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Super Smash Bros Wii U and 3DS Thread 3: Ridley's Believe It or Not!

Daisy has as strong of a relationship with Luigi as Waluigi has with Wario. It was entirely manufactured by the spinoff titles to give Luigi a female princess counterpart, when that has absolutely nothing to do with her original appearance (Luigi isn't even in Super Mario Land). I highly doubt Daisy will ever appear in a Luigi focused game--it's just as likely as Waluigi appearing.

Waluigi was almost certainly an Assist Trophy because he's more popular than most people give him credit for.

The best part about Luigi only having an informed relationship in the spinoffs is that he gets to be a flirt in the mainline games.

Someday you'll get Rosalina's attention, Weegee. Someday.
 
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Daisy has as strong of a relationship with Luigi as Waluigi has with Wario. It was entirely manufactured by the spinoff titles to give Luigi a female princess counterpart, when that has absolutely nothing to do with her original appearance (Luigi isn't even in Super Mario Land). I highly doubt Daisy will ever appear in a Luigi focused game--it's just as likely as Waluigi appearing.


Eh this is where I can argue that, because daisy could actually work in a main line game or a luigi game. Wario rides solo, and in his ware appearances even produced a replacement for waluigi in Jimmy T. Not saying they both aren't spin off characters, im just as far as incorporation goes, I could see daisy FAR be fore Dick Dastardly over there.

And as for you doubting, you know just as much as I do how how the presumably willy wonka-esque process of how stuff gets into Mario games . So its just as possible as impossible, it is an Uncertainty.Nintendo are mad scientists, and emphasis on mad. Quick to set the world of fire , but out of the loop when in comes to what people actually when they need to actually connect to what humans want. It seems I have wondered a bit off topic, sorry.

Waluigi was almost certainly an Assist Trophy because he's more popular than most people give him credit for.

I dunno, sakurai could have just thought waluigi would fit. And just went with it, not every inclusion is a sonic or a wolf situation, but again that is an uncertainty.


Anyways those were just my thoughts on waluigi, to quote a very talented lady who cannot pay her bills. "So don't get all offended, this is just my opinion,ain't notihng that I'm saying law"
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I think Queen Bee was included to give an option for a heavy weight female driver, and that's all there is to that

Actually this is exactly the reason why they included Queen Bee to MK7. After all, Rosalina has been the only female character in the heavyweight class.
 
Rosalina or Paper Mario are the only characters from Mario that should appear in SSB. No one else. But other characters like Takamaru, Lil Mac, Anthony Higgs and Ridley should join the roster first
 
Rosalina or Paper Mario are the only characters from Mario that should appear in SSB. No one else. But other characters like Takamaru, Lil Mac, Anthony Higgs and Ridley should join the roster first

You didn't even list Palutena in your example list. I am disappoint.
 
More Mario and a Peach clone? I'd rather take Goomba as a character.

Why do people keep deriving this from rosalina? I'm not saying you are serious right now, my sarcasm meter is out of wack. But this seems to be a sentiment i keep hearing. She is a god, why the hell would someone limit her moveset like that. That is one of the most unimaginative things I ever heard. That is like saying the next FE character could only work as a marth, ike, or link clone because they have a sword and some armor.
 
Why do people keep deriving this from rosalina? I'm not saying you are serious right now, my sarcasm meter is out of wack. But this seems to be a sentiment i keep hearing. She is a god, why the hell would someone limit her moveset like that. That is one of the most unimaginative things I ever heard. That is like saying the next FE character could only work as a marth, ike, or link clone because they have a sword and some armor.

I don't want another character that looks like a princess. Variety is better.
 
This needed to be said. Waluigi and Daisy exist to fill in spots in spinoffs. Neither get any recognition in the main series (Heck, Waluigi cant even make it into Wario Land / Ware) which is telling of how the rest of Nintendo views of their importance to the Mario IP. It honestly baffles me that Waluigi was even given an assist trophy in the first place.

He seemed to be basically representing the Mario Sports spin offs, specifically Tennis, where he debuted (he was even holding a racket). That could be a viable way to include him. He isn't really a Wario character, or a character from Mario platformers, but basically an original creator of the Mario sports spin offs. He could have a moveset referencing those various games and activities, something that would seem odd if done with Mario or some other character that actually appears in relevant games.
 
Toad would be pichus size, well almost and he'd be quick as hell and his smash would be giga toad and if you get hit you die instantly
only way to survive is grabbing the edge
 
Why do people keep deriving this from rosalina? I'm not saying you are serious right now, my sarcasm meter is out of wack. But this seems to be a sentiment i keep hearing. She is a god, why the hell would someone limit her moveset like that. That is one of the most unimaginative things I ever heard. That is like saying the next FE character could only work as a marth, ike, or link clone because they have a sword and some armor.

