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dating a girl, we've been on 3 dates so far. 1st one we got hookah with some friends then hit up a bar and talked for an hour. 2nd we went dancing and got shitfaced then ended up back at her house but all we did was make out. and on this date she told me that she was going to make me wait until the 3rd date to have sex. i thought it was kinda weird that she put a date on it but w/e. 3rd date we watched the KU game at bww and then went to see catching fire (Great movie btw). small make out sesh followed in her car.

that was last friday. now for my reservations. i don't think she's cute. like, at all. her face is no bueno imo. idk why. she looks better when her hair is up, but she always wears it down. I sound like an asshole saying this but it's true. her body is decent. she has a huge butt and ok boobs.

her personality is so great. like, she's a huge nerd, loves comic books, likes sports, loves videogames, she's super chill and is an all around great girl. I'm just not really physically attracted to her. I also don't want to be tied down especially given where I work (she works there too, but diff department). how do i break it off nicely? just stop talking to her? I don't really text her and we rarely see each other at work. just the weekends.

I have a few other gripes, mostly having to do with sex, but they are not a huge deal.

edit: I guess I thought that we'd be having sex before this, but we're not. which is kind of annoying. girls have rarely made me wait, and instead of making me want to pursue her like she probably intended, it's just pissing me off and I don't want to wait. so maybe it is about sex.

Does "just stop talking to her" sound like a way to "break it off nicely"?

Just tell her you like her and think she's cool but you're not feeling it romantically.
 
Is it bad to buy an ex a Christmas present? We still talk and care about each other but it's complicated. Also though, she's having a hard time financially right now and I thought an Amazon gift card might be ok to give. It's hardly a full on relationship present but is it weird to give one to an ex in a situation like this?

As someone who blew hundreds of dollars on my last ex after we broke up, don't do it. You'll wish you had that money back when you two finally stop talking
 
dating a girl, we've been on 3 dates so far. 1st one we got hookah with some friends then hit up a bar and talked for an hour. 2nd we went dancing and got shitfaced then ended up back at her house but all we did was make out. and on this date she told me that she was going to make me wait until the 3rd date to have sex. i thought it was kinda weird that she put a date on it but w/e. 3rd date we watched the KU game at bww and then went to see catching fire (Great movie btw). small make out sesh followed in her car.

that was last friday. now for my reservations. i don't think she's cute. like, at all. her face is no bueno imo. idk why. she looks better when her hair is up, but she always wears it down. I sound like an asshole saying this but it's true. her body is decent. she has a huge butt and ok boobs.

her personality is so great. like, she's a huge nerd, loves comic books, likes sports, loves videogames, she's super chill and is an all around great girl. I'm just not really physically attracted to her. I also don't want to be tied down especially given where I work (she works there too, but diff department). how do i break it off nicely? just stop talking to her? I don't really text her and we rarely see each other at work. just the weekends.

I have a few other gripes, mostly having to do with sex, but they are not a huge deal.

edit: I guess I thought that we'd be having sex before this, but we're not. which is kind of annoying. girls have rarely made me wait, and instead of making me want to pursue her like she probably intended, it's just pissing me off and I don't want to wait. so maybe it is about sex.

Why do you want to have sex with someone you aren't attracted to?
 
If a gal invites you to her house, that typically demonstrates some trust. In cases like that, be attentive to what she's doing...body language, cues, tone of voice, etc. She might not have wanted to knock boots, but she might have, as well.

Not so much a missed opportunity as it is something to think about. I think probably some other GAFfers should chime in here with some advice on how to tell when a woman is interested in sexing you up. I always got where I wanted to go by being charming and letting the gal guide me, and I guess I'm lucky because it never really took more than a date or two.

Her body language was all over the place. Granted she lives with her sister but she asked me to come over the one day her sister is not there but whatever. I live alone so it's not really an issue of privacy for me as I have had my fair share of company at my place. I have always had a more passive approach and it has worked for me but im definitely more of an initiative taker when it comes to this lady.
 
