriginals account for less than 2.5% of the population in Australia.

How is that relevant? White Australians should be cognizant of what their predecessors did to the Aboriginal's ancestors, and understand that things still are pretty shitty for Australian natives.

And is anti-immigrant sentiment in Australia worse than that in Europe?


Though granted, some bad (and illegal) shit happened in certain colonies.

This is what I was talking about, specifically. In most ways, the South was like the United States' colony, as it was a region in which the "imported natives" were extremely exploited to make money for the rest of the nation. As far as I know, slavery in European Africa was just as brutal.

Also, gay marriage is allowed in Germany, the biggest country in Central Europe.

No it isn't.
 
I sometimes get romantic and want to visit Europe but then I remind myself that I'm a Black Hispanic American born in the Caribbean and rather not deal with the racism.
lol whut.
How is that relevant? White Australians should be cognizant of what their predecessors did to the Aboriginal's ancestors, and understand that things still are pretty shitty for Australian natives.
Which we are doing.

And is anti-immigrant sentiment in Australia worse than that in Europe?
It's impossible to say. Australia is a nation built on immigration, with very different circumstances to Europe.
 
When my husband moved here (to Canada) he was a Chilean living in Spain. When he first arrived, he couldn’t believe how little we had to work for such money, and how we had the audacity to complain about being “overworked.” He was surprised that he could make enough to pay bills, buy groceries, pay rent, and still afford a social life and luxuries like our xbox while working as a pizza chef. Back home, he was working 12-16 hour days 6 days a week, with an extra 6 hour shift on Sundays, and he was making half as much. He had to work 8 months (while living with his mother) to afford the ~$4000 that constituted his plane tickets and first two months living expenses.

Now, he is lazy and entitled like the rest of us.

Is this true Europe GAF? Didn't know the gap between Spain and America is that big? Is there such a gap between France and America or Germany and America?
 

Hypron

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Was this when cellphones were a new phenomena? We probably got them later here than in other countries, just seems that how it was with tech back in the day. When I was at high school they were probably in the biggest growth phase.

If someone asked you now though, yeh that'd be the same thing. Hehe.

That was 5 years ago haha, so cellphones weren't that new. I went to a relatively low decile South Auckland school and let's just say some people I met were quite uneducated. I still had a good time there though. It was a bit of a culture shock at first, but I really enjoyed the multicultural aspect of the experience (it was really unlike anything I had experienced before).
 
Why Spain? If you think it's because they detest refugees/illegal immigrants from Africa, it's not really a problem in Spain compared to Italy and Greece. I think they do detest Ecuadorians though. I know Ecuador has a significant black population if that's what you mean.

Maybe I just met some assholes, but every single Spaniard I've met had gone out of it's way to make me feel like I was born in some jungle. I don't know what the fucking problem is, we speak the same language you would think they be more accepting.
 

andthebeatgoeson

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Awesome Traffic – Coming from India, I found it amazing the way traffic behaved without any intervention from traffic policemen. Just everyone following the rules. It was a bit bad in NYC, but not even comparable to where I live right now (Kanpur, India). People don’t try to cut you off. People let pedestrians cross. Also, the parallel parking is really efficient! The roads are so well maintained, and the scenery is always beautiful.

For some reason, I'm loving this article. Probably because it's not anti American.
 

andthebeatgoeson

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Doctors tell their patients everything.

America, fuck yeah.

Idea of a liberal art education. In Russia, after high school graduation, a student should decide on vocation: engineer, doctor, teacher, lawyer, accountant, etc. It seems inconceivable to attend a university and then to graduate without a solid specialty. I often have to explain that not knowing what one wants to do after high school is an acceptable norm in US. A student can still acquire marketable skills, expand his or horizons, get a job after graduation, and, what is even more surprising, obtain an advance degree in a totally different field later. Yes, accountant can attend a med school and become a doctor and musician can go for a master degree in computer science.
Okay, now I went from patriotic to grateful.
 
I was disappointed that there weren't escalators everywhere and I had to take stairs.

Yes... Coming from India I expected moving stairs everywhere.
 
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