Clone as in same looks I would assume and If rosa were to be mirrored down the middle she looks almost exactly like peach lol.

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Why do people keep deriving this from rosalina? I'm not saying you are serious right now, my sarcasm meter is out of wack. But this seems to be a sentiment i keep hearing. She is a god, why the hell would someone limit her moveset like that. That is one of the most unimaginative things I ever heard. That is like saying the next FE character could only work as a marth, ike, or link clone because they have a sword and some armor.

I'm talking about their appearance.

1. They both have blonde hair
2. They both wear the same tiara
3. They both have blue eyes
4. They both wear long dresses
5. They have the same skin color
6. They both have a chest crystal thing

She's essentially Space Peach.
 
I'm talking about their appearance.

1. They both have blonde hair
2. They both wear the same tiara
3. They both have blue eyes
4. They both wear long dresses
5. They have the same skin color
6. They both have a chest crystal thing

She's essentially Space Peach.
And yet they're day and night when it comes to their appearance, design and personality.
 
I'm talking about their appearance.

1. They both have blonde hair
2. They both wear the same tiara
3. They both have blue eyes
4. They both wear long dresses
5. They have the same skin color
6. They both have a chest crystal thing

She's essentially Space Peach.

One could make the same case about Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent, its a silly one. Even so, more variety could be put into human mario designs I suppouse.

Clone as in same looks I would assume and If rosa were to be mirrored down the middle she looks almost exactly like peach lol.

Well supposedly the mario girls have different features, daisy in particular. Being a bit stocky apparently. But yes they do look similar that I cannot deny. However as far as being a character goes, I like rosalina far more than peach. I also have a soft spot for cosmic powersets ( one of teh reasons I love shadow the hedgehog so much.), also I heard that the reason she so slow in the new Mario game is because she is the density of a planet or a star, and that is also why she is a large character in mario kart. But its just a rumor.


I don't want another character that looks like a princess. Variety is better.

As apposed to what though? Another plumber, another knight, another kid, another neon colored anthropomorphic possible talking animal possibly from space? Man I would be pleased having another woman a a game, a powerful woman galactus level god. What she look like doesn't matter in this instance, its what she is about that is. And her character design is still distinct enough to differentiate her self from peach.

I would like to see a game with just rosalina in it, or just like marvel level super gods. There daily life has to be interesting.
 
And yet they're day and night when it comes to their appearance, design and personality.
So is Blood Falcon compared to Captain Falcon (and Wario to Mario before Brawl) and yet both were just costumes.

Don't be surprised if Rosalina ends up with a similar treatment.
 
So is Blood Falcon compared to Captain Falcon (and Wario to Mario before Brawl) and yet both were just costumes.

Don't be surprised if Rosalina ends up with a similar treatment.

To be fair though.

F-zero has never really been that popular. And for wario , sakurai said that wario ware version is the one that stood out to him.

And rosalina is
an unlockable character in a mario game
, a treat peach never got. Ever. She just kind of had to be bait, clearly someone likes her in nintendo and in the Mario fanbase. I mean when the last time waluigi or Daisy got a in as an unlockable character in a ... oh wait.

I wouldn't be surprised if it was her, King Boo, or bowser jr in the running for the next mario rep.
 
And rosalina is
an unlockable character in a mario game,
a treat peach never got. Ever. She just kind of had to be bait, clearly someone likes her in nintendo and in the Mario fanbase. I mean when the last time waluigi or Daisy got a in as an unlockable character in a ... oh wait.
I assumed we were talking about Mario Kart until that last bit. Then I realise you were just being a massive spoilerer.
 

Who? Is exactly right, comparing a character that set is fanbases world on fire, and got special privileges that OG's in the franchise never got. To some bad guy in a c-list franchise is not the most apt comparison.

I assumed we were talking about Mario Kart until that last bit. Then I realise you were just being a massive spoilerer.

While I think it isn't much of a spoiler, because nintendo made a damn video about it. And plastered everywhere. I will go back and spoil my stuff, because that seems like a jerk move, sorry about that.
 
Nintendo has hundreds if not thousands of unique characters that could tapped before going with another Princess Toadstool or Mario clone.



Granted those characters might not be popular with fan fiction writers or people who complain about Sonic's eye colour.
 
One could make the same case about Bruce Wayne and Clark Kent, its a silly one.

Woah, I had no idea they were in the roster. I guess Batman is really in Smash after all!


The only thing silly here is your comparison... like I would explain it but do I really have to?
 
The Rosalina fanboys are a resilient bunch, that's for sure. There's a zero percent chance she'll take priority over characters like Bowser Jr. and Waluigi, but I don't expect any Mario newcomers.
 