Do you ever meet one of those women who alternates between being horrible to you and then trying to be nice and flirty when she realizes that being bitchy is not the same as acting aloof and doesn't make guys attracted to you?
 
GAF Im fucking suffering from One-itis

Its a fucking long story, but men, I took my chance and failed. Now i dont want anyone else, eventhough she is with other man

Am i crazy?? Its for real, i literally have no interest in anyone else
 
GAF Im fucking suffering from One-itis

Its a fucking long story, but men, I took my chance and failed. Now i dont want anyone else, eventhough she is with other man

Am i crazy?? Its for real, i literally have no interest in anyone else

Cut contact. Delete/block etc etc.

You need time.
 
GAF Im fucking suffering from One-itis

Its a fucking long story, but men, I took my chance and failed. Now i dont want anyone else, eventhough she is with other man

Am i crazy?? Its for real, i literally have no interest in anyone else

Nah not crazy man. It happens. You just need to give it space and time. Soon enough it'll pass and you'll get oneitis with someone with whom it's reciprocated.
 
GAF Im fucking suffering from One-itis

Its a fucking long story, but men, I took my chance and failed. Now i dont want anyone else, eventhough she is with other man

Am i crazy?? Its for real, i literally have no interest in anyone else

You're not crazy, you just got hit by a crush that didn't work out. It happens.

I have met "the one" three to eight times in my life so far, depending how you want to count.

I think you might as well let yourself feel sad for a little while. Let yourself detox from the crush. It'll help if you think about her as little as possible for the next few weeks (or months, honestly.)
 
I met my ex at the club two saturdays ago. Friendly but pointless cold talk conversation. The wounds opened a bit, seeing her with a big hunk of a guy didn't help, but I got over it in a day or so. Then she writes me on Facebook on Friday saying it felt good to see me and hoped I had a good time last time. At least this time the wounds stayed closed, we actually had a pretty relaxed and dare I say it, a positive and entertaining conversation :O A bit strange though, she asked the exact same questions from last time, to which I responded exactly the same. Obviously cold talk before whatever else was coming. But nothing came. She never asked about my love life etc so I don't think she was prying and she has never been the type to look for validation and such. We talked for a day. But as soon as I suggested meeting up to talk over some food, she vanished without a word :lol Not that I'm super interested or anything, it was more of a test to see her reaction, really. Kinda weird though, right? She used to disappear like that when she didn't know how to respond. But I'm not gonna pry or reach out, seems pointless after an entire summer of chasing, right?
 
I met my ex at the club two saturdays ago. Friendly but pointless cold talk conversation. The wounds opened a bit, seeing her with a big hunk of a guy didn't help, but I got over it in a day or so. Then she writes me on Facebook on Friday saying it felt good to see me and hoped I had a good time last time. At least this time the wounds stayed closed, we actually had a pretty relaxed and dare I say it, a positive and entertaining conversation :O A bit strange though, she asked the exact same questions from last time, to which I responded exactly the same. Obviously cold talk before whatever else was coming. But nothing came. She never asked about my love life etc so I don't think she was prying and she has never been the type to look for validation and such. We talked for a day. But as soon as I suggested meeting up to talk over some food, she vanished without a word :lol Not that I'm super interested or anything, it was more of a test to see her reaction, really. Kinda weird though, right? She used to disappear like that when she didn't know how to respond. But I'm not gonna pry or reach out, seems pointless after an entire summer of chasing, right?


Exactly. If she has another guy that she's seeing, it isn't worth your time or aggravation. Your time is a gift (I'm saying this based on the fact that you seem like a jolly, funny, free-wheeling dude). Don't give to people who don't respect it or deserve it. It's simply their loss. The best part about the world is that there are 6.3 billion people in it and over half of them are women. The chances of finding someone you mesh with again are astronomically high.

