Uncle Rupee
Banned
how? by pointing out some of the dumb things he does (with video evidence)?
so it's defamation of character to show Rob Ford smoking crack, and say he shouldn't be mayor because of it?
Prominent youtuber KSI censors video from Videogamer.com critquing him
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how? by pointing out some of the dumb things he does (with video evidence)?
so it's defamation of character to show Rob Ford smoking crack, and say he shouldn't be mayor because of it?
eot
Banned
One of the ways it works is that you can't post a link asking people to upvote it, if mods see it they will nuke the submission.
If you don't like it, you simply say, "Get the fuck away from me" or something equivalent.
I don't see where the 'poor expo women' thing comes into it. They met a douche, and the majority of them probably told him to fuck off. The ones that didn't, he edited into a video.
If he recorded women who didn't want to participate, or consistently harassed them after being told to go away, that would be an issue. Being 'out there' and bold is (and I'm assuming, I don't watch his videos) part of what he does.
MemoryHumanity
Member
plz be joke
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Yeah and to finish it up he made the cunnilingus gesture to the girl after he said that.
ephemeral garbage
Member
NoirVisage should really keep his mouth shut, this doesn't concern him, etcetcetc
Murkster-Dubez
Banned
You whiteknights like to paint females as victims and helpless, each had the chance to tell him to piss off and smack him one. One woman did as she clearly felt uncomfortable. Every other one laughed along with him because clearly they realised it was banter.
Oh, you're going to last long.
BlackBuzzard
Banned
80% of that didnt look like banter to me, looked a lot like sexual harrasment to me.
From TotalBiscuit (recently thought against Youtube's copyright infringement system on similar censorship issues)
lmao at total biscuit aghast at someone elses popularity, the irony. why do people listen to him again? people watch others play fifa? wow!
Murkster-Dubez
Banned
Because you aren't his target audience.
Ok, that last part is fair. I didn't know that KSI actually had something he called a 'Rape Face'. I think we can all agree that he's a dick.
That said, I still disagree with Lees. His video just comes across as an unnecessary demonization of KSI.
The point remains, KSI (to my knowledge) wasn't stalking women. He wasn't forcing women to appear in his videos. He found some willing participants, and they played along. You just have to deal with people like that, hopefully by telling them to walk in the opposite direction. I think the whole "But won't women be afraid to go to conventions" thing is, frankly, insulting to women.
Pyramid head
Banned
From Copyright, Designs and Patents Act 1988:
Criticism, review and news reporting.
(1)Fair dealing with a work for the purpose of criticism or review, of that or another work or of a performance of a work, does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement [F1 and provided that the work has been made available to the public].
[F2(1A)For the purposes of subsection (1) a work has been made available to the public if it has been made available by any means, including
(a)the issue of copies to the public;
(b)making the work available by means of an electronic retrieval system;
(c)the rental or lending of copies of the work to the public;
(d)the performance, exhibition, playing or showing of the work in public;
(e)the communication to the public of the work,
but in determining generally for the purposes of that subsection whether a work has been made available to the public no account shall be taken of any unauthorised act.]
(2)Fair dealing with a work (other than a photograph) for the purpose of reporting current events does not infringe any copyright in the work provided that (subject to subsection (3)) it is accompanied by a sufficient acknowledgement.
(3)No acknowledgement is required in connection with the reporting of current events by means of a sound recording, film [F3 or broadcast where this would be impossible for reasons of practicality or otherwise].
NoirVisage
Banned
If you don't know the difference between calling another person with no relation to you out on twitter because you feel like you're the poster child of copyright abuse, and posting a rational opinion on a gaming forum, your username suits you perfectly.
The idea is that he shouldn't be approaching them in that manner in the first place.
And even if he approached men the same way, or women started doing the same shit, that doesn't make it right.
basically, bla bla bla.
Murkster appears to be one of these people who calls people "whiteknight" in an attempt to overcompensate for his own complete lack of ability to think of women as anything other than sex-and-sandwich machines. The same kind of person who calls himself "alpha" because he read a website about how to "neg" women, and has never actually managed to speak to one himself.
OverBlood 3
Banned
Just LADS being LADS right? Don't matter if it's inappropriate she's alright about it aintcha lav? No one's shot ya tits off just a bitta banter lav. Weyyyy lads on the piss weyyyyy fooootbaaaaaalllllll!