Woah, I had no idea they were in the roster. I guess Batman is really in Smash after all!


That comparison makes no sense whatsoever.

No they aren't, were are talking character design.

And Bruce Wane and Clark Kent are both Appear to be white males with black hair and blue eyes. The look alike, they share some features, however they aren't the same person. And that was point.

To be quite honest, I have no idea what you are getting at.

Nintendo has hundreds if not thousands of unique characters that could tapped before going with another Princess Toadstool or Mario clone.



Granted those characters might not be popular with fan fiction writers or people who complain about Sonic's eye colour.

You are on the opposent end of the extreme of those people who complained about the marvel side of the roster when they only knew of the capcom side. You too deep in the trenches. Rosalina and Peach may look like , but clones? Nah. Along with that she, for lack of a better term, Shadow the hedgehog-ed the rest of the mario cast. She blew up, got them special privileges in Nintendo's most world renown franchise. Sure they could tapping into other characters. But Rosalina got a lot of rank over the wrecking crew guys.

The Rosalina fanboys are a resilient bunch, that's for sure. There's a zero percent chance she'll take priority over characters like Bowser Jr. and Waluigi, but I don't expect any Mario newcomers.

Stahp.
 
I think Paper Mario has a genuine shot but he would probably have his own series icon.

I would like Waluigi with sports/party stuff but highly doubt he will actually happen.
 
The Rosalina fanboys are a resilient bunch, that's for sure. There's a zero percent chance she'll take priority over characters like Bowser Jr. and Waluigi, but I don't expect any Mario newcomers.
Why do your posts have to be so aggressive? Is it the lack of Mega Jynx or something else bothering you?
 
No they aren't, were are talking character design.

And Bruce Wane and Clark Kent are both Appear to be white males with black hair and blue eyes. The look alike, they share some features, however they aren't the same person. And that was point.

The argument is about Peach and Rosalina being too visually indistinct in a fast pace fighting game like Smash Bros.

Your comparison makes no sense because if Bruce and Clark were to be in a fighting game together, they wouldn't be freaking Bruce and Clark.

They would be Batman and Superman, which are visually distinct. Do you NOT see the issue with your comparison? It DOESN'T work. Seriously, it's bottom of the barrel stuff. I can't believe I had to fucking explain that. Holy shit.

To be quite honest, I have no idea what you are getting at.
I can honestly say the same to 99% of your arguments here.
 
Condemning Rosalina on her similar appearance alone is a bad reason. Might as well take out Luigi or Lucas with a reason like that.

Honestly, I think she'd be the best choice for a Mario newcomer given her recent playable appearances, popularity, and significance in the galaxy games. Also more female characters is a good thing as long as they're not picked on their gender alone.

Waluigi is still my most requested character though, but we all know he ain't coming.
 
Day and night? Are you serious?

Yep! D-didn't you watch her charming backstory in Super Mario Galaxy? #feels

Why do your posts have to be so aggressive? Is it the lack of Mega Jynx or something else bothering you?

Because stupidity bothers me. If they start adding insignificant characters like Rosalina over the likes of Little Mac, Ridley, and Mike Jones, then it's time to retire the series.
 
Because stupidity bothers me. If they start adding insignificant characters like Rosalina over the likes of Little Mac, Ridley, and Mike Jones, then it's time to retire the series.
OK? That doesn't justify the reason to be rude.

You can just stop playing/being interested in the series if it bothers you that much that characters you don't care for get in. There is no either or situation for characters, it's either the character is chosen to be put in, or they aren't.

Also, who is Mike Jones? Is he some obscure character in a game?
 
The argument is about Peach and Rosalina being too visually indistinct in a fast pace fighting game like Smash Bros.

Which I argue is silly, also Ryu Ken Akuma, ect. There was also argument about Rosa being a peach clone, design wise, which I was arguing. Outside of the realm of smash bros. and general. This why paying attention key.


Your comparison makes no sense because if Bruce and Clark were to be in a fighting game together, they wouldn't be freaking Bruce and Clark.
No I was comparing them as characters themselves rather than there personas.
They would be Batman and Superman, which are visually distinct. Do you NOT see the issue with your comparison?
No because I actually read comic books and know that they aren't super man and batman all the time and was comparing Clark Kent and Bruce wayne rather than batman and superman. Also I am actually paying attention to the conversation, so there is that.
It DOESN'T work. Seriously, it's bottom of the barrel stuff. I can't believe I had to fucking explain that. Holy shit.
Swearing and not paying attention is a failure of the game design.
I can honestly say the same to 99% of your arguments here.
Yes, have fun with that. 1 person on the internet
 
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