Edit: It's kind of crazy how much this girl is pursuing me after I told her I didn't want to settle for platonicism. She apparently heard that I asked a friend of hers how she was taking things since she seemed super depressed every time I saw her this weekend, so she reached out over facebook to ask me if I'm doing alright. I replied that I was fine and that I was just curious because she seemed super sad. She replied that it was because she had finals stuff going on. Right. I wished her a happy break and she is now trying to drag out the conversation by asking me questions. It's crazy how much success you get when you're able to successfully detatch.
 
Why not go for someone you are attracted to?
I promise you I do. I am attracted to this girls personality and ass, nothing else. She also has connections to my favorite NFL team. So there's that.

anyways Saturday my boy and I are supposed to meet up with a couple girls I am physically attracted to haha. They're actually pretty cool too.
Lol, if he had that sorta confidence then he wouldn't be talking in Dating-Age GAF.
lol
 
So in those two months you never asked her if she has a bf?
I would have imagined that question wasn't warranted when a person makes as much sexual innuendo and copping feels like she did.
How much of her alcohol did you pay for?
Very little, we went dutch for the most part so it wasn't like I got taken advantage of. I'm just frustrated at the turn of events, I suppose. But yes, dodged a bullet indeed.
 
I would have imagined that question wasn't warranted when a person makes as much sexual innuendo and copping feels like she did[./QUOTE]

Something that I've found to work is to sneak in a "Do you/did you go there with your bf?" or something similar when you ask about a place/activity. Just to be sure.
 
I would have imagined that question wasn't warranted when a person makes as much sexual innuendo and copping feels like she did.

Something that I've found to work is to sneak in a "Do you/did you go there with your bf?" or something similar when you ask about a place/activity. Just to be sure.

Damn. Double post.
 
Exactly. If she has another guy that she's seeing, it isn't worth your time or aggravation. Your time is a gift (I'm saying this based on the fact that you seem like a jolly, funny, free-wheeling dude). Don't give to people who don't respect it or deserve it. It's simply their loss. The best part about the world is that there are 6.3 billion people in it and over half of them are women. The chances of finding someone you mesh with again are astronomically high.

Edit: It's kind of crazy how much this girl is pursuing me after I told her I didn't want to settle for platonicism. She apparently heard that I asked a friend of hers how she was taking things since she seemed super depressed every time I saw her this weekend, so she reached out over facebook to ask me if I'm doing alright. I replied that I was fine and that I was just curious because she seemed super sad. She replied that it was because she had finals stuff going on. Right. I wished her a happy break and she is now trying to drag out the conversation by asking me questions. It's crazy how much success you get when you're able to successfully detatch.
She had someone new in one form or another in less than 2 weeks after I disappeared earlier this year. But I think he turned down her request for a relationship and just wanted to bang her I guess so she was talking an awful lot to me in the meantime. I have no idea what her relationship status is like now. I'm not gonna ask, I just assumed, and said as much, that she wants to get to know me again and we could get together and talk irl instead of over facebook. Judging from her past behavior with going silent, the guy is still there in some form and/or she is still adamant about not getting hurt again. But I will not push, like you said there are billions of women out there, so if she wants to talk or do something, it's up to her, I've done my fair share of fighting for us and she never ever reciprocated so I'm done with that for the foreseeable future :) Thanks for the kind words, that's nice of you :D I'm not perfect in any way, but I try hard to see life as something positive and time is indeed a gift in many ways. Good luck with the girl, seems like it's going pretty well at the time being. Detachment is such a wonderful thing, isn't it? :)
 
Loan her money if she's broke and struggling, don't give her a gift. If it was your best buddy, would you give him a gift or help him pay off a bill or two instead?

She wouldn't let me though. I can't just say "Give me your bills". And she IS my best friend. It ended on painful terms but not bad terms. We've never had a single fight. I dunno, I'll see how I feel closer to Xmas. I won't spend a ton. I'm thinking a $100 Amazon voucher or something, not something huge.
 