And how do you know he didn't? He could have obviously edited the part out where they told him to fuck off. Besides, that doesn't excuse his behaviour, these people are working and having some dude shove a mic in your face and tell you that you have a std while your on camera and a bunch of people are going to see it is pretty humiliating. I don't think anyone deserves that.
using banter as justification for being saying stupid hateful shit doesn't really work (see: the unilad stuff from last year)
That's fine, but I wasn't referring to any copyright laws. Just the simple premise that, if someone uploaded a video featuring my footage that I didn't want uploaded, I should be able to take action in it getting taken down. Clips cut and edited from my video might not do me justice, for instance.
But yeah, I know that copyright law would allow the video to stay up.
Is it really that bad in the UK? To the point where this KSI style behavior is acceptable?
Don't know who this guy is, but these types of controversies are fascinating to me. You have these popular Internet personalities who companies want to leverage, but they are not fit for primetime, so to speak.
Speaks to the industry as a whole, really. Games are a huge business, but so many of gaming's personalities are not fit for public consumption, for a variety of reasons.
Speaks to the industry as a whole, really. Games are a huge business, but so many of gaming's personalities are not fit for public consumption, for a variety of reasons.
woah is neogaf /v/ now
PairOfFilthySocks
Member
I've seen this Lad shit pop on facebook more and more regularly. Some of the stuff can get pretty fucked up. Some people just don't seem to have boundaries.
Because there's no such thing as nervous laughter. That is not an appropriate way to act in public with strangers.
Well, that was fast.
Honey Bunny
Member
I think hooligans are universal, no?
BlackBuzzard
Banned
Phil Harrison was not amused.
Murkster-Dubez
Banned
Its not meant to be appropriate, hence the title. Awkward people sometimes say awkward inappropriate things. Which is the whole point of the video.
do we know whether he got permission from all the woman appearing in his video to be in his video?
going around shoving a camera in someones face in a strange environment and asking them awkward sexual questions is pretty fucking terrible
FranXico
Member
It would probably get more traction in /r/games, people don't give a shit about stuff like this in /r/gaming, unless it's a knitted sweater with Link on the front, by your cancer-sick girlfriend who also happens to be attractive.
What? You don't have an attractive, cancer-sick girlfriend that can knit? No problem, just Google search "Link Sweater" and make the rest up! Karma points!
That didn't take long!
Opened video, closed immediately after the "Massive tits!" comment. What a yobbo.
OverBlood 3
Banned
When I was at University that was 80% of the male behaviour I saw. It was disgusting, I'm not saying everyone is like that or that every uni is like that but it wasn't really what I was expecting and seeing as I was (a bit) older than a lot of the males there that kind of behaviour must've passed me by at some point.
Gotta love someone using the anal rape insult in a thread like this.
/r/games is essentially NeoGaf for me when NeoGaf goes down
Glass Shark
Banned
Sorry for the American ignorance, but does "banter" mean something different in the UK than it does in the States?
Amongst friends, whatever. Going up to strangers, especially strangers who have a job to do is not OK.
OminoMichelin
Member
Holy shit, this is horrible :/
No, sometimes they go along with it because they're feeling intimidated and bullied because they're surrounded by men and a freaking camera.
Check the lyrics to Help Me, Mary by Liz Phair to help you understand how women can feel trapped - it's up to everyone who believes in decency to step in and say stop. http://www.lyricsdepot.com/liz-phair/help-me-mary.html
I'm not trying to claim that frat row at your average university here in the states is any better. It just seems more prevalent and more acceptable in the U.K from an outsider's perspective. Disenfranchised youth and all that jazz.
I agree. It's pretty crass but if it was Sasha Baron Cohen doing it no one would bat an eye-lid. The guy slagging him off in the uploaded video is way more annoying and thinks people that are rude to waiters should be killed (WTF?).
apparently in england it's an excuse you can use to say absolutely anything you want without consequences
Glass Shark
Banned
Are copyright strikes invalidated if they are successfully appealed? Because that would really suck if YouTube puts the video back up under FU but their account still remains stricken...
Does banter mean something different in the UK than in the US? Banter usually means a back and forth conversation between two people in the US.
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