She wouldn't let me though. I can't just say "Give me your bills". And she IS my best friend. It ended on painful terms but not bad terms. We've never had a single fight. I dunno, I'll see how I feel closer to Xmas. I won't spend a ton. I'm thinking a $100 Amazon voucher or something, not something huge.
If you're just being friendly and helping out a friend in need, who cares if it's your ex? It doesn't sound like you have a hidden agenda behind your gift so why not go for it? IF you have the money to spare, at least.

Give to give, people. It doesn't matter who it's for!
 
Huh?

I'd give them a gift. Loaning them money is expecting something back, can lead to problems down the road, and can be seen as insulting to some people (if they haven't asked for it).

You've paid your friends bills?

She wouldn't let me though. I can't just say "Give me your bills". And she IS my best friend. It ended on painful terms but not bad terms. We've never had a single fight. I dunno, I'll see how I feel closer to Xmas. I won't spend a ton. I'm thinking a $100 Amazon voucher or something, not something huge.

My point is you need to make sure you're separating her into the "friend" category. She can't in any way, shape, or form be more than that when you either give her a gift or loan her money. Just make sure whatever you do for her you'd do for your best non-ex-gf, unless of course you want her to be your gf again and you're trying to get back in there.

And yes, I have helped my friends pay their bills when they were struggling. I didn't expect to see the money back, but in some cases they've paid me back when they've had the means to. In other cases they haven't and that's totally fine, I helped them out because that's what friends do. At some point in the future maybe they will return the favor when I'm in need. I don't think I'd ever give one of my best friends a gift card just because he's broke, I'd help him with something that is stressing him out because he's broke. Giving him a gift card when he's struggling with money would seem ....awkward..... but maybe that's just me
 
GAF I need some help. There is a girl in my office who I like and I feel she also likes me. There are some hints. I hope I am not projecting my wishes in observing her behavior, but I genuinely feel there is some spark. She laughs even at my shitty jokes, have caught her catching glances at me a few times etc. The usual signs.
But I dont know how to take it further and escalate things. Any suggestions?
 
GAF I need some help. There is a girl in my office who I like and I feel she also likes me. There are some hints. I hope I am not projecting my wishes in observing her behavior, but I genuinely feel there is some spark. She laughs even at my shitty jokes, have caught her catching glances at me a few times etc. The usual signs.
But I dont know how to take it further and escalate things. Any suggestions?

Ask her out?
 
My point is you need to make sure you're separating her into the "friend" category. She can't in any way, shape, or form be more than that when you either give her a gift or loan her money. Just make sure whatever you do for her you'd do for your best non-ex-gf, unless of course you want her to be your gf again and you're trying to get back in there.

Okay, gotcha. I read that all wrong and thought you were saying you don't buy gifts for friends (so you shouldn't for her), and paying one of her bills was a better alternative. Or something. Thought it was weird, but I've read crazier stuff.

I'm just gonna incorporate that question into my new approach strategy. :P

Dear God that was creepy. That first one was smooth, but it just went downhill from there.
 
Why are women reading my messages on okcupid, and then not even looking at my profile? And my messages aren't just 'How you?' or 'Shit, you're hot'. I show interest in what they've written on their profiles and maybe ask one question. And no, I don't ramble on or write an essay.

It's frustrating because I seem to be getting nowhere.
 
It seems to me like a lot of guys in this thread are implicitly asking "what is the magic risk-eliminating step between hitting it off with someone and asking them out?" But as far as I know, there isn't one. Just ask them out.

Exactly. But at some point you have to man-up and ask. No matter what a lot of women say about being treated equal to men and so on, most of them still want us to be the ones to ask them out.
 
Why are women reading my messages on okcupid, and then not even looking at my profile? And my messages aren't just 'How you?' or 'Shit, you're hot'. I show interest in what they've written on their profiles and maybe ask one question. And no, I don't ramble on or write an essay.

It's frustrating because I seem to be getting nowhere.

What do you write?

Post one. I can tell you, at least for me, what I found to be "yes", "no", "maybe reply" or "Jesus god delete delete" messages.
 
Well, people said that my interest in movies would never get me laid. And it hasn't yet of course but owning the fact that I've seen 1140 movies in my life in an opening message to a girl on a dating site actually made her respond (common interest opener) :lol I remembered I had an account on a small local site that I've forgotten to remove so I decided to check it out and write to a couple of women. And I even got one to open me for the first time ever. Not my type but I'm not one to ignore messages and she has a cool job I want to hear more about :)
 
What do you write?

Post one. I can tell you, at least for me, what I found to be "yes", "no", "maybe reply" or "Jesus god delete delete" messages.

Here's three I sent to separate women.

I've always wondered what people working in the science field do. I sometimes wish I had a job in this area of work, because it just seems so interesting.

What sort of machines do you work with?

She said she 'tinkers' with 'all sorts of cool' machines in her job. Figured I'd ask about them.

I am always trying to figure out the meaning in surreal paintings!

Are you hoping to turn your hobby into a career someday? I am going to try and enter one of mine into a book later this year - see if I can get it in. They accept all sorts of entries (digital, oils, acrylics, etc.).

This was my second message (she replied to my first message), but didn't get a response to this one.

I tried to be fun in this message:

You're a cheese fan. I prefer it crispy on the likes of pizza - not all stretchy and soft. But still, I do like cheese!

She mentioned liking cheese several times in her profile, saying you'd have to like cheese to get on with her. Figured I'd play on that. Guess it went terribly wrong.

What sort of men do women want? Why is it so damned hard to get anyone's interest?
 
Here's three. Sent to three separate women.



She said she 'tinkers' with 'all sorts of cool' machines in her job. Figured I'd ask about them.



This was my second message (she replied to my first message), but didn't get a response to this one.

I tried to be fun in this message:



She mentioned liking cheese several times in her profile, saying you'd have to like cheese to get on with her. Figured I'd play on that. Guess it went terribly wrong.

Or they just don't feel like replying. I doubt they went EUGH and actively said "NO I WILL NOT REPLY TO HIM".

Most likely more like "Man, I got a few messages today...but I have to go to work. Meh."

It does happen. They don't look like bad messages. Could be even shorter though :p

Like...the painting thing, looking at surreal paintings or whatever, leave that out, that's something to discuss when you meet. Like a lot of these things, it's more interesting to talk about them when you meet. So you more want to give a quick message that opens to meeting them. Or at least, that's what I think.

Like, cheese-girl, "let's go and eat an assortment of cheese together and compare our findings".

I'm not witty. But I'd say you want to keep it really light until you meet, otherwise you'll be like "man I already talked about the cheese, what the hell else do we discuss?" or "jeez she already told me about her job...what now?"

Sorry, babbling. I closed my online-dating accounts, but that's just stuff I noticed while I was on them.

Good luck!
 
i have a date in an hour, should i attempt to bemuse her with my gaf post jokes

like, haha oh yes cops are evil

and my favorite

obama is a super god
 
Or they just don't feel like replying. I doubt they went EUGH and actively said "NO I WILL NOT REPLY TO HIM".

Most likely more like "Man, I got a few messages today...but I have to go to work. Meh."

It does happen. They don't look like bad messages. Could be even shorter though :p

Like...the painting thing, looking at surreal paintings or whatever, leave that out, that's something to discuss when you meet. Like a lot of these things, it's more interesting to talk about them when you meet. So you more want to give a quick message that opens to meeting them. Or at least, that's what I think.

Like, cheese-girl, "let's go and eat an assortment of cheese together and compare our findings".

I'm not witty. But I'd say you want to keep it really light until you meet, otherwise you'll be like "man I already talked about the cheese, what the hell else do we discuss?" or "jeez she already told me about her job...what now?"

Sorry, babbling. I closed my online-dating accounts, but that's just stuff I noticed while I was on them.

Good luck!

I mean, don't people message for weeks before they meet? I would have thought they'd go pretty in-depth with their messages over that time?

Thanks, though - I appreciate the input.
 
I mean, don't people message for weeks before they meet? I would have thought they'd go pretty in-depth with their messages over that time?

Thanks, though - I appreciate the input.
Messages should be of equal length, at least at the start. Long messages only really mean one thing. You have enough spare time on your hands to write them. On the other hand, it's also a good way to gauge your girl's interest in the current topic. If she all of a sudden starts writing longer responses compared to usually, you know you've caught her interest in some way. Same goes for both sexes.
 
(not really on topic) The evil fault-finder in me thinks that cheese response was kind analogous to saying to a Star Wars fan "I really love Ewoks too!" I could be wrong, I'm not much of a cheese fan myself, but I think people who talk about cheese a lot are people who eat cheese, not pizza. (I'm sure they eat pizza too, but when I say they eat cheese, I mean esp what I think of is people who just eat a variety of cheeses as a snack, maybe -- maybe ! -- with some crackers, probably with some wine.)

I don't get many replies either, so don't listen to me.
 
I mean, don't people message for weeks before they meet? I would have thought they'd go pretty in-depth with their messages over that time?

Thanks, though - I appreciate the input.

I'd say try and meet ASAP. Don't be weird about it, but try to meet and talk about the things you want to talk about in person. Talking about it online is just...you talk about it and then it's weird retreading over it in person. I dunno.

The one guy I had great rapport with, I started the convo because he said he loved Disneyland, I said "That's so refreshing that a guy loves Disneyland without humouring someone else".

He said "we should meet and talk about everything Disneyland related for as long as we can."

Other than that, we just exchanged a couple of pleasantries and numbers and a time and date.

And then we met and talked about everything (and disneyland) for about 9 hours.
 
So I invited the girl I sit next to in class to join me for lunch - just to the cafeteria on campus. Everyone I talked to couldn't believe I didn't buy her lunch.

Obviously, on Monday I have to try and rectify this situation. I guess I'm asking for advice on the best course of action.

I feel I should also mention this a literally the first time I've made the first move. All past relationships began with them initiating. It took a lot for me to even invite her to join me (is it necessary to make the distinction that I didn't ask, "will you have lunch with me?"). We had a basic lunch of sandwiches and talked a bit about Thanksgiving plans and family. I didn't get her number, but am planning this into Monday's apology / make-up lunch invitation (basically "I would really like to buy you lunch this time" after some form of apology) .
 
So I invited the girl I sit next to in class to join me for lunch - just to the cafeteria on campus. Everyone I talked to couldn't believe I didn't buy her lunch.

Obviously, on Monday I have to try and rectify this situation. I guess I'm asking for advice on the best course of action.

I feel I should also mention this a literally the first time I've made the first move. All past relationships began with them initiating. It took a lot for me to even invite her to join me (is it necessary to make the distinction that I didn't ask, "will you have lunch with me?"). We had a basic lunch of sandwiches and talked a bit about Thanksgiving plans and family. I didn't get her number, but am planning this into Monday's apology / make-up lunch invitation (basically "I would really like to buy you lunch this time" after some form of apology) .

I wouldn't worry about you not buying her lunch. If she likes you it shouldn't effect her opinion of you. Apologizing for not buying her lunch would just come off as creepy IMO. Just forget about it and move on to the next date.

And get her number ASAP man!!
 
Thanks, I was kind of surprised by the unanimous response to us buying our separate lunches. First "date" platonic, next show my interest, next - go for dinner date. That's basically my game plan. Yeah, I was mostly shocked she agreed to lunch so I flubbed of getting the digits, but in class she is usually amiable and tries to start conversation, so I'm confident the exchange will happen.
 
Meh, people get so hung up on this idea that the guy must pay for stuff or else it's catastrophic. If a girl loses all interest in you because you didn't pay for a basic lunch then you wouldn't want up in that any way.
 
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